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Pam Bondi leads first anti-Christian bias task force meeting

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  5 days ago  •  59 comments

By:   The Hill Staff (The Hill)

Pam Bondi leads first anti-Christian bias task force meeting
Attorney General Pam Bondi leads White House task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias, following Trump's National Prayer Breakfast.

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by The Hill Staff - 04/22/25 2:00 PM ET

Attorney General Pam Bondi will lead the first meeting of the White House task force assigned to "eradicate anti-Christan bias," just days after the Easter holiday.

The panel will address what President Trump described during February's National Prayer Breakfast as attacks on religious liberty and on Christians in particular.

The event comes after Trump moved to create a White House Faith Office earlier this year. The office, led by longtime Trump adviser the Rev. Paula White, will work alongside the task force to "review the activities of all departments and agencies to identify and eliminate anti-Christian policies, practices, or conduct," according to an executive order.

The meeting is scheduled to begin at 2 p.m. EDT.

Watch the live video above.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    5 days ago

Who is going to decide what "anti-Christian" bias is ?   Paula White ? 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 days ago

uh oh, some maga thumper here will probably turn me in now ...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    5 days ago

They can look at religious bias in university or job applications. Those with religion based activities get treated worse than those with none. The studies are out there. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    5 days ago

Any "task force" that has Paula White in a position of responsibilty isnt worth warm spit. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    5 days ago

What is her position on this task force? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    5 days ago
Any "task force" that has Paula White in a position of responsibilty isnt worth warm spit.

Trump's administration is just looking to violate each individual Constitution Article and Amendment one at a time.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.3  CB  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    5 days ago

It would seem Paula White is mostly interested in her 'bottom-line' and thus, the church, its message, is merely a means of placing herself near power.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    5 days ago

She's responsible for finding anti-Christian bias

The office, led by longtime Trump adviser the Rev. Paula White, will work alongside the task force to "review the activities of all departments and agencies to identify and eliminate anti-Christian policies, practices, or conduct

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    5 days ago

Why would anyone want Paula White to be associated with any legitimate process? It is ludicrous. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.6  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    5 days ago

This is White Christian Nationalism attempting to white-wash and nationalize (white) culture in totality in society. That is, kill multiculturalism in the proverbial 'bathtub.' Any Christian so stupid as to think that Jesus wants a White-washing of the minds of people bound for Glory, has to answer the question why God would have mixed this country together with "many tribes" in the first place. BTW, the sheer ARROGANCE of 'nationalists' to think that they can hold back the progress of time and the world is shockingly disappointing. The task is one of impossibility such as one would experience if trying to blow out the sun!

Paula White ought to be ashamed for participating in such a farce as this. But, she has forgotten shame apparently. Al this is, is a money-making scheme and a 'job' that will garner her a sizeable paycheck otherwise she might not have received. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    5 days ago

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Sean Treacy
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2.1.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    5 days ago

So she's not on the task force. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    5 days ago
dministration is just looking to violate each individual Constitution Article and Amendment one at a time

Imagine thinking anti-Christian bias is permissible under the Constitution. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.10  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.9    5 days ago

Imagine thinking needing a taskforce led by reactionaries to placate reactionaries that their fear of becoming second-class citizens ("persecuted ones") is a delusion spoon-fed them through their private media companies as a means of creating fungible 'clickbait' and ad-sales.

The fact is truth is out there laying semi-buried and tarnished on the walked on ground where MAGAs left it to go in-search of ways to demean, disenfranchise, and demonize Others who wish to live with them in peace.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @2.1.10    5 days ago
that their fear of becoming second-class citizens ("persecuted ones") is a delusio

So all these studies showing a bias are made up.  Lol. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.12  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.11    5 days ago

What "all" studies you have available? Show your evidence! Let's see if these "studies" lend themselves to confirmation biases of their own! Is it white Christians polling themselves about not being respected for their strict-fathering attitudes which lead others to back away and seek escape from them. We shall look and see if it is true persecution against white Christians who do not 'attack' others first. 

