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Trump calls for special prosecutor to investigate 2020 election

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  last year  •  35 comments

Trump calls for special prosecutor to investigate 2020 election
“Biden was grossly incompetent, and the 2020 election was a total FRAUD! The evidence is MASSIVE and OVERWHELMING,” Trump posted. “A Special Prosecutor must be appointed. This cannot be allowed to happen again in the United States of America! Let the work begin!”

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Trump seeks special prosecutor over unfounded election claims

President Trump on Friday called for a special prosecutor to be appointed over unfounded claims that the 2020 election results were fraudulent.

Trump posted on Truth Social that he had all but eliminated illegal border crossings, compared to tens of thousands of migrants who came into the country each month under the Biden administration.

“Biden was grossly incompetent, and the 2020 election was a total FRAUD! The evidence is MASSIVE and OVERWHELMING,” Trump posted. “A Special Prosecutor must be appointed. This cannot be allowed to happen again in the United States of America! Let the work begin!”

Trump lost the 2020 election to former President Biden. There is no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election, despite years of claims from Trump and some of his allies.

Numerous lawsuits brought after the 2020 election by Trump’s allies   were dismissed   by courts, including by judges appointed by GOP presidents. States like Georgia   conducted audits   of their 2020 results and found no evidence of fraud that would have altered the outcome.


Trump spent the weeks after the 2020 election pressing claims of widespread fraud, culminating in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol while lawmakers were certifying Biden’s victory.

Trump   was indicted   in 2023 by a Washington grand jury on charges stemming from his efforts to remain in power after losing the 2020 election. Those charges were later dropped after he won the 2024 election.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Are any of you NT MAGAs proud of this?

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Trump has had 4 1/2 years to present any "evidence"  and has produced zero.  Why do you believe a word this buffoon says? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

Biden won the election and Trump knows that.

But a lot of shenanigans, irregularities, and cheating was assuredly carried out by the Dems and their partners in crime, foreign and domestic. 

Trump is simply trying to dig up as much dirt on the lefties as possible to lay before the voters going into the midterm, particularly as it pertains to the DOJ, FBI, and foreign governments. Was there collusion with the CCP, for instance?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    last year
cheating was assuredly carried out by the Dems and their partners in crime, foreign and domestic. 

Assuredly? Let’s see some facts, evidence, proof, etc. Detail this vast conspiracy for us. Then explain why this massive, yet somehow invisible conspiracy machine managed to lose in 2024.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2  sandy-2021492    last year

Sounds like it's time for another lawsuit by Dominion.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    last year

And how much is that going to cost? That was 5 years ago! Jeez oh Pete! Get over it all ready! Wasn't that what they said to us in 2016?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year
That was 5 years ago! Jeez oh Pete! Get over it all ready!

His extreme narcissism will not allow him to "get over it". 

The question is, how many more millions of dollars will it take to assuage his ego?  Apparently 46 million for the "parade" was not sufficient.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1    last year

Well...it really was a piss poor affair

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    last year
it really was a piss poor affair

It was more than he deserved.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1    last year

his administration has already spent a billion dollars stroking his ego. I'm going to have so much fun chasing down maga scum in 4 years ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  seeder  JohnRussell    last year
Trump calls for special prosecutor to investigate 2020 election

Did John Durham get another job yet? 

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1  Hallux  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year
Did John Durham get another job yet? 

It morphed into Edward R Murrow.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @4.1    last year

lol

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5  Snuffy    last year

I don't know if a special prosecutor is needed here, but with all the information coming out about potential China meddling in the 2020 elections shouldn't it be investigated to find all the potential failures that opened doors for the meddling? Why wouldn't we want to better insure that future elections are better protected?

Just as important, isn't the FBI supposed to be a nonpartisan entity? Why would we not want to better understand what happened to help insure that future FBI leadership retain a nonpartisan view of the world?

FBI declassifies documents related to claims of Chinese election interference in 2020

FBI Ordered Destruction of Memo on Attempted Pro-Biden CCP Interference in 2020 Election | National Review

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1  Hallux  replied to  Snuffy @5    last year
Just as important, isn't the FBI supposed to be a nonpartisan entity? Why would we not want to better understand what happened to help insure that future FBI leadership retain a nonpartisan view of the world?

