Trump & ICE to the rescue.

Chalk up a PR win for the President.

Perhaps you should wait before making unfounded claims.

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Why do that. 

TSO workers require 2-3 weeks intensive training after which they are paired with experienced officers for several weeks. 

What does that have to do with my statement? 

Anyway, are you saying you have proof that no training was conducted?  Or are you just saying it for the sake of saying it, you know, "making unfounded claims".

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So ICE now cross-trains as TSA? Seems they don't get enough training as ICE as it is.

So ICE now cross-trains as TSA?

You act like cross training has never been done before.

Seems they don't get enough training as ICE as it is.

That's one opinion.

No matter what, Trump supporters praise this guy as if he were a superhero.

In this case he gets two thumbs up.

One for solving the airport congestion 

And another for screwing the dems

solving the airport congestion

Nothing shooting a few citizens won't help.

screwing the dems

The reactionaries' wet dream.

One for solving the airport congestion 

You presume success when the likelihood is failure.

And another for screwing the dems

The loud announcement that your top priority is "screwing the dems" when it should be what is best for the nation.

says a lot about the commenter

Shades of Reagan when he shit canned 12000 union air traffic controllers in 81.     The left told us that was the end of the world as well and yet.     Everything turned out fine.

Similar situation here.

Do you have to check bullet proof vests or are they now a "wear-on item"?

Everything turned out fine.

Tell that to the families of the two Air Canada pilots who died the other day. The LaGuardia airport only had 1 controller on shift that night. 

but but according to Duffy there were the appropriate amount of controllers on duty that night!

of course he was lying

he LaGuardia airport only had 1 controller on shift that night. 

No, there were two as required for the midnight shift.

The LaGuardia airport only had 1 controller on shift that night. 

Do you have proof from a reliable source of this claim?

No, there were two as required for the midnight shift.

Either the news last night misreported, or I misheard (it could have been either one). I've looked it up and Reuters confirms your two, so there's that, but it also said they were doing four different jobs, there is still a shortage of ATCs and two people are still dead.

but it also said they were doing four different jobs,

Two each or four each, the one who said "I messed up" was controlling landings and takeoffs which isn't all that hard being as there should only be one on the runway at a time, and the other was, I believe, controlling the taxiways and incoming holding patterns and outgoing flights.  As for the collision, there is something missing here, the emergency vehicle operators that shouldn't have just taken the controllers word for it and actually looked, it seems it would be hard to mistake the landing lights of a jet coming in.

The left told us that was the end of the world as well and yet.     Everything turned out fine.

Sure, everything is fine.

America hasn’t had enough air traffic controllers for more than a decade – and the recent government shutdown might have made it even worse.

The stress of not being paid for those 44 days, on top of already harsh working conditions, spurred many to leave the workforce, according to Nick Daniels, president of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, the union representing controllers.

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said it also prompted many to retire early.

Replacing them could take years – and the shutdown underscored the stakes when the country lacks controllers:   canceled flights , delays and an even more miserable travel experience overall.

Daniels wouldn’t estimate the number of controllers lost, referring CNN to the FAA. The FAA did not respond to CNN’s inquiry about the issue.

“Just even losing one is too many, but I can’t even fathom how many were lost during the time,” Daniels told CNN Friday.

Thousands more controllers needed

The FAA currently has about 11,000 certified controllers working and estimates it needs 3,000 more. That means hiring more than 6,000, though, to make up for expected departures.

Increased retirements and resignations during the shutdown will make filling that gap more difficult.

Duffy admitted as much at a press conference shortly before the shutdown ended in which he disclosed the increase in retirements during the shutdown.

“Long after you all finish covering the shutdown, we are going to be stuck dealing with this problem,”   he told reporters.

The government shutdown may have made it tougher to fix the air traffic controller shortage | CNN Business

Air traffic controllers in the United States have been working without pay for over a month during the federal shutdown. As “mission-critical” employees, certified controllers have been required to report to work while other government workers have been furloughed.

Controllers received a partial paycheck two weeks ago, but received their first zero dollar “paycheck” on October 28. Unable to continue working without pay for long, controllers will be forced to take leave or resign to find paying work.

Many controllers posted their $0.00 paychecks on social media, questioning how much longer they can last without pay. Some who worked through the last shutdown six years ago described how the higher cost of living is leaving them in dire financial straits much sooner this time.

As air traffic controllers take leave to find paying work, slowdowns and ground stops have plagued US airports. On October 31, there were many “staffing triggers,” meaning a warning about possible shutdown of services due to staffing, in many airports across the US.

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Sure everything is just fine, plenty of healthy happy not over worked ATCs'

An Air Canada  jet  carrying more than 70  passengers  collided with a fire truck while landing at New York's LaGuardia Airport late Sunday, killing the pilot and copilot and injuring several others, officials said.

