Trump Attacks Liz Cheney Using Violent War Imagery - The New York Times
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In an onstage interview in Arizona with Tucker Carlson, former President Donald J. Trump slammed a top Republican critic as he criticized U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts.
Former President Donald J. Trump, left, and Tucker Carlson in Glendale, Ariz., on Thursday.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times
By Michael Gold
Reporting from Glendale, Ariz.
- Nov. 1, 2024
At his final campaign event in Arizona, former President Donald J. Trump on Thursday night insulted Liz Cheney, one of his most outspoken Republican critics, and used menacing imagery to suggest she should be sent into the line of fire.
During an onstage interview with Tucker Carlson, a former Fox News host and a top Trump ally, Mr. Trump hurled personal attacks at Ms. Cheney, who is campaigning with Vice President Kamala Harris. Then, taking issue with her foreign policy approach, he suggested she should be put in a war zone.
"She's a radical war hawk," Mr. Trump said, in front of thousands at the Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale, Ariz. "Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face."
He continued by expressing disdain for those in Washington who wanted to see the United States involved in foreign conflicts. "You know, they're all war hawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building, saying, 'Oh, gee, well, let's send, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.'"
Mr. Trump's violent hypothetical came as he has recently intensified the dark and at times threatening language he uses toward his political opponents. The former president, whose lie that he won the 2020 election spurred some of his supporters to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, once again on Thursday referred to a pernicious "enemy within" that needed to be addressed. He has previously described his enemies as "vermin" that needed to be rooted out. (Ms. Cheney was the top Republican on the House committee that investigated Mr. Trump's role in the Capitol riot.)
His language reflects the charged environment surrounding this year's election. Democrats and some Republicans have increasingly warned that Mr. Trump exhibits authoritarian tendencies, with Ms. Harris recently calling him a "fascist." Mr. Trump and his allies have argued that such language has fueled an overheated political climate that they argue has led to political violence, ignoring that Mr. Trump has long used similar language to describe Democrats.
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should be a fun weekend full of violent rhetoric from the person facing sentencing on multiple felonies at the end of the month ...
It goes without saying that Trump could have attacked Cheney for being a war hawk without suggesting she be shot at. But what fun would that be for MAGA ?
Trump likes very much to have it both ways. He wants to fantasize about an "enemy" like Cheney being executed by a firing squad, but at the same time leave a crack in the door where he and his followers can say thats not what he meant.
A "skill" he has developed with years in the con-man game.
Pink Floyd, Animals:Dogs
I think they're confusing her father, Shotgun Dick, as the war hawk, and that spineless traitor weasel former 'president' is speaking out against him and Liz now. Since Dick also endorsed Kamala.
Right. He should have just said she had a target on her back. It seems many on the left have no problem with that phrase.
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Every time that Trump or his MAGA followers open their mouths they only enhance their bona fidies as racists.
Giuliani said on a far right You Tube show that Haitians should not have been taken out of the jungle and brought to America.
It was ok for it to happen in 1675 , bringing Africans out of "the jungle" to America. The difference that people like Giuliani dont like is that in 2024 the jungle people have freedom of movement.
End Time Trump is like the end of McCarthyism.
It did not seem possible, but the Trump campaign has turned even darker in its last guttural gasps...
Saying chicken hawks should have to fight the wars they start is standard left wing rhetoric, (at least before the neo cons took over the DemocratiC. party). Funny stuff.
Now shameless liars on the left Ike Scarborough are claiming trump called for her execution. A last second dirty trick from the left, confident that their gullible audience won’t pay close enough attention to to see their deceit.
The shameless people are the Trump shills that make excuses for this garbage. Trump could have easily disparaged Cheney as a war hawk, chicken hawk if you like, without using the imagery of her being shot by "nine" barrels. This, of course, hints at a specific number of guns trained on Cheney. In a combat situation the number shooting at her would be unknown and unknowable, but in a firing squad scenario "nine" would be a logical number to choose.
Everyone but the MAGA fanatics see trump's true message with this latest misfire.
did trump call for Liz Cheney’s execution?