Let's do one study (out of the all) at a time so we can go give each study a deep-dive. Or, if that is to rich to ask, pick the 'best' of the lot and let's have a lookit. Please begin. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @2.1.12    5 days ago
s it white Christians polling themselves about no

how did race get involved in this? 

t being respected for their strict-fathering attitudes

No. As I said, it's about demonstrated bias against applicants who list their religious based activities when applying for schools and jobs.  You are on this board. You see how other atheists here talk about Christians, particularly evangelical or born again Christians. How you can you possibly surprised that people with those attitudes, if given the chance, would discriminate against Christians? 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.14  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    5 days ago

Interesting you should hint at reasoning with me about my Christian belief system. I would love and enjoy the engagement! But first, declare if this will be one Christian sharing with another Christian. . . .  Give me your answer to the question and I will meet you at that 'spot.' 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.15  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    3 days ago
You see how other atheists here talk about Christians, particularly evangelical or born again Christians.

Notice how none of them speak the same way of Muslims?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.13    3 days ago
how did race get involved in this? 

For some it's all about race.  I think there is a term for that...

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.17  CB  replied to  bugsy @2.1.15    3 days ago

Why should we, Muslims in this country do not manifest any significant power to effectuate the meddling attitudes, activities, and policy prescriptions that Christian Nationalists (oxymoron) do. When and if they do then the FOCUS will shift to them accordingly.

Instead of making a whataboutism assertion; MAGAs would be better served to leave people along that are not bothering them!

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.18  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.16    3 days ago

The answer:

"Colorblindness" is code for lets play pretend that we are all White Christian Nationalists and get on with our lives. The fact is this country can never be homogenous with White Christian Nationalists in it. Why? Because White Christian Nationalists are heavy-handed, mean-spirited, even cruel, malcontents. Spending great amounts of time and energy trying to keep non-Christian-Nationalists slotted as second-class citizens. And, White Christian Nationalists do not mix well with Others for long.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @2.1.18    3 days ago

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devangelical
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2.1.20  devangelical  replied to  CB @2.1.18    3 days ago
White Christian Nationalists

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CB
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2.1.21  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.19    3 days ago

Actually, a question was asked which you remarked about what "you think. . . ." So I put some background on to the matter. :) 

As far as White Christian Nationalism goes. . . I think, that such people, such reactionaries, can not mix well with other people for long. . . but, like all of 'us' in this country, none of us are perfect. . . so in the right proportion politically even a White Christian Nationalism perspective can add (limited) value to this republic. The overarching problem is this:  White Christian Nationalists do not want to see the changes that are happening all around this nation because progress (like time) can only be held back so long before it 'breaks forth' and seeks to continue on its drive to what is up ahead. :) 

One day soon, and very soon, the world is going to tire of the United States racial bullshit that it fosters between its own good citizens and the good people of the world.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @2.1.21    3 days ago
Actually, a question was asked which you remarked about what "you think

No.  Despite what you THINK.  No question was ask.  

tire of the United States racial bullshit 

Then stop pushing it.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.23  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @2.1.17    3 days ago
Why should we, Muslims in this country do not manifest any significant power to effectuate

You noticed that there isn't an "anti-Muslim bias task force", did you?  Well spotted.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.24  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.22    3 days ago

The response stands-like it or not. I'm sorry that MAGA reactionaries can not understand why this nation needs to continue with its break from a morally mixed past to one that is morally magnanimous. We can not survive whole as a nation with a national motto: "In God we Trust" when we do not even trust the citizens we see everyday! Either we are going to settle our differences or we will 'reap the whirlwind' by losing our status, reputation, and place in the world pecking order now that the world is noticing how 'bipolar' this nation can be. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.25  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.23    3 days ago
Why should we, Muslims in this country do not manifest any significant power to effectuate the meddling attitudes, activities, and policy prescriptions that Christian Nationalists (oxymoron) do.

That is the sentence in its complete context.

When Muslims become a 'problem' for the overall citizen/culture of this country. . . they will face criticism just like any other group does and/or will. Now back to the White Christian Nationalists in power right now and doing everything they can to effectuate control over non-Christian Nationalists. .  . .

