Marist Poll: Harris leads Trump by 5 points
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POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y. (NEWS10) — According to the latest national Marist Poll, Vice President Kamala Harris is leading Former President Donald Trump by five points among likely voters. This poll includes undecided voters who are leaning toward certain candidates.
The poll asked likely voters who they are supporting or leaning toward in the presidential election. 52% of voters said they support the Harris campaign while 47% said Trump and 1% said another party's candidate.
The Marist Poll says that earlier this month the number of points separating the candidates was only two. 50% had said they would be supporting Harris while 48% said Trump.
Among registered voters, the contest ran a bit tighter. 51% said they would vote for Harris while 48% said Trump, separating them only by three points. The candidates were also separated by three points earlier in October with Harris having 50% of registered voters support and Trump with 47%.
The Marist Poll also surveyed Independents who are likely to vote, and they favored Trump by 10 points. 54% said they would vote for Trump while 44% said Harris.
Among the men and women who were polled, Trump leads Harris with the men while it is the opposite for women. 53% of men said they would vote for Trump and 47% said Harris. 57% of women said they'd vote for Harris and 42% said Trump.
When it comes to the different generations, Harris has a majority of support from Gen Z, Millenials, Baby Boomers, and the Silent-Greatest Generations. Gen X is divided with 51% support for Harris and 48% for Trump.
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Still rather close, with Independents favoring Trump by 10 points in this poll.
It's astonishing that Trump, a coup-attempting tyrant and traitor to the republic has any support among Americans at all. What a failure of the justice system and the media.
it's amazing the lengths that some anti-democratic unamerican trump/maga scum will go to just to own the libs ...
It truly is.
Its too late for them to admit they were wrong. They'd just as soon drag the country down.
When did he do that and what were the charges against him for treason?....yes you have to commit treason to be a traitor.
we are back to this nonsense?
do you believe in dictionary definitions?
If you want to go back to it then that is OK with me. I proved you wrong before...and am going to do it again...Note number 2..
traitor
noun
there are thousands of words that have multiple definitions
your objection to definition number one in your own example is mind boggling
I love it you must split hairs over Trump being a traitor or not...
Number one is your opinion of what you think Trump did.
Number two is showing leftists that you have to commit treason to be a traitor, something many here have tried to argue, failingly, against.
No hairs split. The fact that you think Trump has committed treason is shot down simply by a Mirriam Webster definition.
The fact that no one has charged Trump with treason shows that even the most ethically corrupt leftist DA knows that there is nothing there to charge.
As has been stated many times before the colloquial use of traitor is nothing more than an opinion and doesn't mean shit in the real world. It is just people playing word games so they can call him a traitor and hope the small minded buy into it.
One is opinion, one is legal. Far from splitting hairs.
You can't really be this dumb, can you? Is saying "note number 2" supposed to be some kind of magic trick that makes number 1 disappear? See that thing about being false to an obligation or duty? Like to the Constitution, which expressly instructs the president to see that the laws are faithfully executed? Trying to TAKE power after losing an election was an attack on the Constitution and the republic itself, making him a tyrant and a traitor TO the republic.
The easiest way, but not the only way to prove Trump is a traitor is his deliberate inaction while the J6 riot was taking place.
This not an opinion or speculation, it is historical fact. He never made a phone call or tried to facilitate more law enforcement or the National Guard to stop the riot once it had started. That is dereliction of duty and betrayal of his oath of office.
Trump didnt want to stop the riot, he wanted it to succeed.
Wrongo! It actually is the definition of splitting hairs!
How are MAGA going to define it when Trump is convicted of seditious conspiracy against the United States of America?
After all, there is no denying it. We saw it with our own eyes!
Your opinion.
A bunch of idiots that broke windows does not make an insurrection
I guess we will have to see if someone charges him with it, huh?
Thank you for your opinion but it was a fail.
Only to a delusional mind.
I'm sorry about your condition.
Good lord.
Here. Preceding events are listed as well...
Timeline of the January 6 United States Capitol attack
Or, if you want the long version...
Final Report of the Select Committee
You're certainly sorry.
I'm not sure that's the guy responsible for the mass amnesia effecting Trump supporters when it comes to January 6th as they are so deep in denial, they're likely on a first name basis with the 'other' Lord. Apparently, they love being 'rebels' so much they're willing to sell out their country and sign away their souls to the devil as long as it pisses off the liberals and progressives.