Why the number 9 ? We both know you have no answer.
This is a game Trump plays. Say something outrageous and then paper it over with the slimmest sliver of deniability.
No. The actual number of shooters in a firing squad is normally either three or five with five being the more normal number. But don't let a simple truth get in the way of a good partisan rant.
Like Trump would know or care how many people are "Standard" for a firing squad.
Go ahead, Bugsy , and comment some more in defense of your manchild.
Bugsy? WTF? Seems a little weak to not see who you are responding to.
You may want to go back and re-read the thread. Trump never stated 'firing squad', that all came from JR.
What did he state ? That nine Iranian or North Korean soldiers should point their weapons at Cheney and shoot? It is absurd.
It would be nice if his fans would acknowledge his deliberate absurdities once in a while.
Yes, and all of his enemies, the list grows by the minute.....
That's sad, it's right up there in the seed.
He didn't mention a firing squad as you alluded to in post 5.1. And he never specified any enemy country as you state in post 5.1.6.
Would be nice if his opposition wouldn't engage in deliberate absurdities so often.
I was creating an example of what Trumps statements could mean, which is a lot more than you are doing.
In other words making shit up to try and make a point.
Why did Trump say nine barrels? If you say he is a simple idiot I will respect that.
It seems to be getting worse as the election approaches. Any thought of integrity, honesty, rational thinking and objectivity are long gone.
Because sometimes 8 barrels just won't do.
I have said he is an idiot many times, you just seem to conveniently forget.
Thats your idea of integrity, honesty, rational thinking and objectivity ?
Then you agree that no one should vote for him.
No, it is a reply worthy of the comment replying to. If you want to know why he said 9 barrels you should probably ask him and not just make stuff up.
Did I say that? Why are you making stuff up again? I think everyone should vote for whoever they want to for whatever reason they want to.
"She's a radical war hawk," Mr. Trump said, in front of thousands at the Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale, Ariz. "Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face."
He continued by expressing disdain for those in Washington who wanted to see the United States involved in foreign conflicts. "You know, they're all war hawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building, saying, 'Oh, gee, well, let's send, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.'"
You don't see he may have been talking about if people had to go to war and face guns instead of just sending others they may think differently about it? Sounds alot like what many were saying during the Vietnam war.
But if you can find the direct quote she should be lined up in front of a firing squad of US soldiers and shot I will be glad to reconsider my point. That is called having integrity, honesty, rational thinking and objectivity
Trump rarely does direct quotes when he wants to threaten someone.
What he said would have been inappropriate in any case, but the use of the number nine seals the deal.
You said he's an idiot. I assumed you might want to tell people not to vote for an idiot.
It would-be nice if the Trump haters would stick to the actual dumb things he says without making stuff up or twisting.
Why are you hung up on the number 9?
That would be incorrect. I am not telling people who to vote for at all. I will do what I always do, treat people like rational adults perfectly capable of making their own decision. I will let them make their own decision without accusing them of not being rational, patriotic, in a cult, Nazis, objective or any of the other names dejour. The fact I think he is an idiot was taken into consideration by me before I voted
Are people about to be executed by firing given a rifle?
The quotes are above. You are giving a different meaning than the direct quotes provided, which is why I was asking if you have seen anything else.
Why does 9 seal the deal.
They should, and give them a head start. I think I have seen movies with a similar premise.
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So the big argument is about whether he specified a firing squad or was referring to a combat zone? Wow.
He made an error, God Forbid!
It does get easy to mistake though when there are so many defenders of the indefensible, one tends to get confused.
Not an argument. But it's a big deal when main-stream media continues to lie in their coverage to make Trump look bad. He does a good enough job all by himself. But this ridiculous bias that the media pushes when they lie like this..
They really cannot cry fowl as their ratings continue to plumet and the public no longer trusts them.
Making himself look bad. On that, we agree.
The Arizona Attorney General's office is now investigating Trump for death threats against Liz Cheney.
They should file and issue an arrest warrant.
Which radical war hawk said this?
somebody that should have been drafted and flown home in a box from vietnam in '68?