Shame on the Shameless for their arrogance to think that they will just steamroll this free-thinking and diverse society into falling in-line behind their wishes for it. In doing so, giving up the future course ahead of this great(est) nation to 'idle' in some past 'lost' womb of a by-gone era.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.26  Tacos!  replied to  CB @2.1.21    3 days ago
One day soon, and very soon, the world is going to tire of the United States racial bullshit that it fosters between its own good citizens and the good people of the world.

Amen, Brother.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.27  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @2.1.21    3 days ago
, and very soon, the world is going to tire of the United States racial bullshit that it fosters between its own good citizens and the good people of the world.

you should meet other people of the world.  Americans are about the least racist people in the world.  I know left wing propaganda is based on anti-american hatred, but the idea that america is some hotbed of racism is just pure fiction. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.28  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.27    3 days ago

No gaslighting okay. We're not discussing "white people" as a genus. The White people with the racial bullcrap that they keep 'sic-ing' on this nation and the world to keep tribalism and people fighting against their own aspirations for unity - these are the ones being discussed.

In this country our malcontents are largely White Christian Nationalists. They started tripping, dividing, and splitting people up on some fool notion that they could be homogenous people only if others were kept divided and fighting amongst themselves.

Our nation and our world is sick 'on' and of it. All the warring, all the 'manifest destinies,' all the crap about 'superiority,' all the crap about power relations, the nation is set to vomit it up and burn it.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.29  bugsy  replied to  CB @2.1.21    2 days ago
One day soon, and very soon, the world is going to tire of the United States racial bullshit that it fosters between its own good citizens and the good people of the world.

Being that the US is one of the least racist country in the world, I seriously doubt it. 

Have you ever been to South Africa lately? If you are white, I suggest you not go because your like will be seriously in danger, especially if you own land.

Been to Mexico? Does the word "gringo" ring a bell? That is a racist term aimed at whites. 

As much as I love Japan and lived there for seven years, they are very racist against anyone NOT Japanese, unless you immerse yourself into their culture. Then, and only then, will they full accept you. 

It seems to me you have never been out of this country, so the knowledge of what country is "racist" and which is not is grossly limited.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.30  CB  replied to  bugsy @2.1.29    2 days ago

What does what other people do that is stupid and hateful have to do with the racists attitudes we display to each other and export around the world?

Finally, you don't know where I have been. . . unless I mention it publicly. So I suggest you keep your 'guesswork' off me. More importantly, it is not the issue here. Why? Because, I have been to the United States!

 
 
 
CB
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3  CB    5 days ago

When a group shows you what they are about: Believe them. Don't even worry about the outrage. Just get on with the business of pushing back against bull-crap. This country is not a Christian nation. I will tell you this, some Christians, specifically White Christians Nationalists, call them what the want to be and ARE, want to be returned to their past dominance as this country's "national' religion. Even though, it can be proven that the founders, having come from a monarchy, fully decided not to install CHRISTIANITY OR ANYOTHER  RELIGION as a national religion.

So then, this is why you see all this activity on the Far Right. These people are using Trump (and he them) to REGRESS this country to tribalism and white dominance. The opposite of a multicultural society which the constitution aspires us to be. Therefore, clearly, we can see which party has a PURPOSE to DIVIDE the people in order to fulfill its agenda.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @3    5 days ago
When a group shows you what they are about: Believe them.

Agreed.  Individuals too, BTW.

Don't even worry about the outrage.

Agree again.  Outrage is for the emotional.

Just get on with the business of pushing back against bull-crap.

I'm actually on board for this, provided there is a plan that doesn't suck.  Any ideas?

This country is not a Christian nation.

Correct.  It is a secular nation founded by Christians.

I will tell you this, some Christians, specifically White Christians Nationalists, call them what the want to be and ARE, want to be returned to their past dominance as this country's "national' religion. Even though, it can be proven that the founders, having come from a monarchy, fully decided not to install CHRISTIANITY OR ANYOTHER  RELIGION as a national religion.

Good point.  The founders lived in a time where religious persecution was normal, and people went to war over whether the king was the "correct" religion.  They knew that a religion and politics were an explosive combination that could easily destroy a country.  So they created a "safe space" for everybody to worship how they saw fit.