You mean the highly partisan J6 committee that presented only items that were negative to Trump and nothing that would show a different side, the same J6 committee that destroyed everything they had when Republicans came back into power.
The same J6 committee that their stated mission was to find solutions that would not allow that day to happen again, but never touched on that?
It is amazing that leftists keep complaining that Trump resorts to going back to 2020 all the time and that he should move forward, but half the delusional population keeps bringing up a riot that lasted a few hours that happened almost 4 years ago.
The hypocrisy is astounding....but expected.
That's why I sent my condolences to you.,
Let me know if there’s any change in his condition (youtube.com)
But seriously, those who refuse to accept that January 6th was a violent attempt to stop the certification of a free and fair election and threatened what every REAL American holds dear, aka the constitution, and our long history of peaceful transfers of power, is a fucking traitor and not worthy of the protections the constitution provides them.
Nope. What every American who loves the constitution and is actually HONEST with themselves saw that day, was clearly an attempted insurrection. Those who wish to continue sucking dirty Donalds ball sweat are welcome to gargle his crotch drippings and pretend that what we all saw didn't happen, but those of us with more than half a brain know what we saw regardless of the January 6th committee hearing. All the hearing did was fill in a couple blanks by letting us know what some of those around Trump were doing at the time, and it clearly showed they were as pissed off as every other real American was.
“In my mind this whole time I felt this moral struggle,” “It feels ridiculous, because in my heart I knew where my loyalties lied, and my loyalties lied with the truth. And I never wanted to diverge from that. You know, I never wanted or thought that I would be the witness that I have become, because I thought that more people would be willing to speak out too.” - former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson
Maybe that was the idea of some that were there but to blame Trump is delusional at best.
Obviously, "peacefully and patriotically" is now insurrection talk.
The left needs new talking points.
The ones you use are worn.
Trump has had almost 4 years to tell his side of the story. All he says is how big his crowd was and they all love him and he told them to be "peaceful". All that is a tiny fraction of the story.
He has a chance to answer everyones questions and doesnt even try. Why? Because he knows he's guilty.
Your opinion.
Instead of calling authorities to try and put the riot down, Trump spent those hours calling congresspeople asking to go along with "the plan".
Do you need a ton of bricks to fall before you see what was going on ?
Something Pelosi should have prepared for in the beginning.
Where is your poutrage about her?
From the Merriam-Webster sight:
Nice cut and paste to something that no one cares about
My original post, with definition, stands.
Try again
They found the who, the why, and the how. Some people are too deluded to admit it.
Nevertheless, your candidate Donald Trump is facing serious and incredibly well evidenced charges of leading a criminal seditious conspiracy against the United States of America!
How do you fluff that off? We all saw it play out live on TV...
It is absurd to keep repeating the very few times Trump used proper language while ignoring the constant incendiary rhetoric that he used even months before the election.
Do you think his supporters ignore all the "fight like hell" crap drilled into their minds for months prior to the election???
This:
... does not erase this:
This was said right before the insurrection and in the context of Trump claiming that the US presidential election was rigged, that he actually won, and that his supporters were all disenfranchised.
Can you not read and understand the english language?
Your original post states:
...that both definitions must be held, not just one or the other. This whole long trolling diatribe has been one comment after another of you saying "Nuh-uh" to factual evidence being presented.
I am not going to waste my time proving you wrong over and over again because you are like a little clockwork toy: Amusing to watch for the first few seconds, but one grows tired of repetitive whirring and noise.
So go ahead and post away.
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You haven't done it yet, so.....
Yes, because Trump was the first politician to say "fight like hell"
Wait....these guys have been politicians long before Trump came on the political scene.
Old tweets show Raskin, Biden saying 'fight like hell' (nypost.com)
Dems Lose Their Minds Over Trump Saying 'Fight Like Hell,' But Here Are All the Times They've Said It (westernjournal.com)
What violence were they trying to gin up?
Try again.,
And you of course ignore what I wrote.
Context matters. Trump had spent months claiming that the election was rigged. He then spoke of "fighting like hell" in response to his lie that the US presidential election was rigged, that he actually won, and that his supporters were all disenfranchised.
Trump supporters seem to employ an extreme level of confirmation bias (what one would observe in a cult). Ignoring the bad and only accepting the little good. It is pathetic.
Personally, I will go with legal proceedings in a court of law with a judge and jury deciding to convict and sentence on a charge of treason if found guilty. Till then he is presumed innocent until proven guilty whether you like it or not. Same goes for the race accusations.
