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Trump shifts date for Canada and Mexico tariffs — again

  

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Via:  hallux  •  one month ago  •  10 comments

By:   Danielle Kurtzleben - NPR

Trump shifts date for Canada and Mexico tariffs — again

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President Trump   said on Thursday   that tariffs on Canada and Mexico will go into effect next week — a day after he suggested that they would be postponed until April.

It's the latest in a pattern of vague and changeable tariff pronouncements, leading many to be unsure of how seriously to take the threats.

The 25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian goods were initially scheduled for Feb. 1. However, at the last minute,   Trump gave the allies a reprieve , after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said that they were taking action to stop the flow of fentanyl and immigrants into the United States.

Trump then delayed the tariffs to early March. On Monday, Trump said the tariffs on Canada and Mexico would go ahead next week. But at   his Cabinet meeting on Wednesday , Trump said he was looking at April.

"April 2 — I was going to do April 1, but I'm a little bit superstitious, so I made it April 2 — the tariffs go on," he said when asked about the taxes during a wide-ranging, hourlong exchange with reporters during the Cabinet meeting.

However, on Thursday, he announced in a   social media post   that March 4 was, indeed, the day.

Nothing about how Trump talks about tariffs is normal — not only because Trump is threatening tariffs on a weekly, even daily, basis, but also because it's often unclear if or when many of those tariffs will happen, not to mention how big they'll be. That uncertainty itself can hurt the economy.

Here are some of the tariffs Trump has proposed


Trump ran for president promising big tariffs, telling crowds that "tariff" was "the most beautiful word in the dictionary." Tariffs are taxes that American businesses pay to import goods from overseas.

Thus far, one tariff has gone into effect this term: a   10% tariff on Chinese goods . (On Thursday, Trump said he   plans to add another 10%   on March 4.)

Trump has proposed many more. He signed an executive order expanding steel and aluminum tariffs, to go into effect on March 12, though questions remain as to how broadly they'll be applied.

Trump has also signed an order aimed at   imposing "reciprocal tariffs,"   potentially on all kinds of products from all trading partners. That order doesn't itself impose tariffs. Instead, it sets in motion a research process. Lutnick has said the administration could start imposing tariffs in early April.

Trump has also talked about cars and lumber. And this week, he announced an investigation that could lead to new tariffs on copper.

There's an echo here of "infrastructure week" — a phrase that became a joke during Trump's first term, referring to big repeated policy declarations with little follow-through.

Scott Lincicome, a trade expert at the libertarian Cato Institute, thinks the analogy broadly applies — with one big caveat.

"We shouldn't dismiss the real costs that this is inflicting on various companies in the economy more broadly," he said.

Tariffs can hurt consumers by   raising prices . But even when tariffs are merely threatened, the resulting uncertainty can drag on business investment. A manufacturer might hold off on buying steel and aluminum until it knows what the tariff policy will be.

Indeed, in a   2020 study , economists at the Federal Reserve found that trade policy uncertainty during Trump's first term significantly cut investment.

Trump's executive orders make the threats more formal


But there are differences between now and eight years ago, Lincicome said — most notably, that Trump appears more willing to act on his tariff threats.

"In Trump 1.0, you just got a tweet that said, 'Oh, I'm gonna slap tariffs on stuff.' We didn't actually get a signed executive order with a deadline," he said. "This is much more formal, and I think that has significant economic implications."

But it's still not clear when Trump is or isn't willing to back down. He has, for example, signed an order to   expand steel and aluminum tariffs . Trump initially said there would be no exemptions for any country. However, countries are still pushing for exemptions, and this week, Trump officials and   Australian officials   met as Australia seeks its own exemption.

Conflicting goals add to the uncertainty


There's another thing adding to the uncertainty: With some tariffs, it's unclear what Trump's goals are.

Chad Bown, a trade expert at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and an economist in the Biden administration, points to Trump's reciprocal tariff idea. Trump has said those tariffs are about fairness, but Bown sees that rationale as confusing.

"This is one argument that he's put forward, but it's one of many arguments that President Trump has put forward on the reasons why he might be using tariffs, and many of them are inconsistent with each other," Bown said.

This means that it can be hard to game out what might cause Trump to go through with — or back down from — some of his threats.

It's not just economists taking Trump's tariff threats with several grains of salt. Markets are also assuming policy won't match Trump's grandest pronouncements.

"We think that the market's certainly looking at it probabilistically," said Mike Reynolds, vice president of investment strategy at wealth management firm Glenmede. "We think that sort of the median likelihood, straight down the middle, is that [tariffs] will end up somewhere that's in between current policy and proposed policy."

The effects of tariff threats go beyond businesses and investors. This month, consumer confidence   suffered its largest drop   since 2021, fueled in part by fears that tariffs will stoke inflation.


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Hallux
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1  seeder  Hallux    one month ago

Goodbye Amazon ... Hello TEMU ... 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1    one month ago

remember way back when the maga folks were so concerned about a senile POTUS?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

Now we have a lunatic POTUS who is also senile

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.2  seeder  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

It's been Tuesday ever since.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.3  George  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

Yes, I can also remember when the ignorant fucktards on the left didn't care. only thing changed was the party ID, does that make the fucktard dems hypocrites?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    one month ago

trump is the living example of the term "stupid as shit" ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.5  devangelical  replied to  George @1.1.3    one month ago

but, but, but, what about ...

ignorant fucktards on the left... fucktard dems ...

gee, funny how some people get tickets here when the words magatards and maga morons get used ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1.5    one month ago

Amen!

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.7  seeder  Hallux  replied to  George @1.1.3    one month ago

I have been here for just over 5 years and have yet to flag a single comment, you my dear are pressing your luck.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2  Tacos!    one month ago

He has concepts of a plan for tariffs.

 
 

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