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It's Paradise Lost as Climate Change Remakes Europe's Summers - The New York Times

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  john-russell  •  last year  •  65 comments

By:   Jason Horowitz (nytimes)

It's Paradise Lost as Climate Change Remakes Europe's Summers - The New York Times
As southern Europeans dream of fjords, the traditional hot spots and fixtures of travel agency package deals no longer seem so desirable. This past week, even though temperatures broke across much of the continent, experts and officials warned that the next heat wave would come soon, endangering vulnerable locals and making tourists question what they had gotten themselves into. Even activists seeking to free their cities from the scourge of overtourism saw no silver lining to the brutal...

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In peak vacation season, many of the continent's most desirable getaways are becoming places to get away from.

Increasingly frequent storms have washed much of the sand from the beach at Montgat, near Barcelona, Spain.Credit...By Finbarr O'Reilly For The New York Times

It's Paradise Lost as Climate Change Remakes Europe's Summers


In peak vacation season, many of the continent's most desirable getaways are becoming places to get away from.

Increasingly frequent storms have washed much of the sand from the beach at Montgat, near Barcelona, Spain.Credit...By Finbarr O'Reilly For The New York Times

Not so long ago, families coming to the shore in Montgat, Spain, just outside Barcelona, built sand castles, played paddle games and lounged around on the broad band of sand that was the picture of the European summer vacation. But now in some places, there is hardly enough room to put down a towel.

"From here to there," said Sofia Mella, 19, as she pointed far out to sea, "it was all sand."

Climate change is changing Europe into a summer paradise lost. Across Spain, Italy, Greece, France and beyond, sand-devouring storms, rising seas, asphyxiating temperatures, deadly floods and horrific wildfires have year after year turned some of the continent's most desired getaways into miserable locales to get away from.

As southern Europeans dream of fjords, the traditional hot spots and fixtures of travel agency package deals no longer seem so desirable. This past week, even though temperatures broke across much of the continent, experts and officials warned that the next heat wave would come soon, endangering vulnerable locals and making tourists question what they had gotten themselves into. Even activists seeking to free their cities from the scourge of overtourism saw no silver lining to the brutal conditions.

"It's hell," said Daniel Pardo Rivacoba, who lives in Barcelona, and who spoke for a group fighting overtourism — and its climate-change fueling flights. He saw the scorching sun not as an ally to keep the tourists away, but as a common enemy that will melt them both.

The scourge of overtourism in cities like Barcelona has amplified climate change and angered the locals

Last year, Mr. Pardo Rivacoba's group went viral by organizing demonstrations against overtourism that including spraying tourists with water guns. This year, he said, it was so hot that "we used the water guns on ourselves."


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Maybe they'll all immigrate to America. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

lol

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

I can't imagine anyone in britain complaining about a heatwave, or even sunshine for that matter on that soggy mess ...

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2.1  shona1  replied to  devangelical @1.2    last year

Morning...oh yes they do..hits 25c and they are virtually dieing in the streets as it is so hot!!..the Kiwi's aren't much better..I am walking around in a jumper and jeans and they are like aren't you hot?

When they migrate here which State do they head to... Queensland...

One of the warmest and most humid States then they sook about the heat, flies, snakes, crocs etc...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @1.2.1    last year

just put them on the ferry to tasmania and tell them to get off at new london ...

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2.3  shona1  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    last year

Apparently the Tassie Devil freaks them out even more...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @1.2.3    last year

... more than swimming back to oz?

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2.5  shona1  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    last year

They are doomed either way..😁

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  shona1 @1.2.3    last year

but they're so cute! They can't be all that bad. Bugs Bunny liked one

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2.7  shona1  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.6    last year

Evening...ahh yes I like the little Tassie beasties...they scream at night hence their name... the White convicts and settlers were terrified by them..

They are the only carnivorous marsupial in the world and their bite is extremely powerful...it can crush bone..so you do tend to keep your hands away from them..

Certainly not my photos...I value my fingers...what a cute button nose...

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Bob Nelson
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1.2.8  Bob Nelson  replied to  shona1 @1.2.7    last year

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2.9  shona1  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2.8    last year

Evening...ahhh music to Aussie  ears in Tassie..😊

No wonder it scared the crap out of the English..🤣

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.2.10  Bob Nelson  replied to  shona1 @1.2.9    last year

Yes. Soothing twilight sounds...  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  shona1 @1.2.9    last year

LOL!

