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The Perfect Target

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  10 months ago  •  29 comments

The Perfect Target
To hit the real MAGA sweet spot they needed a Democratic state with a large Black immigrant, Muslim community and Minnesota perfectly fits the bill. Add in the fact that the George Floyd murder, which sparked the BLM protests that the right wing is still whining about, and you have a perfect target.

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They’ve declared war on Minnesota:


The Trump administration announced that it would suspend funding of food stamps and other hunger relief programs in Minnesota just as a federal judge  blocked a similar effort  to freeze funding for social services amid allegations of widespread fraud in the state.

Brooke Rollins, the agriculture secretary, posted a letter addressed to Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota saying that she would suspend payment of $129 million in federal funding from the Agriculture Department, citing unfolding  investigations  of fraud in Minnesota’s social safety net, which have involved members of the Somali-American community.

In the letter, which included Trump-style insults to Mr. Walz and Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis, Ms. Rollins said the state government would need to provide “payment justifications” in the next 30 days for funding of services like food stamps to be restarted. It is unclear what that means, and the Agriculture Department did not immediately respond to a question on what information it was requesting.

It’s very interesting that they’ve decided to make Minnesota the example. It’s not as big a state as California or Illinois so that makes it easier. And certainly the Republicans want to take down Tim Walz.

But really it’s just about race. Many states have large immigrant communities but they want to focus on blue states (which means Ohio, for instance, isn’t really on the menu.) To hit the real MAGA sweet spot they needed a Democratic state with a large   Black   immigrant, Muslim community and Minnesota perfectly fits the bill. Add in the fact that the George Floyd murder, which sparked the BLM protests that the right wing is still whining about, and you have a perfect target.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    10 months ago

You do have to wonder why they are attacking Minnesota , which is normally somewhat off the radar. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    10 months ago

You do have to wonder why they are attacking Minnesota

The billions in immigrant linked fraud that caused a governor who was just on a national ticker to resign?  The Mayor who talks like John Calhoun? The voting laws that allow pretty much anyone to vote?  

The crazy thing is progressives look at Minnesota and think that's good governance. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    10 months ago

Wouldnt be all the dark skins?  You do have a leader who called Somalia a shithole country.  

Lets see, MAGA hates Omar, Walz, Frey, George Floyd, the city of Minneapolis, etc.  

I'm going with the theory in the seeded article. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    10 months ago

Those are great reasons to send in thousands of armed and masked federal agents.  Especially because there is a Mayor who "talks like Calhoun".

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    10 months ago
Wouldnt be all the dark skins?

What are you talking about?

You do have a leader who called Somalia a shithole country?

If it doesn't qualify as shithole country, what countries do? 

Do you think Minnesota is well governed? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.2    10 months ago
Those are great reasons to send in thousands of armed and masked federal agents

Yes, enforcing immigration law  in a state that declared itself a sanctuary state and lost billions in fraud and is the center of ring using taxpayer dollars to fund terrorism is in fact, a great place to enforce immigration law. You  understand firemen get dispatched to here the fires are, right? 

Especially because there is a Mayor who "talks like Calhoun".

Do you know who John Calhoun is ?   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.3    10 months ago

Calling Somalia a shithole country is in the same realm of invective as calling Renee Good  a "fucking bitch". 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.4    10 months ago

I know who John Calhoun is, of course.  It's questionable whether you do, although he would represent your philosophy with his defense of slavery and support for tariffs.  Very maga by today's standards.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    10 months ago
Calling Somalia a shithole country

So you agree Somalia is a shithole country but it's just not nice to say? 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    10 months ago
The crazy thing is progressives look at Minnesota and think that's good governance. 

The crazy thing is that people who call other people derogatory names while defending the Trump Administration cannot see the hypocrisy of their own statements.

$233-521   billion   per   year
The   April   2024   Government   Accountability   Office   (GAO)   report   estimates   that,   based   on   data   gathered   between   2018-2022,   the   federal   government   is   losing   $233-521   billion   per   year   to   fraud. Payment Integrity: Significant Improvements Are Needed to Address Improper Payments and Fraud | U.S. GAO
Lot's of that was inflated by the PPA frauds and forgiveness.
The billions in immigrant linked fraud...
Chump change compared to what native born Americans can steal.  The Somali's were amateurs.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.7    10 months ago

Why would it be appropriate to say?   If Hakeem Jeffries called some hillbilly county in West Virginia a shithole I dont think that would be acceptable either. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.6    10 months ago
I know who John Calhoun is, of course

Well I can't assume anything. People claim to know history and will claim someone someone who  died in 1830 was a  member of  Lincoln's Republican Party. The pervasiveness of historical ignorance is shocking.

hether you do, although he would represent your philosophy

See? you don't know he is. Because I don't think the mayor of Minnesota has the right nullify federal immigration law nor keep federal agents out of his city. Very insurrectionary.  Getting close to having to treat Minnesota like Eisenhower treated the south. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.8    10 months ago

Donald Trump is known to have committed fraud, but somehow that doesnt count. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.12  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.10    10 months ago
will claim someone someone who  died in 1830 was a  member of  Lincoln's Republican Party

You're the only one on here that I'm aware of who has ever made that claim, and you do it repeatedly.  You should study American history.

you don't know he is

I know exactly who he is.  It's very doubtful that you actually have any idea who he is, however, as I stated above, with his defense of slavery and support for tariffs, he would certainly represent your philosophy.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.8    10 months ago
Lot's of that was inflated by the PPA frauds and forgiveness.

