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politics Oct. 23, 2024 All the Top Trump Officials Warning Against Voting for Him

  

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Via:  krishna  •  4 weeks ago  •  16 comments

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politics Oct. 23, 2024 All the Top Trump Officials Warning Against Voting for Him
Former members of Trump’s Cabinet as well as high-ranking military leaders who reported to him have issued stark warnings about the possibility of a second Trump term.

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Over the past few months, Donald Trump has racked up a number of prominent endorsements, including Tesla CEO Elon Musk and former campaign rival Robert F. Kennedy Jr. But the remaining weeks before Election Day have become defined by those whose support he lacks, namely several key members of his presidential administration. Former members of Trump’s Cabinet as well as high-ranking military leaders who reported to him have issued stark warnings about the possibility of a second Trump term, describing their former boss as “fascist” and “dangerous.” Here’s a look at the biggest names coming out against Trump as the election nears.

John Kelly


He is a retired four-star Marine Corps general who first served as the secretary of Homeland Security before he became White House chief of staff for nearly two years. The two’s relationship soured during Kelly’s brief stint, with  rumored reports  of Kelly privately trashing Trump, though he denied them at the time. Recently, though, he’s made his negative feelings about Trump clearer. When asked if he believed Trump was a fascist, Kelly said the term seemed to fit him.

“Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he’s certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators — he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure,” he said in an interview with the  New York  Times .

He told the  Times  that Trump “prefers the dictator approach to government,” adding that he “never accepted the fact that he wasn’t the most powerful man in the world — and by power, I mean an ability to do anything he wanted, anytime he wanted.”

Kelly also confirmed reporting from other outlets that Trump had previously praised Adolf Hitler. “He commented more than once that, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too,’” Kelly told the  Times .

Kelly also confirmed  The Atlantic ’s reporting from 2020 that Trump had referred to World War II soldiers buried in France as “suckers” and “losers” during a 2018 visit, telling the outlet that wasn’t the only time Trump used those words. “President Trump used the terms  suckers  and  losers  to describe soldiers who gave their lives in the defense of our country. There are many, many people who have heard him say these things. The visit to France wasn’t the first time he said this,” he told the outlet this week.

Mark Milley


In his recently published book  War , veteran journalist Bob Woodward cited comments from Mark Milley, who once served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In the book, Woodward writes that he ran into Milley, a source for a previous work, at a reception in 2023, where he expressed his growing concerns about Trump. “He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist . . .  

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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    4 weeks ago

The remaining weeks before Election Day have become defined by those whose support he lacks, namely several key members of his presidential administration.

Former members of Trump’s Cabinet as well as high-ranking military leaders who reported to him have issued stark warnings about the possibility of a second Trump term, describing their former boss as “fascist” and “dangerous.”

Here’s a look at the biggest names coming out against Trump as the election nears.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2  seeder  Krishna    4 weeks ago

These are the people discussed in the article: John Kelly, Mark Milley, James Mattis, Mark Esper, and Mike Pence.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3  Bob Nelson    4 weeks ago

When Trump pulled hos photo-op stunt, using force to clear legally authorized peaceful demonstrators from a Washington church, and then hold a Bible for the cameras... he required the presence of Gen Milley. The general's face was rigid with fury at having been tricked into the farce.

That's what Trump wants from generals: photo-op extras.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    4 weeks ago
That's what Trump wants from generals: photo-op extras.

Yes.

That-- and total obediance to do anything Trump wants (even if it endangers national security).

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1    4 weeks ago
That's what Trump wants from generals: photo-op extras.
Yes. That-- and total obediance to do anything Trump wants (even if it endangers national security).

In fact it goes beyond that. That is a fact, but it even goes beyond that-- he wants his commands followed even if it violates the U.S. Constitution! 

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Krishna
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4  seeder  Krishna    4 weeks ago

John Kelly

A retired four-star Marine Corps general who first served as the secretary of Homeland Security before he became White House chief of staff for nearly two years. Recently he’s made his negative feelings about Trump clearer. When asked if he believed Trump was a fascist, Kelly said the term seemed to fit him.

“He’s certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators — he has said that. He never accepted the fact that he wasn’t the most powerful man in the world — and by power, I mean an ability to do anything he wanted, anytime he wanted.” Kelly also confirmed reporting that Trump had previously praised Adolf Hitler. .

Kelly confirmed that Trump had referred to World War II soldiers buried in France as “suckers” and “losers” during a 2018 visit. President Trump used the terms  suckers  and  losers  to describe soldiers who gave their lives in the defense of our country. The visit to France wasn’t the first time he said this,” he told the outlet this week.

(Note: this comment has been edited for brevity)

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Krishna @4    4 weeks ago

How could Kelly continue serving Trump for two years?

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1    4 weeks ago
How could Kelly continue serving Trump for two years?

I really don't know. 

Perhaps at first he believed he might have believed he might be able to influence Trump in some positive way?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1    4 weeks ago

4 Star Generals aren't apt be quitters. 

 
 
 
George
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4.1.3  George  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

But most are highly political and know how to play the game.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Krishna @4.1.1    4 weeks ago
Perhaps at first he believed he might have believed he might be able to influence Trump in some positive way?

That is what he has stated.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  George @4.1.3    4 weeks ago
But most are highly political and know how to play the game.

If so.. what "game" do you think they are playing here by being so critical of one of the top two candidates for President?

IMO this elections is still "too close to call"-- so why would they deliberately day things that a possible future president would not like?

(In fact what they are saying would make a possible future president very angry!!! What sort of game is that? These people are not stupid.)

 
 
 
George
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4.1.6  George  replied to  Krishna @4.1.5    4 weeks ago
so why would they deliberately day things that a possible future president would not like?

Because there are more positions as talking heads on liberal outlets than there are conservative ones, and you don't become a 4 star general and chief of staff for a president without having an ego as big as trumps. The greatest fear for them is to be irrelevant. 

 
 
 
George
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4.1.7  George  replied to  Krishna @4.1.5    4 weeks ago

On a side note: i notice you use a larger font, like Buzz does, would you like me to respond in the same font size? It makes it easier for Buzz to read so i do it as a courtesy for him when exchanging comments.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  George @4.1.7    4 weeks ago
On a side note: i notice you use a larger font, like Buzz does, would you like me to respond in the same font size? 

I don't care what size font anyone uses. So why are you asking me whether I want you to post in a particular size?

It concerns Buzz-- so why don'y you ask him instead of someone else?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5  Tessylo    4 weeks ago

or losers like the former 'president' traitor rapist

 
 

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