Pilot, co-pilot killed after passenger jet hits truck at LaGuardia airport

On January 29, 2025, a  Bombardier CRJ700  airliner operating as  American Airlines Flight 5342  (operated by  PSA Airlines  as  American Eagle ) ^{[ b ]}  and a United States Army  Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk  helicopter operating as  Priority Air Transport 25   collided in mid-air  over the  Potomac River  in  Washington, D.C.  The collision occurred at 8:47 p.m. at an altitude of about 300 feet (100 m) and about one-half mile (800 m) short of the threshold of runway 33 at  Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport  in  Arlington, Virginia . All 67 people aboard both aircraft were killed in the crash, including 64 passengers and crew on the airliner and the three crew of the helicopter. It was the first major US commercial passenger flight crash since  Colgan Air Flight 3407  in 2009, and the deadliest US air disaster since the crash of  American Airlines Flight 587  in 2001. ^{[ 8 ] [ 9 ]}  This was also the third  hull loss  and first fatal accident involving the CRJ700 series.

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Some of history’s  worst aviation disasters  involved air traffic control deficiencies. Looking at case studies helps identify areas where better ATC policies and procedures could improve safety.

How Air Traffic Control Can Prevent or Contribute to Accidents – Personal Injury Attorneys in San Francisco – Scarlett Law Group

Sure, everything is just fine since the PATCO strike, just fine.../S

There are 4 seconds of silence after the second commend to stop. The driver apparently made a decision to accelerate which no doubt saved his life but condemned the pilots.

Who knows, they may very well say he saved the passengers lives.

Tell it to your Democrat congressman

You do know those air traffic controllers were fired nearly 45 years ago.    Right?    For cause, walking off the job in an attempt extort all air travelers.

Not surprising you hold PATCO in high regard when they caused their own demise.

Not surprising at all considering it was Reagan who did it.    The anti christ to liberals.

If I ever thought this country was a 'hot' mess its now. 'Open political warfare' is in full bloom between the parties . . . their is no room for the citizenry between these bull-headed so-called leaders. When do we get back to some peace between us? When do we get back to the middle of politics-where compromise resides?

You do know those air traffic controllers were fired nearly 45 years ago.    Right?

Yes, I can do the math. 2026 minus 1981 is 45 years. Hurah.

For cause, walking off the job in an attempt extort all air travelers.

They were a union, duh.  

Not surprising you hold PATCO in high regard when they caused their own demise.

Not surprising you just make shyte up as you roll along.

Not surprising at all considering it was Reagan who did it.    The anti christ to liberals.

The anti Crist to unions, maybe. And the ATCs then and now, never recovered

Warnings about safety at New York's LaGuardia Airport were stacking up well before Sunday's   deadly runway crash   that killed two pilots and injured 41 others. Anonymous reports filed to NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System over the past year describe controllers "pushing the line" amid intense traffic without offering clear guidance on aircraft in the vicinity. One pilot pleaded, "Please do something," after air traffic control cleared a departure while their aircraft was just 300 feet from landing on a different runway, per the   Guardian . The pilot said the plane ultimately landed in smoky, low-visibility conditions about "10 seconds after the departing aircraft crossed our path." The pilot said the airport was at times "starting to feel like [Ronald Reagan National Airport] did before the accident there"   in January 2025 . In a separate report, a pilot complained that they had been cleared to cross a runway, only to find a landing plane "seemingly headed for us." Those concerns, coming ahead of a low-speed   October collision   involving two planes at LaGuardia, now hover over the investigation into the collision between an Air Canada Express flight and an airport fire truck that had been cleared to cross the runway Sunday, then ordered to stop too late. A controller was later heard saying he "messed up" while managing   an earlier emergency , per   CNN . The National Transportation Safety Board is analyzing recovered flight and cockpit recorders and says the runway will stay shut for days. (This content was created with the help of AI. Read our   AI policy .)

Sure, everything is fine. /S

Tell it to your Democrat congressman

How about we all tell it to all of our Congressmen AND we stop shitting on collective bargaining as a general rule? 

controlling landings and takeoffs which isn't all that hard being as there should only be one on the runway at a time

are you an air traffic controller? I would never say a person's job is "not all that hard" until I spent a day in their shoes

I heard a guy on the news this morning that from now on he's only taking the bus

smart guy

Bottom line, Dems broke it, Dems bought it but will never take accountability for their partisan extortion tactics.

What happens now is on them.    Not 100% but damn close.

Sounds good.    We can do that right after collective bargaining stops shitting on the public paying their compensation packages.    

Sadly, the knife you are trying to wield cuts both ways.