Today, we have fundamentalist Christians who convince themselves they're being persecuted.... especially in places where they are the dominant sect. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.1  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1    5 days ago
Today, we have fundamentalist Christians who convince themselves they're being persecuted.... especially in places where they are the dominant sect. 

Since you went there, then maybe you can go further:

Are fundamentalist Christians, who are taught to believe that the end times are near (whatever), taught that a persecution of themselves by those they inhumanely classify as "others" and "outsiders," and their stockpiling of guns -  a potential danger to our country?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @3.1.1    5 days ago
Since you went there, then maybe you can go further:

Sure.

 -  a potential danger to our country?

I don't think they're dangerous, no.

Are fundamentalist Christians, who are taught to believe that the end times are near (whatever), taught that a persecution of themselves by those they inhumanely classify as "others" and "outsiders," and their stockpiling of guns

This, however, is a series of pretty wild accusations.  As you accuse others of "inhumanely classifying", be careful you don't do that yourself.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.3  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.2    5 days ago

That is not a "sure' furtherance

Are fundamentalist Christians, who are taught to believe the end times are near,  taught persecution of themselves by  "others" and "outsiders," and are stockpiling guns -  a danger to our country?

I solicit elaboration on the question above. If no, why are such people not potentially dangerous?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1    5 days ago
It is a secular nation founded by Christians.

LOL Nope. It was founded by people of several different faiths. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.4    4 days ago
LOL Nope. It was founded by people of several different faiths. 

Do list for us the Buddhists, Muslims, and Zoroastrians of the American Revolution.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @3.1.3    4 days ago
I solicit elaboration on the question above.

OK.  The question is erroneously presumptive.  They are not  taught persecution of themselves by  "others" and "outsiders,".  You are projecting your favored terms.

If no, why are such people not potentially dangerous?

Why would they be? 

You've asked a very strange question, considering the readily available data on who in our society is actually dangerous.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.7  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.6    4 days ago

So let's be clear: Fundamentalist Christians are not told or taught that Others and those outside of their belief system are persecuting them, in your opinion?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.5    4 days ago

The USA is not a Christian nation, never has been, never will be.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.9  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.8    3 days ago
The USA is not a Christian nation, never has been, never will be.

Correct. 

Which is why I said it's "a secular nation founded by Christians".  Not sure how that's possibly an objectionable statement.  Do you know what "secular" means?

To pretend it wasn't founded by Christians is a bit strange.

Significant numbers of colonists were in North America because their particular Christian sect had been persecuted in Europe.  The framers understood what actual religious persecution was, and were determined to make sure it didn't happen in their new nation.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @3.1.7    3 days ago
Fundamentalist Christians are not told or taught that Others and those outside of their belief system are persecuting them, in your opinion?

Most of them are taught that Satan is persecuting them. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.11  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.10    3 days ago

Well Jack, since Satan, if real, has to be a spirit whom would you likely imagine fundamentalist Christians might consider that spirit to 'possess'? I cover a deep reply.

 
 
 
evilone
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4  evilone    5 days ago

This will be just as effective and cost efficient as looking in Joe's basement for stolen chinese money.

 
 
 
CB
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4.1  CB  replied to  evilone @4    5 days ago

This is what is so messed up about this: The reactionary Right have swallowed the 'whole pig' that liberals are not as much citizens of this country as themselves. Which assumes that the Far Right is some 'high' standard of constitutional authority. They are not as evidenced by their disgraceful and low-bar antics and behaviors toward their fellow citizenry. Doubling and tripling 'down' on attempting to bend truth to their will will result in failure and large wastes of this country's time and internal wealth.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.2  Jack_TX  replied to  evilone @4    4 days ago
This will be just as effective and cost efficient as looking in Joe's basement for stolen chinese money.

It won't be nearly as cost effective.

 
 
 
evilone
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5  evilone    4 days ago

I read this morning that the VA wants workers to report each other for 'anti-Christian' bias. Why are Trump supporters supporting this waste of taxpayer money? We'll be spending more on lawyers than we saved on their stupid cost cutting measures.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1  Tacos!  replied to  evilone @5    4 days ago
We'll be spending more on lawyers than we saved on their stupid cost cutting measures.