No jury is required to form a well-founded conclusion that Trump is a traitor. Or form a conclusion that he is a pathological liar, narcissist, vindictive scoundrel who cares only about himself, on the lunatic fringe, etc.
Jury trials in criminal cases are required to determine guilt (or lack of guilt) regarding the breaking of law. Human beings routinely make judgment calls on matters in life without waiting for each issue to be formulated into a case and adjudicated.
Trump is a traitor because he is the only PotUS in our history who used fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement in an attempt to bypass the CotUS and stop the peaceful transfer of power ... thus disenfranchising the electorate. He was supposed to be the chief protector of the CotUS yet he tossed it under the bus.
That was awesome Thomas. Absolutely excellent and to the point and the truth.
Absolutely fucking awesome.
Excellent and to coin a phrase - 'the court of public opinion' rules in your favor.
I respectfully disagree with your assesment.
Nobody needs a jury trial to make an assessment. In Trump's case there is an abundance of evidence (fact, really) that Trump is the only PotUS in our history who used fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement in an attempt to bypass the CotUS and stop the peaceful transfer of power ... thus disenfranchising the electorate. He was supposed to be the chief protector of the CotUS yet he tossed it under the bus.
The word 'traitor' appropriately describes Trump based on his actions.
If that is the definition you are going with then it can be argued that Harris is a traitor to the American people. She was right there lying to the American people that Joe was mentally capable to be president. She was right there trying to install a puppet regime since Joe would be nothing but a puppet while others ran the country.
Wrongo. Splitting hairs: as in complaining. to make often peevish criticisms or objections about matters that are minor, unimportant, or irrelevant
The difference between an opinion that someone is a traitor and someone that has been found guilty of being a traitor is anything but irrelevant, minor or unimportant.
More like highly patriotic. Out of nine members there were two Republicans, including ultra-conservative Liz Cheney as vice chair. The first attempt to form a Congressional commission with equal numbers of Ds and Rs passed the House but was blocked by Senate Republicans. Maybe you should whine about that.
Also, the vast majority of witnesses (and by far the most damning) were Republicans and Trump Administration officials, not Democrats.
What different side? Trump lost a lawful election and then unlawfully decided to try and take power anyway, breaking his oath and betraying the Constitution and the country in the process. What 'different side' are you referring to? Are you suggesting he didn't do that?
Again, the vast majority of witnesses were Republicans and Trump Administration officials, not Democrats.
The Select Committee's material is preserved and available to the public here.
Pathetic complaint. Publicly illustrating the chain of events and steps Trump and his fellow traitors took in their little coup attempt – from election night through Jan 6 – makes people aware of them. That's valuable for future deterrence. They also recommended criminal charges. Again, valuable for deterrence.
Let me ask you something, bugsy: Did Trump try to subvert the election to stay in power or not?
We are just not going to agree on this, so better just to let it go at that. You have your view and I have mine. A good day to you Sir.
Some of the reactions were pretty weird!
For example:
A Republican House member just described January 6 as a ‘normal tourist visit’
The Republican Party’s attempts to rewrite the history of the January 6 riot at the US Capitol took another dramatic step forward at a Capitol Hill hearing Wednesday, when Georgia Rep. Andrew Clyde (R) suggested that the insurrection was far less serious than it’s been portrayed.
“Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures,” Clyde said. “You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.”
( READ IT ALL )
I've posted this before, but will again as its quite relevant. A quote from Albert Einstein:
I know of two things that are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity. And I'm not entirely sure about the former!
That's my perception as well.
Every day I take a quick look at the poll numbers--- the projected winner keeps changing, flipping back and forth between the two candidates.
I know it seems like a cliche, but IMO "Its still too early to tell"
Actually I like the idea that we have a free press. (Imagine if the all news we got was always endorsing the same candidate). Instead we have differwent media outlets presentig different content.
I put the fialure not with any system-- be it "the media" or "the justice system".
IMO the fault is with the people who consume the media output and are not particularly into "critical thinking!
Anyone familiar with the novel Animal Farm? The animals feel the system (Rule by humans) is unjust-- so they have a revolution that will fix the problems with the current system. Some small positive changes start to happen.
But towards the end... (spoiler alert!): The Pigs become more and more like the humans (and the system sucks!
Well, yeah. So do I.
Trump should be in prison right now, not running again. The years-long delay before the indictment, and the insane Supreme Court ruling on immunity were both failures of the justice system.
