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White Afrikaners Trash Trump's Reason for Offering "Refugee" Status

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  john-russell  •  last year  •  31 comments

By:   Edith Olmsted (The New Republic)

White Afrikaners Trash Trump's Reason for Offering "Refugee" Status
Even white South Africans think Donald Trump's offering them special immigration status is dumb.

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Even white South Africans think Donald Trump's offering them special immigration status is dumb.


Donald Trump is paving the way for white South African "refugees" to come to the United States, but they're not all that interested in taking him up on his offer, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

The U.S. president falsely claimed Monday that Afrikaners, the white descendants of mainly Dutch colonizers in South Africa, are facing a "genocide" in their home country. So then why don't they actually want to leave?

Maritz Grobler, a tenth-generation South African on his father's side who owns a sprawling 1,000-acre farm in Settlers, wasn't interested in the offer to relocate. "This is my country," Grobler told the Journal.

"But it's good to know that [Trump] will back us … if shit happens," he added.

While white South Africans are the target of horrific crimes, they are killed in significantly lower numbers than Black South Africans, according to the Journal.

White people account for roughly 7 percent of South Africa's population of 63 million people, and of that number, Afrikaners make up about two-thirds, so roughly three million people in total. Despite having a vastly smaller population, white commercial farmers—the majority of whom are Afrikaners—still possess about half of the country's land and produce a whopping 90 percent of its agricultural products. In 2024, South Africa's agricultural exports were worth a record $13.7 billion.

Afrikaners have therefore maintained a hefty chunk of the nation's wealth. Only 1 percent of white South Africans live in poverty, compared to nearly two-thirds of Black South Africans. This accumulated land and wealth is the direct result of systemic historical racial oppression under South African apartheid.

Despite one Trump official's claim that white South Africans have been given an exception to Trump's refugee ban because they would be supposedly easier to assimilate into the majority-white U.S. population than refugees from other countries, Grobler said that the cultural difference was still too great.

"I don't want to speak English for the rest of my life," Grobler said. White South Africans typically speak Afrikaans, not English. But it seems that language barrier likely won't incense Vice President JD Vance the way it did when the hypothetical immigrant children he was mad at were brown.

Grobler told the Journal that politicians "seek power and money and get it through playing the race card and hammering on historic events.

"South Africans on the ground will be able to move forward together if politicians get out of the way and go do their bloody jobs," he added.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year
one Trump official's claim that white South Africans have been given an exception to Trump's refugee ban because they would be supposedly easier to assimilate into the majority-white U.S. population than refugees from other countries

sounds more than a little like the trump administration thinks the US is a "white" country. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year
sounds more than a little like the trump administration thinks the US is a "white" country. 

White supremacists gotta stick together...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1    last year

I have a suspicion that the white Afrikaners who have come here are seeking a better life, materially.  I dont think we are seeing the large landowners there signing up for refugee status. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year

Probably right.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1    last year
White supremacists gotta stick together...

Trump feels superior to everyone and everything which aligns perfectly with his followers' deep roots believing themselves superior based on their white ancestry and Anglo-Christian Protestantism. Everyone else, even those that shared their Christian religion but were from different cultures or races, are considered inferior and something to be held at arm's length for fear of losing their own white confederate Christian superiority and culture. They have decided that there simply is no room left in America for those "others" that don't look like them or sound like them. But as soon as they hear about some white Christian farmers being discriminated against, well the gates swing open and they're welcomed with white, er, I mean 'wide' open arms.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1    last year

It finally happened.

We finally came upon a group of refugees the left doesn't want to let in.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.5  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    last year

Well, Trump's MAGA is not as colorblind as it likes to lie about it seems. 'Suddenly' Trump sees 'white people' in Africa crying and griping and he 'remembers' something of a soul and conscience! What bull.  

No one cares if good people come to this country. We simply do not want 'trash' and 'haters' from any country to come make our country fester and team with more hatred than we already experience here. 