I would never say a person's job is "not all that hard" until I spent a day in their shoes

Amen to that.  It can be 11 hours and 58 minutes of watching & listening to paint dry, interrupted by two sheer moments of terror on the runway with the lives of potentially hundreds of people in your hand. it isn't for the fait hearted.

However having said that, ATCs are stretched too thin because they are slaves to the TSA. they cannot unionize; they cannot walk out; they can only take leave 

(if allowed) or they must resign (if allowed).  They must take what ever shift they are assigned no matter how many hours.

This isn't a dream job with a path to becoming a millionaire or early retirement.

I have said the solution is obvious for the last 4 decades.  ATCS should all be active-duty military, reserves or veterans/retired.

And staff it like it was the tower on any active-duty AFB. Layered with redundance. 

Easy Peasy.

Bottom line, Dems broke it, Dems bought it but will never take accountability for their partisan extortion tactics.

Delusional Bubble.

The current POTUS is breaking things and using extortion every day.

6 months of shakedowns from America’s extortionist-in-chief

But the Dems....

Trump rejects off-ramp to fund DHS as airport delays worsen

Trump Killed TSA Funding Deal in Fiery Private Exchange With John Thune: Report

GOP blocks Democrats' bid to fund TSA, FEMA amid DHS shutdown

But the Dems..

The descriptions of snowflakes and who's a snowflake just changes too rapidly for any credibility claims by either party's partisan BS.

Opinions do vary.     Mine is that Trump didn’t start the fire with Iran.    That was started nearly 50 years ago.   Burning bright since.  

Biden did start the fire with the current illegal immigrant crisis.    Trump is just trying to clean up the clusterfuck Biden helped to create.

Opinions do vary. 

Naturally.

Mine is that Trump didn’t start the fire with Iran.     That was started nearly 50 years ago.   Burning bright since.  

No one was discussing Iran were they?  Another smooooth deflection?

Biden did start the fire with the current illegal immigrant crisis.    Trump is just trying to clean up the clusterfuck Biden helped to create.

The clusterfuck started around 1836 with the first Texas treaty with Santa Anna, complicated by incomplete treaties and recognition of the boundaries of Texas in in

1845 followed by Mexico ceding California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming and parts of Oklahoma and more. All occupied by native Americans and

their distant cousins, the Mexicans, a loose collection of different tribes from Central and South America. 

there were open borders for almost a century until the Bracero programs that allowed the seasonal Mexicans to stay in the USA throughout WWII from 1942 through

1964.

Texas was annexed as is in 1845, seceded and was readmitted by a Republican Administration with the same borders littered with generations old Mexican and Texican ranches all along the Rio Grand River.

When California was admitted to the Union in 1850 they at least imposed a 60 foot easement along the border for the military to guard the border.

In 1912  Arizona was admitted with the same easement.

Between 1892 and 1954 Ellis Island admitted 12 million immigrants who only had to arrive by boat and not be dying of some communicable disease.

They couldn't read, write or speak English, had questionable skills and did not need to apply for visas, green cards or prove they weren't communist terrorists or spies.

Not surprising that, since 1954, that a government dominated by two particular political parties, predominantly of white man and a few white women would start fussing about the "illegals" who were still somewhat legal until 1964.

In 1965 the government started the A_TEAM program for white teenagers to replace Mexican/Hispanic agricultural workers. 30,000 signed up, no more than 3,000 ever worked in the fields and most quit because of the conditions and pay scale, if they were paid at all.

So the "illegal" BS is mostly a contrived political boat for racism in the laws created by an overwhelmingly white government that was at the same time trying to bury Jim Crow and promote Civil Rights, but not for Hispanics.

They come in waves driven by the economy and crime factors in their own countries.

In a country that's only 250 years old we've had a self inflicted racist "attitude" for the past 60 years more or less, partially transferred from another group of minority immigrants with no real end in sight.

Trump, the epitome of biases and lawlessness is not the person who will eventually fix any of these issues, he only exacerbates them.

If there truly is a judgement day, his won't be pretty.

Naturally.

Indubitably 

No one was discussing Iran were they?  Another smooooth deflection?

Well damn son.    You’re the one talking about the last six months.    Iran happen in the last six months did it?

The clusterfuck started around 1836 with the first Texas treaty with Santa Anna, complicated by incomplete treaties and recognition of the boundaries of Texas in in

1845 followed by Mexico ceding California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming and parts of Oklahoma and more. All occupied by native Americans and

their distant cousins, the Mexicans, a loose collection of different tribes from Central and South America. 

there were open borders for almost a century until the Bracero programs that allowed the seasonal Mexicans to stay in the USA throughout WWII from 1942 through

1964.

Texas was annexed as is in 1845, seceded and was readmitted by a Republican Administration with the same borders littered with generations old Mexican and Texican ranches all along the Rio Grand River.