The media failed by not being strenuous enough about his coup attempt. Sure, there's been reporting about it, but it obviously wasn't not enough. People are concerned about the abortion stuff, his many false statements, Project 2025 and his all-around craziness, but not enough people are talking about what should be his single biggest disqualifier: The fact that he has proven himself to be a tyrant for trying to take power unconstitutionally. That should be at the top of everyone's list for why he's unfit. Tyrants are destroyers of democracy and rule-of-law republics. The number one rule for preserving a republic is don't give power to tyrants. Like oil and water, they don't mix. The fact that it isn't a regular topic of discussion shows how the media has failed.
Good for him, it is every Americans right to have their voice heard, and he voted for his candidate of choice, I'm glad he didn't vote third party or some asshole would probably accuse him of wasting his vote.
Well, at least he probably be accused of being a immigrant who eats peoples' pet cats and dogs!
(Although when you're dealing with some idiots, you never knew what weird nonsense they'll come up with!
)
Correction: that should read "probably can't be"
Doubtful.
One of his family members got to vote twice.
Can you not just be happy for America's Longest Living President casting his ballot for his party's nominee for President at 100 YO?
Though, it would be perfect if Kamala wins Georgia by one vote...
How could anyone be happy for him in that condition?
Apparently Carter wants to live long enough to vote on election day. Since he has the desire to live, why not be happy for him to live long enough to achieve his goal? Why not be happy that he might get what he wants?
If he has the will to go on and can still interact with friends and family and has a goal to live for (he does) all power to him...
Ronald Reagan didn't know who was President for ten years.
Though not a very good President I never wished him unwell!
“How could anyone be happy for him in that condition?”
How could anyone denigrate him in seeing him fulfill a final patriotic act?
I think that he was only president for eight years.
He left office in 1989 and died in 2004. He announced his Alzheimers in 1994.
he was in denial for a decade ...
Reagan was ex-President for fifteen years, the last ten of which he was practically catatonic. Though he sleeps a lot President Carter is lucid and still has his wits. In any case, nobody I was aware of wished him death those ten years...
He was just an old man, who forgot he was ever President!
Yes, so what?
Is that your medical opinion? How can you deny something you’re not aware of?
I think that Jimmie Carter is our best ex-president. I voted for him in 76. I don’t know what the point is about Raegan in a string about Carter.
No, you just tried and failed to find an angle to be contrary...
I was addressing Sean and you thought you had a gotcha.
Well, you really clarified your point, thanks.
humping liz taylor when she was 15 really fucked him up mentally, didn't it?
raygun is in the best place to do the most for his past supporters now ...
Well, there are the haters...and then there are people who'se tendency to be be very loving and accepting of others!
One of the world's most decent men. Awesome.
some asshole will probably call his vote illegal because he didnt do it in person or because his signature on the mail in ballot was illegible.
I was going to say that in Georgia it will now have to be "hand counted"-- but a judge just overturned that(1-/16):
Trump claims a shadow government is running the US
uh, no.
I have to wonder how many people at that townhall Q&A which turned into whatever the hell that was (just standing there listening to music and occasionally moving his hands and occasionally mouthing some lyrics) were wondering 'what the hell is going on here' and 'does that make sense'?
lol
They haven't got a CLUE.!
(Peoplle are saying the its Da Joos with a Space Laser in The Heavens!
They may not even know themselves. Does that make sense?
Nope!
Not in the least!!!
In fact-- it totally ridiculous.
(Sounds like the sort of deluded ca-ca that people like Trump or Vance would make up!)
Keep swallowing left wing kool aid...
Project 2025 Disavowed By Trump: 'I Have Nothing To Do With Them' (forbes.com)
that meme actually suggests Vance will stab Trump in the back and take power himself, BECAUSE Trump is in rapid decline.
Funny how no one on the left ever claimed Trump was on the decline until those on the right PROVED Biden was. When he got booted out by his own party, the left started screeching that Trump is in cognitive decline.
What this shows is many on the left try to claim of Trump what has already been proven about Biden.
“the left started screeching that Trump is in cognitive decline.”
Bottom line, bugsy…are you comfortable watching, listening, and in any way accepting of his recent behavior?
Bottom line???
No. He likes to repeat himself during his rallies but there is no decline. And if there is, you have to admit there is nowhere near what Biden has demonstrated the last couple of years.
If he's not in decline he's nuts. Take your pick.
And by what pandering measure should Trump be believed?