My pigs used to make that sound when I was trying to herd them back into their pen

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.2.12  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.11    last year

I've heard that pigs will eat pretty much anything, too. jrSmiley_29_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2.12    last year

only if they're really hungry

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2.14  shona1  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2.10    last year

Morning... absolutely..🤣

You would drop right off to sleep after hearing that, when you have just stepped foot into the country in the 1800s...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    last year

Climate change is changing Europe into a summer paradise lost. Across Spain, Italy, Greece, France and beyond, sand-devouring storms, rising seas, asphyxiating temperatures, deadly floods and horrific wildfires have year after year turned some of the continent's most desired getaways into miserable locales to get away from.

More unsupported hysterical speculation and fear mongering. Here in Denver, it didn't get to 90 until June 14th, Highest temp so far this summer is 100, no new record. None of these supposed effects can be linked to climate change. The climate change cult is going to have to come up with better propaganda to be taken seriously

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Greg Jones @2    last year

Heat has killed people in Europe forever.  They just  don't do anything about it, like adopt air conditioning. It's not a new problem, but one that  gains more exposure because America essentially conquered "heat" as a problem decades ago (despite much hotter temps) while Europe lags half a century behind.  European stagnation means the problem won't get solved anytime soon, either. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @2    last year

I know that this is probably a waste of time, but as someone who taught earth science, let me explain this to you.

It is the whole planet (not just Europe) that is experiencing climate change. The earth has experienced a huge uptick in global temperature, as seen in this chart: 

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This is not a normal uptick for a short period, but it does correlate to the population growth and the use of fuels. This chart shows the earth's population over time:

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You will notice the global population reached 1 billion around 1804, and then experienced rapid acceleration, reaching 8 billion in 2022.

In 1900, the Earth's population was 1.6 billion, and not using fossil fuels. Looking at this chart, you can clearly see the huge uptick in temperature, which is abnormal for this short a period of time. Today, we are at 8.23 billion and beyond fossil fuel usage, feeding a population this size produces a huge amount of greenhouse gases from the animals we eat. We can't control feeding people, but what we can control is what kind of energy we use. 

You can not increase a population that much in such a small period of time and not expect an impact on Earth. It flies in the face of science, since we know that for every action we get an equal reaction.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.2.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    last year

thanx for this, as it is very illustrative to a native

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    last year

Of course it has gone up a whopping .8 of a degree in 175 years, we are in an interglacial period. Current sea level rise is about .13 mm a year. The subject has been fear mongered to death and fools calling it a crisis. The question remains, what can be done about it.

The reality of the situation is that fossil fuels remain relatively cheap, abundant, and reliable. The same can't be said of wind and solar. If it's a global problem, then there has to be a unified global plan of action, which doesn't seem likely or possible. The name calling and shaming of skeptics hasn't had the desired effect, so what's the next step.

“High Priests of Consensus Panic: The NYT’s Meltdown Over Scientific Skepticism” – Watts Up With That?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.2    last year

Those high priests were telling us that most of the east coast's beaches would be underwater by 2020. 

It's a great gig. It doesn't matter how many times they are spectacularly wrong, people will still unquestioningly believe them. It's a cult. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.2    last year

It has actually gone up 1.8°F, which is a lot for such a short period of time. And I've been to Alaska and was shocked at how much the glaciers have retreated. Just because fossil fuels remain cheap doesn't mean that they are good for us. Solar power is reliable, and there are new technologies that are coming along all the time. I don't disagree that it has to be global, but that doesn't stop the Western world to try and mitigate our impact. 

Btw, I checked out your site and it has a bias against anything to do with global warming, so holy confirmation bias. I am not an alarmist, but how many 100-year floods do we have to have in a week to get a reaction?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.3    last year

How many 100 year floods do we need in a week? It's like science denial has become a cult.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.5    last year

How many flood plains are there in the US?  If you do the math and understand how big the US is, you would expect "once a century" floods to be occurring multiple times a year in the US.  

It's not science denial, it's understanding math.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.7  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.5    last year

... it's the same cult.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.6    last year

Show me your information, and I'll show you mine. 

If you do the math and understand how big the US is, you would expect "once a century" floods to be occurring multiple times a year in the US.  

Correct, but not multiple times in a month.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.2.9  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.2    last year

So... you take your news from an openly climate-skeptical blog, rather than the New York Times? Do you realize how that choice makes you look to any sensible observer?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.2.10  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.3    last year

Great link you gave us, Sean.

Oh, wait... you didn't give us a link, did you...??

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Bob Nelson
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2.2.11  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.5    last year
It's like science denial has become a cult.

