Elon Musk Wildly Calls Mark Kelly a 'Traitor' On X
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Via: john-russell • one week ago • 53 commentsBy: Alex Griffing (Mediaite)
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Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ) fired back at Elon Musk on Monday after the Tesla billionaire called him a "traitor' for visiting Ukraine.
Kelly, a former astronaut and Navy captain, posted a lengthy thread on Sunday about his visit to Ukraine. He wrote, "Just left Ukraine. What I saw proved to me we can't give up on the Ukrainian people. Everyone wants this war to end, but any agreement has to protect Ukraine's security and can't be a giveaway to Putin. Let me tell you about my trip and why it's important we stand with Ukraine."
Musk replied to Kelly's post, "You are a traitor."
Kelly, a decorated naval aviator, later hit back at the South Africa-born Trump supporter, saying, "Traitor? Elon, if you don't understand that defending freedom is a basic tenet of what makes America great and keeps us safe, maybe you should leave it to those of us who do."
https://www.twitter.com/SenMarkKelly/status/1899155561171558505
Kelly also debunked some of Trump's claims regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine in his thread that led to Musk's wild accusation. Kelly wrote:
This war started with what Putin thought would be a three-day operation to take Kyiv and control of all of Ukraine. Now three years later, that hasn't happened. American and allied support has been a big reason why, but I saw how cutting it off now risks everything so many Ukrainians have laid down their lives for. And while our support hasn't been free, we haven't sent even half of what President Trump says.
Hospitals should never be targets in war, but Putin is a war criminal who targets hospitals routinely. I visited one in Kyiv. Injured soldiers told me how they want to get back to the fight. Nurses there shared their stories of the invasion with me through tears. Stories of violence that women and children of Ukraine suffered during the invasion. These nurses told me how they witnessed Russian soldiers raping children in front of their parents and then murdering these children in front of their parents. Horrendous war crimes which can never be forgiven. Donald Trump says he trusts Putin and is trying to make him look like a friend and a good guy. I look forward to seeing Putin rot in prison.
The pause of military aid has only made it harder for Ukraine in their fight against Russia. They are running low on certain weapons which have made it most of the way to Ukraine. Stopping the transfer of these weapons only helps the Russians. The Russians will become more confident and try to drive a harder bargain in ceasefire talks. This isn't rocket science. We should be negotiating from a position of strength.
Donald Trump is trying to weaken Ukraine's hand and we are owed an explanation. If Putin gains ground he won't agree to a ceasefire and will eventually threaten a NATO ally and this puts American troops and the American people at risk.
I met with Ukrainian pilots, one who I had met in Arizona when he was learning to fly the F-16. They are flying challenging combat missions against the Russians who are protected by a considerable electronic warfare and surface to air missile system defense. They've learned a lot and they are getting better and having more success. When Trump cut off these pilots from US intelligence that they need to plan their missions, he blinded them to the threat and put them and their aircraft at risk. But worse than that, it helps the Russians advance further into Ukrainian territory and murder more Ukrainians. President Trump says the Russians are "hitting them hard" in a tone of voice that implies approval. It is sickening to see from an American President. "Hitting them hard" means more dead Ukrainian kids.
Ukraine did not start this war, and they did not ask for the constant missile and drone attacks that have terrorized the population. Government officials who can't acknowledge factual information should reevaluate their career choices.
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Also , over the weekend, Musk called the foreign minister of Poland "little man" in an X reply . He is emulating his political mentor Trump.
Does he really think insults endear him to people?
And Captain Kelly is a hero.
Maybe.
Leftists called conservatives racist, white supremacist, nazi, Hitler, garbage, and a bunch of other names to appease their base.
Democrats have normalized calling everyone under the sun a traitor. Another word they've made meaningless.
FYI: Neither Musk nor Trump is a Democrat.
(Surprised you didn't know that...
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Its a lot, lot easier to show that Trump is a traitor than it is to show the same about Kelly.
It would be impossible for anyone to show that Mark Kelly is a traitor. You can prove that Trump is a traitor all day any day of the week.
The very notion is absurd. More MAGA dysfunction.
Flipping reality is standard fascist practice. If reality is "up", they say "down". It's a reflex so automatic that sometimes they say really dumb stuff.
But hey! You don't expect them to actually think about what they say, do you?
Trump has been a Putin asset/puppet since 1986.
So start at your timeline, 1986, and give us ACTUAL FACTS that can back up your claim.
So your reaction to this story is basically, "i'm rubber, you're glue?"
How about the details of the story? It seems you're just fine that this veteran, astronaut, and senator is being called a traitor. So, how exactly is he a traitor? Or are you prepared to declare that Elon Musk is a liar?