BTW, Elon Musk is a big conspiracy-theorist on this topic of "White genocide" in South Africa. His father disagrees with in in this April 2025 article:

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‘Black people are peaceful by nature’ – Errol Musk on white genocide claims

Errol Musk, father of Elon Musk, says no ‘white genocide’ is happening in SA  , but if there was an attempt, white men would be ready.

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Errol Musk says president Cyril Ramaphosa wanted Elon Musk to endorse the ANC. Image: X

Errol Musk  , father of Elon Musk, has rubbished claims that there is a ‘white genocide’ happening in South Africa.

Last month, Errol’s son, who is the richest man on earth, wrote, “the legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims.” In an interview with Sizwe Mpofu Welsh on   SMWX  , Musk Snr stated that, to his knowledge, black South Africans were unlikely to engage in mass killings.

“I know the black people quite well. Every black person I ever met initially wants to si ‘hi’. I have never known one who is [grumpy], I’ve never seen that. The black people are by nature, are sort of peaceful people, so you’ll have to really put a fire under the average type of black people to make them do something stupid, you know,” he said.

Errol Musk said white genocide does not exist

Musk, however, expressed his concern about farm murders, revealing he was once attacked on a farm but managed to overpower the robbers.

“Look, the farm murders are no joke. I’ve been a victim once. I was on a farm where a gang came in and tried to kill me and my daughter, and I killed three members of the gang instead. So, ja not everyone is fortunate enough to have a little bit of training or something like that,” said the father of the world’s richest man.

Musk did warn that the white population could be under attack, and the white South African men would be ready to defend them before any genocide takes place.

“The other thing is that you must not misunderstand the white South African male. The white South African male is a very strong type of man, they are not your type of European wimps. Most of them have access to a lot of weapons and make sure they have them, and they know how to use them better than many in the world.”

Errol Musk warns white men will protect themselves from potential “genocide”

When asked about the political landscape, Musk said he was happy with the National Government of Unity (GNU).

“I think it’s good, I think it was a good move last year. I mean you need to involve everybody then you don’t sit with these situations. I mean in South Africa, in the last few years, I’ve noticed that white people don’t have to worry about whether the black population have nice homes…in the times gone by under the so-called apartheid system, we were all felt like we were responsible for providing decent schools, hospital to black people but now we don’t feel like that,” Musk said.

“Why should we feel like that? we work for ourselves now.”

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    last year

Didn't see/hear anyone moaning/groaning 'bout the 500,000 Venezuelans given "status" since 2010.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.6    last year

Haven't heard much about losing their TPS  status as it winds through the courts either.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.8  Bob Nelson  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    last year

This morning there's a headline about Trump withdrawing the authorization of residency from some 10 000 Afghans, pretexting "normalization" in that country. Three remarks are obvious:

  • Many of these Afghans participated in OUR war in THEIR country, on our side. None of the South Africans currently being welcomed as "refugees" has done anything for America.
  • Afghanistan has not normalized, except in the minds of people who consider women to be chatel.
  • These South Africans are White. These Afghans are non-White.

Racism is an integral part of fascism.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.9  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    last year

And probably hate

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @1.1.9    last year

Yes.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.8    last year
Racism is an integral part of fascism.

It has replaced class as the tool for American Marxists.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.12  Bob Nelson  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.11    last year

"Conversations" with MAGA_True_Believers© here on NT have become a total waste of time. MAGA_True_Believers© almost never propose anything; they deny, deflect, derail. They waste everyone's time. I, for one, have decided not to let them waste any more of my time. From now on, I will simply copy/paste this in response to "standard" MAGA_True_Believer© Comments.

Be well.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.11    last year

It is just ridiculous to speak of Marxists as if there is some large contingent of people who are actively trying to destroy capitalism.   There are indeed Marxists, but they are so few as to be anecdotal.