It's an obligatory sub-section of MAGA dogma.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.8    last year
Show me your information, and I'll show you mine

I asked a question. Not sure how I can show information for that. 

For purposes of this discussion, I assume its common knowledge that there are thousands of lakes, rivers etc in the US? Minnesota claims 10,000 on its own.  Simply acknowledging that there are a couple thousand in the entire US is enough to prove my point. 

but not multiple times in a month.

That's exactly how random distribution works. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.12    last year

Sean,

It is not the number of lakes, floodplains, or rivers that cause catastrophic effects. It is rainfall that is far beyond normal. 

but not multiple times in a month. That's exactly how random distribution works. 

While weather does work on random distribution, it also follows Chaos Theory. That being said, you are talking about forecasting, and I am talking about the frequency of events. The frequency of events has gone up. Since 2000, the number of events has more than doubled. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.13    last year
e number of lakes, floodplains, or rivers that cause catastrophic effects

Never claimed it was. It's the sheer number of floodplains that guarantees some of them will be going through once in a century floods. Each floodplain has a 1 in a 100 chance of going through a once in a century flood every single year.  With thousands of such areas,  each with a 1% chance.....

ou are talking about forecasting, and I am talking about the frequency of events.

I'm talking about frequency, not forecasting.  Every year America has, and always will have absent some continent wide drought, "once a century" floods. Some years will have relatively more. Some less.  Sometimes they will clump together. Sometimes they will be evenly distributed.  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @2    last year

Ummm... Greg...

Denver isn't in Europe. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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3  charger 383    last year

overpopulation is the root cause of this problem,

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  charger 383 @3    last year

Correct.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    last year
overpopulation is the root cause of this problem

No. 

Agronomists agree that the Earth can support at least fifteen billion people... IF RESOURCES ARE MANAGED CORRECTLY. The problem isn't too many people.

The problem is incompetent "leaders". 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.1    last year

Not so sure about that number. I highly doubt it, since we would use up every bit of land possible. 

Leaders are always incompetent.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.2    last year

I'm getting to like ChatGPT:

Then estimates suggest the Earth could feed:
🧑‍🌾 10 to 15 billion people, possibly more.

📊 Why That Much?

  1. Land and calorie potential:

    • The Earth currently grows enough food to provide ~2,800–3,000 kcal per person per day for over 10 billion people.

    • But ~30–40% of food is wasted, and a huge portion of crops (especially soy, corn, and grain) is used to feed animals or produce fuel.

  2. Plant-based diets are key:

    • Producing meat, especially beef, is incredibly resource-intensive.

    • A mostly vegetarian or vegan global diet could increase food availability by 2–3x, using the same land.

  3. Technology helps:

    • Vertical farming, aquaponics, desalination, and genetically optimized crops can boost yield, especially in poor soil or urban areas.

    • Controlled-environment agriculture reduces reliance on climate and seasons.


🚫 Current Reality (2025):

Even with 8+ billion people, we still produce enough calories globally, but:

  • Distribution is unequal

  • Overconsumption and waste are rampant in wealthy countries

  • Climate change and soil degradation are stressing the system

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.4  charger 383  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.3    last year

what about wildlife?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  charger 383 @3.1.4    last year

What about it? I don't understand the question. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.6  charger 383  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.5    last year

Wildlife also needs space 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  charger 383 @3.1.6    last year

... and... ? 

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.8  charger 383  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.7    last year

did the figures in 3.1.3 include wildlife?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.9  Bob Nelson  replied to  charger 383 @3.1.8    last year

ChatGPT is available to everyone.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.3    last year

It may be possible, but what about quality of life?

And yes, ChatGPT is cool.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.9    last year

Yes, and I used it and here is the response: 

🌍 Can wildlife coexist with 10–15 billion humans?

Yes, it’s possible — but only under certain conditions. It will require major shifts in how we use land, produce food, consume resources, and design cities.


🐾 The Main Factors That Matter:

  1. Land Use & Habitat Preservation

    • Agriculture is the #1 driver of habitat loss. As more people need food, forests and wildlands often get cleared.

    • Solutions: shift to sustainable agriculture, regenerative farming, protect natural corridors, and reforest degraded areas.

  2. Urban Design & Population Density

    • Sprawling suburbs destroy more habitats than dense cities.

    • If cities grow upward instead of outward, more land stays wild.

  3. Dietary Choices

    • Meat-heavy diets require vast grazing land and feed crops, reducing land available for wildlife.

    • A shift toward plant-based diets (even partly) frees up space and reduces emissions.