A sentiment only espoused by morons.
Kelly is a true American hero who served his country, was an Astronaut in real life, and was elected by the people of his state to represent them.
Musk can go back to Africa because we don't need him trashing real Americans. America did NOT elect him.
Let's not forget his solid support for his wife, victim of gun violence.
Let’s not forget this opportunistic piece of crap took advantage of his wife shooting to obtain a position he wasn’t qualified to hold.
What position is that?
You mean the position to which her fellow Arizonans elected her?
Wow......
Or maybe you don't know the story of Gabby Giffords? In which case... you really, really should shut the fuck up.
He is just following the democrat play book, call everyone you disagree with a traitor.
So it’s ok?
Every bit as okay as anyone else calling trump a traitor or Biden a traitor, in this country you have free speech. Kelly is a public figure.
Give a straight answer to a straight question. Is it ok or not?
It's protected speech, but it isn't every bit as ok. Trump actually is a traitor for trying to subvert and betray the Constitution and the Republic after losing the 2020 election. Biden and Mark Kelly aren't.
Calling trmp a traitor is the truth.
Calling Captain Kelly a traitor is a bald faced lie and anyone who even suggests it should be publicly shamed and humiliated (I'm partial to the stocks, myself)[✘]
And then sent back to South Africa.
The best poster I saw on TV from the demonstrations this week was a handwritten sign a woman was holding that said: Send Nazi Boy to Mars
The big difference between Mark Kelly and Elon Musk is that Mark Kelly is a hero and a great human being, and Elon Musk is a POS.
I saw a poster held by a protester at a tesla dealership that said something to the effect of "don't buy swastikars", LOL ...
I find it hilarious that up until a year ago or so it seemed almost all rightwing conservatives were adamantly opposed to electric cars and anything they deemed an attempt to acknowledge the human effect on climate change. All it took was Trump blowing some air into the wacky inflatable racist tube man that is Elon Musk to turn every one of them into a diehard electric car fan. "We've always loved Tesla! No one can prove otherwise! And it's not because of climate change! It's cause of freedom! Yeah! In your face Democrats!". If this was just a tactical subterfuge of Musk to get conservatives to buy electric, well played sir, well played.
I find it hilarious that progressives are now burning and vandalizing electric cars.
Idiots
I agree, those vandals are fucking idiots. All they should be doing is peacefully protesting by never buying anything from Musk or Trump or any rightwing confederate loving conservative based companies.
I just heard what Kelly had to say about Putin. He called him a criminal and an existential threat to Ukraine and the U.S. No wonder Nazi Boy called him a traitor since Nazi Boy and Trump fully support Putin's brutal slaughter of Ukrainians.
How can anyone read that and still think Russia is the right ally to have on our side? They did the same kind of horrible shit in Germany when they over ran Berlin. I don't support Nazi Germany, but one can invade an enemy and not do these horrible things
“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” - Donald J Trump
Well, perhaps Trump voters share Trumps view on sex with children, even his own...
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." - Donald J Trump
I guess for many religious conservative Trump supporters, the allegations against Russia aren't deal breakers. They want to see it happen right in front of them before they'll decide on the matter, otherwise, it never happened.
Kelly is an honorable combat veteran and patriot. Musk is filth.
Any questions?
So the left is back to crying about people saying mean things.
You mean like Trump cries about the press? We learned it all from him, such a mentor that boy.
I meant exactly what I said.
So, you acknowledge that it’s mean. Would you agree that it’s also not truthful?
You are assuming that is what I mean. There is no hidden meaning in my statement. Although I do have to admit that it's fun to watch you try to find one.
Why don’t you clarify your meaning then? I also asked you a direct question. Try answering it. Your games are not amusing.
It's in plain English. If you can't understand it then I can't help you.
You assume your in a position of some authority and that I should care. You made an incorrect assumption. That's on you.
Yeah that’s the evasive BS we’ve come to expect.
There is nothing for me to evade.
No, of course not.
Reminds me of this guy trying to get through to the thick-headed Fox News host Laura Ingraham.
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That's... kinda spooky. "Me! Me! Me!"
Don't recall ever stopping calling out lying assholes.
I don't recall the left ever stopped crying over people saying mean things.
You can call them out all you want. Just don't cry when told to back up your claims.
Mark Kelly has more patriotism and public service in his left nut than Elon Musk has in his whole body.
He hasn't been making rockets all that well lately, either
Further, every bad act of Elon is a result of Trump. And Trump is a result of his supporters.
as stated prior, they will deny or defend N E Thing