I’m pretty sure we haven’t saved anything. While there is stuff we aren’t spending money on anymore, they are just spending more on their own bullshit.

 
 
 
CB
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5.2  CB  replied to  evilone @5    4 days ago

Because presently we federal powers are in the clutches of 'White Christian Nationalism/Nationalists.' These people feign righteous and fair treatment, when what they are largely is a coalition of bigots, dominionists, and racists. The truth of this, is they are making up pretexts to say they are mistreated. . .when not even other Christians agree with their values and activities which expressly are dividing people and the country in order to pretend that they can recreate some past Christian glory (actually for which the country is ASHAMED and even went so far as to apologize for) that really was bone-headed, wrong-headed, and long-headed. Even the Catholic Church apologized for its behavior in the past toward Native Americans, and Black Americans by commission and omission, in that order. 

Who has heard of practicing Christians being so obsessed with hurting and abusing other people. I question these people claim to Christianity. Because if they are it: Then it ain't worth much! Such people are a gathering of hard-cases and reprobates!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    4 days ago
attacks on religious liberty and on Christians in particular

For example?

I don’t honestly know why anyone in this administration would genuinely be worried about attacks on religious liberty and Christians in particular. The president is certainly no Christian, from what I have seen, and it appears to me that his followers are not either. They deal in cruelty and wrap themselves in the cross or the Bible only as unifying symbolism for their cult of cruelty and Trump worship.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @6    4 days ago

There is an anti-Christian bias commission in this administration because a sizeable number of MAGAs are Christian nationalists who dont believe in the separation of church and state. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @6    4 days ago
I don’t honestly know why anyone in this administration would genuinely be worried about attacks on religious liberty and Christians in particular.

They're not. 

They're genuinely worried about appearing to be worried about it.

The first year of any presidency is all about pandering to the base.

 
 
 
CB
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6.3  CB  replied to  Tacos! @6    3 days ago

Tell it like it is.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7  Dismayed Patriot    3 days ago

You know, I'm not sure many people who seem vehemently opposed to DEI (diversity, equity & inclusion) know what those "others" actually want to be included in. I say this because I often see white conservative Christians bitching about why no one is making a special group to include them.

Now, this would be pretty funny if it wasn't actually happening. You see, what these minority groups have always wanted was just to be "included". In what you ask? Well, that would be mainstream society that, in America, has been run by white conservative Christians for decades. So, all these other groups of minorities wanted to be included in the group already occupied by and run by white Christians in America.

Now, we have the white Christians pining "What about us? These parties used to be catered to us and we were the ones in charge, now we have to think about everyone else? Fuck that! We want our exclusive White Club back! And the first rule of White Club is we don't talk about white club, so we just need to stop funding any other groups and then we can pool our money and reopen white club and make America white again!

 
 
 
CB
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7.1  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7    3 days ago

Emphatically. Such people that they care, these White Christian Nationalists, they give up little of nothing of their devotion to white male dominance extended over the whole of the country. Remember, the issue when President Lincoln had to wonder and 'debate' with himself what he would do with freed slaves, that is, blacks? A choice on the table was sending those former slaves out of the country. . . to "be" somewhere. Then, there was separate but unequal. And the usual suspects, white Christian nationalists, though it was just fine. Let the blacks and other minorities state here as second-class citizens. 

The saddest part of this. . . White Christian Nationalists have not grown 'out' of their intent for this country. It is clear when they heard "All men are created equal. . . ." they understood and accepted that to mean whites are superior and non-whites (or those at the time and now they deem to be 'un-white) are inferior.

Oh yes, they do the code talking, and developing narratives with the best of those who can write scripts—about themselves. They would have. . . a foolish or ignorance person. . . persuaded they want equality for all. I have even read these nationalists whom act against DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) cry (gaslighting) they are the biggest purveyors of diversity, and they do not seek to divide people from people, and they are subscribers to homogeneity—to their worldview solely, nevertheless. 

 
 

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