  4. Conservation Policies

    • Setting aside protected reserves, enforcing anti-poaching laws, and restoring habitats will be essential.

    • 30x30 Goal: Protecting 30% of land and oceans by 2030 is gaining momentum globally.

  5. Technology & Innovation

    • Precision agriculture, lab-grown meat, vertical farming, and synthetic biology may help meet human needs without encroaching on nature.


🔥 What Happens If We Don’t Change?

  • With business-as-usual models of consumption and land use:

    • Wildlife populations will continue to plummet.

    • Ecosystem collapse could threaten human survival too (pollinators, clean water, etc.).

I have to say, this does not sound great. Honesty, I feel that humans are a blight on the planet compared to other species.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.12  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.10    last year

It's a question of density. Java or Montana. 

The ChatGTP text seems to me to be pretty open. I'm too lazy to run the numbers. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2  Ozzwald  replied to  charger 383 @3    last year
overpopulation is the root cause of this problem,

Industrialization is the root cause.  Overpopulation is adding insult to injury...  A BIG insult.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2    last year

At this point, they kind of go hand in hand. Feeding a human population this big also causes problems.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.2.1    last year
Feeding a human population this big also causes problems.

Absolutely.  Growing population causes increased industrialization to meet their needs.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  charger 383 @3    last year

ive read overpopulation is popular in underpopulated areas, at least thats what the crowds would say, if they were populated enuff to gather...

i'm amazed how climate change is invisible, while destroying so much

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  charger 383 @3    last year

Overpopulation is only the root cause if climate change is a hoax.  If it is not a hoax the extreme weather will be the same no matter how many people are living there. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.4.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4    last year

its not usually considered extreme, unless us peasants inhabit the area and we or something we've built, is destroyed....

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.4.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4    last year

It's interesting how the word "extreme weather" has crept into climate lingo. 

How does extreme differ from severe

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.5  charger 383  replied to  charger 383 @3    last year

I think quality over quantity is better. 

 
 
 
George
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4  George    last year
The scourge of overtourism in cities like Barcelona has amplified climate change

Are we expected to take this article seriously with a line like this? Tourism now causes climate change? You just can't make bullshit like this up.....Or maybe you can, this author did.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  George @4    last year

I think that this article has it wrong. But we are experiencing global warming on a level not seen in human history. Articles like this do take away from the legitimacy of the real problem.

 
 
 
bccrane
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4.1.1  bccrane  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1    last year

global warming on a level not seen in human history.

In the past 800 ky the earth has seen this level of warming prior to each ice age.  The only way the sea levels will reach what they did prior to every ice age is Greenland and Antarctica will lose more of their ice sheets to gain the extra 25 ft. needed to start the next ice age, (btw, when I say the ice ages I mean the latest glaciations.  Some fool on another site started arguing with me that an ice age is actually when a continent drifts to one of the poles and a permanent ice sheet develops which had nothing to do with what I was explaining.)  The main reason we have no record of this is the ice sheets wipe away all the evidence of the colder latitude warm ups.

This all happens before an ice age, the colder latitude warming, the sea level rise, and the natural CO2 level rise with the warming.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bccrane @4.1.1    last year

You are correct that we are in an interglacial period, but we have been for a very long time. What is unprecedented is the sudden increase in temperature. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.2    last year

Yup. Geological time is very hard for us to apprehend.

 
 
 
bccrane
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4.1.4  bccrane  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.2    last year
What is unprecedented is the sudden increase in temperature. 

Is it?  We don't really know, because, as I have explained, the ice sheets of the ice ages melt away and take with them any evidence prior to their development and any record stored in them.  The Antarctic however stays pretty much the same no matter what due to it's a continent surrounded by water and under the influence of a constant albedo effect.

There are reports showing the decreasing albedo effect in the NH which stands to reason for to get the sea level rise to start the next ice age requires the Greenland ice sheets to do considerable melting as well as the rising sea levels causing Antarctic glaciers to increase their rate into the ocean. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5  Greg Jones    last year

The bottom line is, assuming that climate change is in fact real, there is not really anything we can do about it, other than adapt to what might happen Much of New York City's utilities and infrastructure lies several hundred feet below street level, so they need to plan ahead

 
 
 
bccrane
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5.1  bccrane  replied to  Greg Jones @5    last year

History has shown that the area of NYC will be under water as well as any other land within 25' of present, this happens prior to every ice age.  The good news is it won't last long underwater, but more bad news it will lose it's ports as the water will continue to recede as the ice sheets creep closer to NYC.

 
 

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