 
 
 
CB
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1.3  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

Trump is as clear as a bell toning on his intentions to support white nationalists wherever they 'occupy.' That he has to lie on Black Africans and use their newfound status as a 'weapon' to provoke the world tells us all we need to know about this pretense (lie) of colorblindness in Trump's MAGA. Now they are trying to stir up international bull with Africans over and against Afrikaners. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2  Trout Giggles    last year
Despite one Trump official's claim that white South Africans have been given an exception to Trump's refugee ban because they would be supposedly easier to assimilate into the majority-white U.S. population than refugees from other countries, Grobler said that the cultural difference was still too great. "I don't want to speak English for the rest of my life," Grobler said. White South Africans typically speak Afrikaans, not English. But it seems that language barrier likely won't incense Vice President JD Vance the way it did when the hypothetical immigrant children he was mad at were brown.

Culture. You read that? Mr Grobler doesn't want to leave his home and come to America where he'll have to speak English for the rest of his life.Of course, JD Vance will think it's German

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    last year

He could speak Spanish.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    last year

[✘] They couldn't overlook a couple dozen White people and just let it go but they had to completely overreact and let their racism out for the world to see.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    last year

Women and kids too. Amazing.   Hardly ever see any but military aged young men storming our border to the embrace of progressives (though there are some children being trafficked too) 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    last year

Did the media networks now criticizing a few dozen South Afrikaners coming to the US legally as refugees have anything to say when AZ was overrun w/ thousands of African aliens crossing *illegally* every day in December 2023? Cause I sure didn’t see them down there covering it.

One of our live shots in Lukeville, AZ this morning. Masses of men crossing illegally from all over the globe. Trash everywhere. Horrific stench of human feces. None of the men we’ve spoken w/ today have been “asylum seekers”. They tell us they want work & opportunity i

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

That's pretty much what I assumed. Rich landowners/businessmen can simply hire some guns. 

I don't mind us taking in White refugees from SA... but doing so, while refusing non-White refugees from everywhere else just stinks of institutional racism.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @6.1    last year

Oh bullshit. How many non-whites have infiltrated the US and just got lost? At least there is a chance these people will be monitored, unlike those skipping court dates.

Seems it is their turn........and get back to us when the whites number in the millions. Until then, yourpoint is moot

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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6.1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.1    last year

18.8 Illegal Aliens - not counting those who have "slipped through the worm-hole" (not been caught) since 2020.

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.3  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.1    last year

So Trump is just getting 'retribution' (eye for an eye - in practice?) That would make the whole of the scheme petty, and those refugees should feel. . .'Used.' Chances are they will be dropped into this country and told to make 'do.' Like Errol Musk, father of Elon Musk, said he and his wife came to America with Elon and literally (his word) had to ESCAPE back to South Africa. In the video of his interview I posted, he stated he and Elon were estranged over his departure (back to South Africa) for a long time.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6.1.4  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.1    last year

"Conversations" with MAGA_True_Believers© here on NT have become a total waste of time. MAGA_True_Believers© almost never propose anything; they deny, deflect, derail. They waste everyone's time. I, for one, have decided not to let them waste any more of my time. From now on, I will simply copy/paste this in response to "standard" MAGA_True_Believer© Comments.

Be well.

 
 
 
CB
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6.2  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

Great video, informative, and positively to the point of this discussion! :)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    last year

Cool. So if we go to any country and just find a resident who says migrants from their country aren't real refugees, than it must be true.

It's not like anyone with a microphone can just find people to say the things they want.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8  Sean Treacy    last year
Someone  in the governing party writing ANC press releases has adopted the name “ Stalin " and is talking about forceful "transformation" of the refugees for stuff their grandparents did. Seems smart to help people freeing from that kind of oppression”

The fact that the governing party has a guy who calls himself Stalin is reason enough to provide refugee status let alone that he claims the refugees should be he held accountable for “historic privilege. “. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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9  Bob Nelson    last year

From NPR:

First Afrikaners arrive in U.S. under radically redrawn refugee program

512 The first group of White South African refugees arrived in the U.S. on Monday under President Trump's executive order mandating they be prioritized for resettlement — even as the broader refugee program remains largely on hold.

