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Trump stumbles over his words when cornered by reporters on false ICE shooting claims

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  10 months ago  •  10 comments

By:   Matthew Chapman (Raw Story)

Trump stumbles over his words when cornered by reporters on false ICE shooting claims
An evasive Trump told reporters on Thursday that the American citizen shot and killed by ICE "behaved horribly," but stumbled when reporters pressed him harder.As news of the fatal shooting of an observer by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Minneapolis began to spark outrage and protest...

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An evasive Trump told reporters on Thursday that the American citizen shot and killed by ICE "behaved horribly," but stumbled when reporters pressed him harder.

As news of the fatal shooting of an observer by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Minneapolis began to spark outrage and protests, President Donald Trump took to his Truth Social platform to defend the officers' actions and falsely claim that the victim, Renee Nicole Good, was driving toward officers or even that an officer was hospitalized, none of which appears to be true from reporting or video footage.

New York Times reporters went on to confront Trump about these discrepancies on Thursday morning, and when put on the spot, he became evasive.

"She behaved horribly," said Trump. "And then she ran him over. She didn't try to run him over. She ran him over. I'll play the tape for you right now." Trump then had his assistant Natalie Harp bring over a laptop that played a slow-motion video of the shooting.

"With all of it being said, no, I don't like that happening," Trump added before the video played.

After Times reporters noted that the video didn't show any ICE officer being run over, Trump stumbled over his words, saying, "Well, I — the way I look at it — It's a terrible scene. I think it's horrible to watch. No, I hate to see it."

Trump's claims that the shooting was justified have been echoed by Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who said the officer "used his training to save his own life and that of his colleagues" from a woman who was "stalking" them.

The exact nature of what caused the officer to fire his weapon is not the only criticism ICE is facing; other reports have indicated the officers blocked a doctor who was on scene from rendering medical assistance after the shooting.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    10 months ago
After Times reporters noted that the video didn't show any ICE officer being run over, Trump stumbled over his words, saying, "Well, I — the way I look at it — It's a terrible scene. I think it's horrible to watch. No, I hate to see it."

Whoever was the reporter asking this question did a terrible job. They should have said, "Mr President why are you lying about this?"    The reporter would have become a national hero.  The media cant stop themselves from deferring to Trump. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    10 months ago

Factually AI Chat

. Independent video analyses contradict the administration’s framing

Multiple outlets that synchronized and analyzed footage from different camera angles concluded that the motorist was driving away from — not toward — the officer when shots were fired, and that the video does not clearly show an officer being struck by the vehicle, undercutting repeated claims by the White House that the officer had been run over  [1]   [2]   [4] .

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

AI chat is wrong.

This video clearly shows the LEO was hit, maybe not head on, but enough for the LEO to feel threatened. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.1  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @2.1    10 months ago
AI chat is wrong.

Hegseth, Nome, Trump, Vance and Sorter agree with you and nary a one has a reputation for believeability. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.1.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @2.1    10 months ago

I'll agree that from this angle, the agent was brushed by the vehicle, yet, from other angles, it appeared she was focused on the guy trying to rip her out her door, and quite possibly didn't even see the agent that shot her in the face. I saw NO evidence of her aiming at agents, i saw her partially blocking the street, and the vehicle before the agents SUV drove right around her.(it may have actually been the shooters vehicle that whipped around her) irregardless, there was no reason to jump in front of her vehicle, and or shoot her in the face. 

And definitely no reason for Noem and Trump to LIE about what happened!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.1.2    10 months ago

All of the cops there did not follow procedure, including the one trying to drag her out of her car. He should be fired. .   If the shooter goes to prison , which is far fetched given the Bondi DOJ, it will be because he fired two shots through the driver side window. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

Google AI definition -

AI accuracy  varies greatly by task and system, ranging from highly accurate in specific pattern recognition (like some medical screenings) to prone to errors, biases, and "hallucinations" (making up facts) in generative tasks , primarily due to reliance on imperfect internet data and its design to predict, not verify truth; users must always critically evaluate AI output and fact-check, especially for critical information, as it's not infallible.  

As bugsy states - there is clear evidence - CLEAR EVIDENCE - to those whose eyes aren't blinded by bias. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2    10 months ago

There is clear evidence the cop was not run over and he shot her twice through the driver side window. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    10 months ago

Is there a law that says it is ok to hit a fed with a car as long as you don't run him over?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3  Hal A. Lujah    10 months ago

Behavior and boating are now the metrics for capital punishment.

 
 

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