Start by understanginf that the PPP loans were designed to be forgiven. IT was literally the entire point of the program. To claim that "forgiveness " is fraud could not be more wrong/ 

 The Somali's were amateurs.

Why would you think that helps your case? Do you get that we do not have to take immigrants? hy would we want to import more thieves who drain the treasury? 

By all means, do the math. Divide the billions stolen in Minnesota by the number of Somalis vs the amount of fraud you can document by the number of American citizens.  Although I'm surprised to hear. Just a few months ago progressives swore up and down there was very little fraud when DOGE was looking into it. I guess you came around to Elon's position that the government is completely rife with fraud. I guess we need DOGE more than ever. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.12    10 months ago
ou're the only one on here that I'm aware of who has ever made that claim, and you do it repeatedly. 

Wow you truly have no shame. Sad. 

t's very doubtful that you actually have any idea who he is, however, as I stated above, with his defense of slavery and support for tariffs, he would certainly represent your philosophy.

The amount of ignorance contained in each of your sentences is getting out of control. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.15  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.14    10 months ago
you truly have no shame

There is no shame in me pointing out that you keep mentioning that someone who died in 1830 was a member of Lincoln's Republican Party.  I have no idea why you repeatedly state that except that you apparently have limited or no knowledge of American history.

The amount of ignorance contained in each of your sentences is getting out of control.

That comment is an example of projection that is bordering on pathological.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.16  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.13    10 months ago
Start by understanginf that the PPP loans were designed to be forgiven.

They were designed to be forgiven under certain conditions . 

IT was literally the entire point of the program.

No the point was to provide payroll stability for small businesses, not members of congress or multiple millions to multinational companies who didn't deserve them.

Paycheck Protection Program (“PPP”) Loan Fraud: A Survey & Analysis of Recent Civil & Criminal Enforcement Outcomes | Benesch, Friedlander, Coplan & Aronoff LLP

Noted with Interest: PPP Hangover: Government Escalates Crackdown on Alleged PPP Loan Fraud


Divide the billions stolen in Minnesota by the number of Somalis vs the amount of fraud you can document by the number of American citizens.

What an assinine exercise in meaningless trivia....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.10    10 months ago

Mayor of Minnesota?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.18  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.17    10 months ago

Considering the spelling and grammar issues, that's just par for the course.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2  GregTx    10 months ago

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Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    10 months ago

They (whoever 'they' are) are targeting the Twin Cities, not Minnesota.  And this explains why:  

Minnesota is actually Trump country, except for the urban islands.  And the urban islands only vote Democrat because that's the closest to a left wing party they have.  The urban left wingers complain about the cost of energy but won't allow wind farms in their pristine urban landscape.  The ICE goons are staying away from Minnesota farms.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @3    10 months ago
Minnesota is actually Trump country, except for the urban islands. 

According to AI Minnesota is about 30% rural, I guess that leaves 70% metropolitan. Pretty big islands. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    10 months ago
According to AI Minnesota is about 30% rural, I guess that leaves 70% metropolitan. Pretty big islands. 

Well, whoopie dumpty doo.  Minnesota outside the urban areas is still Trump country.  Or was.  The ICE deployment has been concentrated in the Twin Cities.  So, the Trump administration is targeting the Twin Cities and not Minnesota.

 
 
 
zuksam
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4  zuksam    10 months ago

80% of Minnesota's population is urban, 1000 or more people per square mile is the threshold for what's considered urban. So most of Minnesota's land is not urban in fact very little.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  zuksam @4    10 months ago

Very interesting notions...

80% of Minnesotans are urban... but Minnesota is not urban. How does that work? A glance at the map below shows exactly what you are saying.

Semantics! Is "Minnesota" a defined area of land? Is "Minnesota" the people who live there?

Who is a "Minnesotan"? Someone who lives in St Paul... or someone who lives a few miles from the Canadian border?

Interesting notions...

Good demonstration of how two people may understand very different things with the same word.

 
 
 
zuksam
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5  zuksam    10 months ago

Minnesota_population_map.png

 
 
 
Hallux
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6  Hallux    10 months ago

Minnesota is ... so Canadian.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Hallux @6    10 months ago
Minnesota is ... so Canadian.

Pretty much.

 
 

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