Newly arrived South Africans listen to representatives from Homeland Security and the State Department deliver welcome statements in a hangar at Atlantic Aviation Dulles near Washington Dulles International Airport on May 12, 2025 in Dulles, Va.
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The 59 Afrikaners, descendants of mainly Dutch colonists , underwent expedited reviews that took months, were brought to the U.S. on a government-chartered flight, and were greeted at Dulles International Airport by federal officials — all unconventional steps for the refugee resettlement program, which can take years to process.

Families on Monday arrived at the airport with their luggage; children donned pajamas and carried small American flags and stuffed animals as their parents walked them through a private airplane hanger. 

Troy Edgar, deputy Homeland Security secretary, and Christopher Landau, the deputy secretary of state, greeted the families, shaking hands and posing for photos. 

"Welcome to America," Landau told the families. "I want you to know that you are really welcome here."

But their admission to the U.S. has drawn scrutiny from resettlement agencies in the U.S., who've have faced sharp budget , resource, and personnel cuts since Trump took office.

Among his first executive actions, Trump temporarily paused the refugee resettlement program. Various agencies including the State Department have also paused disbursing funding for critical services such as the home, job and school assistance the Afrikaners are poised to receive.

The pause sent the refugee resettlement agencies into turmoil as refugees already cleared to arrive in the U.S. received notice their flights had been cancelled.

Among those left in limbo were Afghans who worked with the U.S. military , a move that some Republicans have criticized. Judges have ordered the government to at least resume the refugee program for those who had already been approved to travel, but the administration is fighting the court order .

When asked whether the administration would reopen the broader refugee resettlement program, Landau told reporters it was "still an ongoing consideration."

"Some of the criteria are making sure that refugees did not pose any challenge to our national security and that they could be assimilated easily into our country," he said about the decision to let in Afrikaners.

Episcopal Church ends refugee partnership

The Episcopal Church on Monday announced it would terminate its partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners.

Episcopal Migration Ministries said it had been notified by the federal government that it was expected to resettle some of the refugees.

"It has been painful to watch one group of refugees, selected in a highly unusual manner, receive preferential treatment over many others who have been waiting in refugee camps or dangerous conditions for years," wrote Most Rev. Sean Rowe, the presiding bishop of the church, adding that others including the Afghans and Christians fleeing persecution have been denied refuge.

Trump, his South African-born adviser Elon Musk, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio have all been vocal about what they say is persecution Afrikaners — many of whom are farmers — face in South Africa.

"What's happening in South Africa fits the textbook definition of why the refugee program was created," Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller told reporters last week. "This is persecution based on a protected characteristic, in this case, race. This is race-based persecution."

Miller doubled down on the administration's efforts to limit the broader refugee program.

"The U.S. Refugee Program has been a catastrophic failure," he said of past administrations' application of the program. Trump's changes, he continued, are "an example of the president returning the refugee program to what it was intended to do."

More Afrikaners eligible for resettlement

On Monday, the U.S. Embassy and Consulates in South Africa published a notice about the refugee admissions program for "for Afrikaners and disfavored minorities in South Africa who are victims of unjust racial discrimination," indicating this cohort is the first of more to come.

"Today, the United States sends a clear message, in alignment with the administration's America First foreign policy agenda, that America will take action to protect victims of racial discrimination," State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce said in a statement.

To be eligible for resettlement consideration individuals must be of South African nationality, be of Afrikaner ethnicity or a member of a racial minority in the country, and must be able to articulate a past experience of persecution or fear of future persecution.

One of the agencies assisting with resettlement is the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants. They are providing services to 14 Afrikaners across Idaho, Iowa and North Carolina.

"We'll continue to do our part regardless of country of origin," Eskinder Negash, USCRI President and CEO, said in a statement to NPR. "We are hopeful that the arrival of this group of refugees indicates the government's intention to restart the U.S. refugee program and help other refugees in need of resettlement services."


This is fabulous! White South Afrikaners - who have never lifted a finger to help American - get flown in at US government expense, while brown Afghans who sided with the US during America's invasion of that country are being expelled. Blatant racism from OUR government .

 
 

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