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The US Treasury Spent HOW MUCH Illegally? Now You Know Why the Left Wants to Stop DOGE - RedState

  

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The US Treasury Spent HOW MUCH Illegally? Now You Know Why the Left Wants to Stop DOGE - RedState

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By streiff | 1:11 PM on February 08, 2025 The opinions expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of RedState.com. cb330b1d-b012-49e0-8973-b944e15b99a4-1052x615.jpg AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite

Congress illegally spent at least $516 billion in 2024 on programs for which there was no authorization. Yes, billion, with a "b." A stunning report by the Congressional Budget Office underscores the reason for the legal assault upon President Trump's right to audit payments by the Treasury Department.

In a report titled "Expired and Expiring Authorizations of Appropriations for Fiscal Year 2024," the CBO observes: "Historically, House and Senate rules restrict lawmakers from considering an appropriation if it lacks a current authorization." Nevertheless, "CBO estimates that $516 billion was appropriated for 2024 for activities with expired authorizations, which the agency identified for each House and Senate authorizing committee and appropriations subcommittee." That $516 billion in illegal payments cover "1,264 authorizations of appropriations that expired before the beginning of fiscal year 2024 and 251 authorizations of appropriations that were set to expire by the end of fiscal year 2024." The legal authority for some of these payments expired 40 — that's not a typo — years ago.

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This data reveals a couple of things. First, Congress has established a shadow funding stream for pet projects of either the institution or of senior members that allows money to be shoveled into a porkulus spending bill under the guise of preventing a government shutdown. The money is paid even though there is no legal authority for the disbursement. This is what, among lesser beings, would be called embezzlement, but no word exists to describe the activity on this scale. Where embezzlement gets the plebians a stiff jail term, it gets members of Congress reelected and seats on corporate boards.

Making this all the more intriguing is that it would seem that the President could stop those payments without worrying about violating the Impoundment Control Act as they are not legal appropriations by Congress's rules.

I will guarantee you that when DOGE really digs into this, they are going to find other ongoing illegal payments on a Biblical scale.


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Big Balls
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1  seeder  Big Balls    10 hours ago

The jig is up.

 
 
 
Big Balls
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2  seeder  Big Balls    10 hours ago

Evidently if you go to the front page the word jig in my first post is truncated? LOL

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Big Balls @2    2 hours ago

Your post seems fishy.. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    9 hours ago

This is the sort of stuff an independent media used to thrive on. Now they just want to ensure they keep getting some of the loot. 

 
 
 
Big Balls
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3.1  seeder  Big Balls  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    9 hours ago

According to USAID most of our MSM isn't very independent.

 
 
 
George
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3.2  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    9 hours ago

Now it's,

Reporter: we have a story coming out about insider trading by Congress, would you like to comment?

Congress: We have a vote on funding for NPR and media coming up.

Reporter: are Story is about how there is no evidence of insider trading.

Congress: we are adding a zero to the funding.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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4  A. Macarthur    9 hours ago

The ACTUAL HEADLINE & DISCLAIMER from the Seeded Article

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The US Treasury Spent HOW MUCH Illegally? Now You Know Why the Left Wants to Stop DOGE

By   streiff   |   1:11 PM on February 08, 2025
The opinions expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of RedState.com.
 
 
 
Big Balls
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4.1  seeder  Big Balls  replied to  A. Macarthur @4    9 hours ago

Thankyou for telling us what we all knew. Now i will say there is no evidence Redstate's opinion is state sponsored like many of our mainstream media organizations as recently revealed with USAID transparency. 

Thanks for sharing an opinion on an opinion. LOL

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2  Greg Jones  replied to  A. Macarthur @4    9 hours ago

Red State. Townhall, et al, are pretty much all conservative sites with conservation authors. Do you agree with the topic of that article?

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JBB
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4.3  JBB  replied to  A. Macarthur @4    5 hours ago

The author identified as "streiff" with a small s is an unknown entity. Other than being a German word for attack there in nothing there!

 
 
 
Dig
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5  Dig    5 hours ago

RedState is a misinformation rag.

From mediabiasfactcheck.com :

Overall, we rate RedState borderline Questionable and strongly Right Biased, based on story selection that always favors the right and use of emotionally loaded (sensationalized) headlines. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing of information and several failed fact checks.

This article is no exception, with a sensationalized and emotionally loaded headline including a highly dubious claim of illegality.  

A search of my own turned this up in no time: (link)

Appropriations in the Absence of Authorizations

As the Comptroller General of the United States has explained

Where authorizations are not required by law, Congress may, subject to a possible point of order, appropriate funds for a program or object that has not been previously authorized or which exceeds the scope of a prior authorization, in which event the enacted appropriation, in effect, carries its own authorization and is available to the agency for obligation and expenditure.

Historically, as well as in recent years, Congress has on occasion appropriated money to fund programs with expired authorizations of appropriations. Because the distinction between authorizations and appropriations is a construct of congressional rules, it applies only to the consideration of legislation. If Congress appropriates funds for a program whose funding authorization has expired, that appropriation provides sufficient legal basis to continue the program during that period of availability absent indication of congressional intent to terminate the program.

A few statutes, however, explicitly require that funds to carry out particular activities may not be appropriated unless they have been specifically authorized. For example, the Department of Energy Organization Act included a provision requiring that “Appropriations to carry out the provisions of this Act shall be subject to annual authorization.” The Foreign Assistance Act of 1971 included language stating that “no money appropriated to the Department of State under any law shall be available for obligation or expenditure with respect to any fiscal year commencing on or after July 1, 1972 … unless the appropriation thereof has been authorized by law enacted on or after February 7, 1972.” Such statutory requirements for prior authorization are effectively congressional directives to itself, which Congress is free to follow or alter in subsequent legislation. Thus, if Congress were to appropriate funds to a department in the absence of an explicit authorization, the appropriation would be just as valid, and just as available for obligation, as if the requirement had been satisfied or did not exist.

People can of course argue whether any specific item should be funded or not, but funding for items lacking an explicit requirement for updated authorization is a matter of Congressional discretion, appears to be rather normal in certain circumstances, and is NOT ILLEGAL.

The article offers no details whatsoever regarding explicit authorization requirements for anything on the list, and considering the source, it's a very safe bet that the claim of illegality is unadulterated bullshit.

We'd be so much better off as a country if people would hold their sources of information to a higher standard, instead of instantly believing emotionally-charged misinformation from sources so obviously operating under a 'manufactured outrage' profit model.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Dig @5    48 minutes ago
"We'd be so much better off as a country if people would hold their sources of information to a higher standard,"

You mean CNN, MSNBC. ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, and THE VIEW

 
 
 
Dig
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5.1.1  Dig  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    31 minutes ago

The View? LOL. Sure. And especially wherever you get your information from, considering the alternate universe you seem to live most of the time, where things like a sitting president trying to subvert the Republic, or his goons attacking the US Capitol to further that subversion either didn't happen, or if they did are no big deal. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6  Sparty On    37 minutes ago

Chuck looks like he is finally stroking out.

 
 

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