“…what Biden…”
What Biden has said or done is rather moot at this point. What trump continues to say or do or promises is at the crux of this election. His apologists are left with Biden, are left with election interference, are left with criminal investigations, are left with…nothing but their politically motivated excuses.
You have been making these claims for years but have never been able to prove any of them. Today will be no different.
“No. He likes to repeat himself during his rallies but there is no decline…”
So his repeated threats against all we should hold dear mean nothing? Consistency in his megalomania is not a positive.
Trump said "inrushess" in a speech last night when he was supposed to say "insurrectionists". If Biden said that it would be the lead story on Fox News for six hours.
And yet, here is his quote from that article:
“Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.” - Donald J Trump
So, if they were suggesting raping 6 year olds...
“Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.” - Donald J Trump
If they were suggesting overthrowing our government to install Donald Trump as permanent President...
“Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.” - Donald J Trump
That's closer to an endorsement than a repudiation of what Project 2025 is suggesting. To claim dirty Donald has "nothing to do with them" when they are some of his biggest supporters and he refuses to reject them is disingenuous at best but most likely just intentionally deceitful because Donald and his sycophants know they can't win unless they lie their asses off.
Doesn't mean he endorses him.
He is saying the Heritage Foundation has the right to try and push whatever agenda they want, just like left wing groups do.
The delusion of many on the left is getting stronger and stronger the closer we get to Jan 5.
What I am waiting for is what the left will do on their own J6 when they wake up and find Trump is their president again......on January 6th.
Probably nothing but "mostly peaceful" protests, huh?
You guys really are reaching,.
You will have your chance at the presidency in a little 4 years. If you put up someone worthwhile, maybe they will get elected.
Do you really believe Trump can win the Electoral College while losing the popular vote by ten million votes? Because, that is what it will be if Harris beats Trump by 5% on November 5th!
Given the fact that so many support Trump even now who knows? Not only is Trump a traitor, con-man, on and on, but if you just listen to what the guy says ... he is on the lunatic fringe. What the fuck has happened to our nation where so many would vote for such an abysmal character and arguably mentally sick and dangerously vindictive scoundrel when a normal, presidential, youthful, energetic, positive, patriotic team is available on the D side?
Because racism and sexism are immutable malignant prejudices?
It is waaaay more than that.
For some they have so commingled their faith with MAGA dogma that disillusionment with Trump would decimated their beings...
If they admit Trump is as bad as he is, then they are destroyed!
His supporters value the Fascism that they think is coming because they have delusions of grandeur of a place in his scheme of things. From the malcontented for many reasons to the religious and pious, by saying "I am here and I will help you," whether he will or not, they each have their own vision of what he says. Because he hardly ever makes it through a thought before he moves on to another, there is space in which each and every follower can create their own version Trumplandia.
Take the blue pill. They have. Don't worry. It will be better.
Bottom line is that no matter what Trump says about anything, the hard core liberal left will go out of their way to find some way to tear it apart and step on it. They far exceed anything the right may done to Biden.
Exactly
Are you kidding? Have you listened to Trump speak, Ed??
Good grief man, one need not be hard core left to see that Trump is entirely unfit to be PotUS ... that no patriot should support or defend this scoundrel.
This is where it started ...
Where have you ever heard of a PotUS speaking of using the military against fellow countrymen who are on the opposite side of his politics?
Or, MAGAs will excuse whatever untrue awful dangerous dumbass thing Trump says or does because he has falsely promises to stop brown people who have been going back and forth across that border forever? One issue trumps all!
That's ludicrous and not my opinion.
'I don't know why they are or what it is but I don't agree with all of what they're saying'
Some folks just know because they're immersed in the culture.....lol
So if Biden started to babble about sharks and batteries, you would think that was completely normal? Really?
And would Trump ever lie?
Oh course not- - if Trump says it it must be true!
(Many people are saying that Trump is A Divine Being -- A Heavenly Angel reincarnated to live and preach amongst us lower life forms that inhabit the planet Earth. So things like this are mere words of wisdom. See linked video illustrating what Heaven is actually like )-- word that are directly channeled from a higher power! )
Hashtags #Goth Hashtag #Heaven Hashtag #Reincarnation Hashtag #LeahMartin-Brown Hashtag #Trump
Ok, I'll take a guess.
Where?
IN EVERY CRUEL, TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP THAT EVER EXISTED!
PotUS = President of the United States
But, if we substitute 'a national leader' for 'PotUS' in my question then your answer is well founded.