And Kash Patel is non-partisan ... /s

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Hallux @5.1    last year
And Kash Patel is non-partisan ... /s

Never said he wasn't so you can stop trying to put words in my mouth. But the more that comes out, it shows that Christopher Wray was very partisan. 

Do you want to continue down the path of an FBI director in the pocket of the sitting president or do you want the FBI to regain it's non-partisan approach and for the FBI to regain the trust it's lost?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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5.1.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Snuffy @5.1.1    last year

“…do you want the FBI to regain it's non-partisan approach and for the FBI to regain the trust it's lost?”

Of course.

But this undertaking promises to do just the opposite…another in a long line of endless endeavors to cast doubt on an unassailable result, to no one’s surprise and to no one’s benefit. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Snuffy @5.1.1    last year

So, you're going to attack Wray as very partisan, but want Patel, who is also very partisan, to head up an investigation of a case that's already been investigated and determined to be unfounded, and that's supposed to re-establish non-partisanship?

Do tell us how that works.

Because it seems that you're holding Wray accountable for partisanship, but trust Patel to investigate, and that's, well, partisan.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.3    last year

Do show me where I said that Patel should head up the investigation. All I said was that I wasn't sure if a special investigator was needed. If you think a special investigator will do a better job then I would fully support that. 

I never said that I hold Patel to be non-partisan, all I said was with the information coming out it shows that Wray was very much partisan to the Biden administration. Patel has given some indication that he is partisan also. 

Answer this. How can we ensure that the FBI is non-partisan without holding the leadership accountable? 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.5  sandy-2021492  replied to  Snuffy @5.1.4    last year
Patel has given some indication that he is partisan also. 

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Some.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  Snuffy @5.1.4    last year

Also, you're the one who brought up the FBI.  He's currently heading it.  So you propose another agency do the investigation?  Which one would you currently trust to be nonpartisan?

How can we ensure that the FBI is non-partisan without holding the leadership accountable?

We can't.  But both sides of the aisle are going to have to be held accountable, not just the one that appointed Wray (which also, incidentally, Comey, who was a Republican at the time.  How's that for nonpartisanship?).

I don't see Trump appointees being held accountable by his sycophants, either during his first term or this one.  I see his sycophants wanting to hold others accountable.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.1.7  Snuffy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.6    last year

Yeah, I mentioned the FBI because they're the group that has recently released all that hidden information to Congress that brought about this latest call to investigate the 2020 elections. I don't really consider most agencies nonpartisan and IMO that is a problem. But the FBI has been shown over the past several years that they are rather partisan in their approach to performing their duties. 

The only way I can see the FBI being successful in regaining the trust of the American people is to be very open and transparent. Washington has a habit of hiding away a lot of stuff under the guise of national security. This is something that needs to be avoided if the FBI can regain a reputation of non-partisan but I don't hold any real hope for this to happen.

I agree that both sides of the aisle need to be held accountable but without taking the party out of the equation I'm not sure how it can be done. The first allegiance of Congress is to their party because the party controls too much money and can primary the hell out of any Congressman who doesn't follow their direction. As the first order of business for any Congressman is to get re-elected, this is one hell of a nasty loop we're stuck in. The only way I can see to break this problem is with term limits but I don't see that happening without a constitutional convention and as the parties have great control at the state as well as the federal levels I don't think this will happen.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Snuffy @5.1.4    last year
Patel has given some indication that he is partisan also. 

WOW.. LMFAO!!!!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @5    last year

CBP Seizes More Than 4,300 Fake Driver’s Licenses From China | NTD

It is a leap of faith to suggest that fake ID's were sent to influence the election. 

More far right bullshit. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.2.1  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    last year

You should pay better attention to the detail of what you post. Your link states the fake ID's were seized last month. The links I posted stated the FBI had information on potential use of fake ID's from China being used in the 2020 election to garner mail-in ballots. 

The unsubstantiated claim promoted by Patel, which an unidentified confidential human source gave to the FBI in 2020, during President Donald Trump’s first term, asserts that the Chinese mass-produced driver's licenses to be used in a mail-in ballot scheme. Patel linked to an article written by John Solomon, whom Trump appointed alongside Patel in 2022 to represent him before the National Archives and Records Administration on matters related to his presidential records. FBI Director Kash Patel feeds 2020 election conspiracy theories with documents about unverified tip

As it states, this is an unsubstantiated claim. It's also possible that these were fake ID's to be purchased by college age people in order to get into bars. But I think it's important enough that it should be looked at to insure that (1) it was not an attempt by a foreign government to manipulate a US election and (2) to insure it doesn't happen in the future. With all the partisan bullshit that comes out daily, I think it would be a good thing to help make the election process a little bit more secure. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @5.2.1    last year
You should pay better attention to the detail of what you post.

LOL.  There is a reason why I posted news of other influxes of fake Chinese ID's. 

Where is the proof that they were related to the election?  John Solomon is a source that is barely better than worthless. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.2.3  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    last year

So rather than think that a suggested manipulation of an election should be investigated to ensure it does not happen again, you would rather attack the source. 

With this sort of partisan approach, we can never hope for a better country as nothing will ever get better. This country may just devolve to the old Miller Lite commercial. Hell, they can even shoot a new commercial getting Democrats and Republicans to line up on opposite sides of the Grand Canyon where they can shout slogans back and forth. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @5.2.3    last year

Oh please. We have been listening to this shit for the past 10 years. When is enough enough?  In 2016 Trump claimed there were millions of illegal votes against him. His own hand picked investigator found nothing. Same for 2020. He hired a firm to investigate voter fraud and they told him there was none. He tried to overthrow the electoral college vote anyway. 

Stop enabling this insanity. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.4    last year
We have been listening to this shit for the past 10 years.

Touche. Take it to heart.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.3  Tacos!  replied to  Snuffy @5    last year
potential China meddling in the 2020 elections

But ONLY the 2020 elections, right? All the other elections - 2024, 2016, and every midterm election that gave Republicans a majority in Congress - those were all fine, right? China just decided to take a break on those? Put their feet up and let democracy do as it will?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.3.1  Snuffy  replied to  Tacos! @5.3    last year

That is not what I said at all. They need to ensure that all elections are free from foreign government interference that changes the votes. 

This seed was about the 2020 elections, you want to talk about other elections start your own seed. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Snuffy @5.3.1    last year

I notice you deflected and didn’t care to answer the question, so I will ask it again. Should we look at other past elections? Or just 2020? Why or why not? Answering that doesn’t require another seed.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.3.3  Snuffy  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.2    last year

Not my issue that you don't comprehend the answer. Let me say it again.

This seed is about the 2020 elections. But they need to ensure that all elections are free from foreign government interference that changes the votes. 

As I'm not running that investigation and I don't believe you are running that investigation, then our opinion on what they should do and how they should do it means diddly squat. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.3.4  Tacos!  replied to  Snuffy @5.3.3    last year

Third time. Do you support investigating elections Republicans won in the years surrounding 2020? It doesn’t take a new seed. It just takes the courage to answer.

As I'm not running that investigation and I don't believe you are running that investigation, then our opinion on what they should do and how they should do it means diddly squat. 

You have no problem at all expressing an opinion on many other  topics for which you have no firsthand knowledge. But when your hypocrisy might be exposed, suddenly your opinion is irrelevant.

In fact, you already expressed the opinion that this particular investigation was warranted and invited others to agree with you. Your words:

with all the information coming out about potential China meddling in the 2020 elections shouldn't it be investigated to find all the potential failures that opened doors for the meddling? Why wouldn't we want to better insure that future elections are better protected?

Sure. Go ahead. But since Republicans did so well this time, maybe all those problems got fixed, eh? No need for an investigation if all we care about are protected elections. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.3.5  Snuffy  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.4    last year

[✘] YES I SUPPORT INVESTIGATIONS OF ANY AND ALL ELECTIONS WHERE THERE IS SUSPECTED MEDDLING BY FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO CHANGE VOTING NUMBERS AND AFFECT RESULTS AS IT IS IMPERTIVE THAT ELECTIONS ARE FREE FROM SUCH FOREIGN INTERFERENCE.[✘]

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    last year

This guy has a problem. Ok, he’s got lots of problems. 

 
 

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