When California was admitted to the Union in 1850 they at least imposed a 60 foot easement along the border for the military to guard the border.

In 1912  Arizona was admitted with the same easement.

Between 1892 and 1954 Ellis Island admitted 12 million immigrants who only had to arrive by boat and not be dying of some communicable disease.

They couldn't read, write or speak English, had questionable skills and did not need to apply for visas, green cards or prove they weren't communist terrorists or spies.

Not surprising that, since 1954, that a government dominated by two particular political parties, predominantly of white man and a few white women would start fussing about the "illegals" who were still somewhat legal until 1964.

In 1965 the government started the A_TEAM program for white teenagers to replace Mexican/Hispanic agricultural workers. 30,000 signed up, no more than 3,000 ever worked in the fields and most quit because of the conditions and pay scale, if they were paid at all.

So the "illegal" BS is mostly a contrived political boat for racism in the laws created by an overwhelmingly white government that was at the same time trying to bury Jim Crow and promote Civil Rights, but not for Hispanics.

They come in waves driven by the economy and crime factors in their own countries.

In a country that's only 250 years old we've had a self inflicted racist "attitude" for the past 60 years more or less, partially transferred from another group of minority immigrants with no real end in sight.

Trump, the epitome of biases and lawlessness is not the person who will eventually fix any of these issues, he only exacerbates them.

If there truly is a judgement day, his won't be pretty.

Well now, who’s the one really hopping on the way back machine.     I’m not proficient in that new math like some of you here but by my calculations 1836 is a little longer than six months ago.    You can keep trying to gaslight Bidens border clusterfuckery away but only the dim will buy it.    His open door policies let in exponentially more jail trash than the previous Dem admin record holder.    The Mariel Boatlift jail break when Castro emptied his jails on another dim Dem Presidents watch.

Judge not lest ye be judged.

Trump’s 2025 Gains Approach Combined Presidential Wealth: A Historical Analysis

The mathematical reality is stark: Trump’s 2025 earnings rival, and by some calculations may exceed, the combined net worth of every other U.S. presiden t who served before him; a consolidation of presidential wealth without historical precedent.

ournationalconversation

Astonishing, how you can see the policies of any democratic party leader/s does as from hell - and yet overlook the tactics and strategies used by this president to amass greater wealth while a PUBLIC SERVANT. In case you miss that. . . Trump: The public servant. . . not.

If we are going to be true to discussion, then we need to take a full view of this!

Stop trying to tell us what we miss (we see it and weigh it-even when we can not do anything about it), while letting Trump get his repeat 'mulligan' from the so-called party of 'fiscal conservatism.' 

I’m not proficient in that new math like some of you here but by my calculations 1836 is a little longer than six months ago.

then you completely and unsurprisingly missed the point,

but only the dim will buy it. 

I have much more faith in the public that you apparently.

 His open door policies let in exponentially more jail trash than the previous Dem admin record holder. 

Which was who, in your esteemed opinion?

The Mariel Boatlift jail break when Castro emptied his jails on another dim Dem Presidents watch.

I have to admit, that was a surprising conclusion.  I thought much better of you. 

You appear to believe Castro's characterizations from 46 years ago when you were just a lad?

Castro left Mariel open for 5 months.

To strengthen this narrative, Fidel Castro forced boat captains arriving from Florida to the port of Mariel to take a small number of hardened criminals and individuals with mental health challenges . The majority were political prisoners detained for crimes against the revolution. All were placed on boats to Key West alongside thousands of ordinary Cubans. What’s clear is that all were seeking freedom. alongside thousands of ordinary Cuban citizens. These isolated cases unfairly overshadowed the tens of thousands who came to America seeking freedom and opportunity.

Read more at: miamiherald

SEEDS OF SUCCESS

Perversely, though, all the bad publicity generated by Mariel may have planted the seeds for the revival of Miami now in full flower.

The boatlift infused Miami, a place then derided by many as a cultural wasteland, with scores of artists, writers and musicians oppressed under Castro and now eager to practice their craft in freedom.

''After we got here, the art scene -- and South Florida's culture -- was greatly enriched by the artists, musicians and actors who came on those boats,'' said painter Andres Valerio, who came in the boatlift with his wife.

The film Scarface, and then the television series Miami Vice, glamorized the marielitos and the city's dangerous streets -- and helped lure visitors to nourish the revitalization of South Beach.

''It's a story about how something that was first viewed as negative by so many people ended up becoming something great for us. It made Miami a more cosmopolitan place,'' said Bernardo Benes, a Cuban exile whose controversial negotiations with the Cuban regime helped set the stage for the Mariel boatlift

Mariel: From turmoil to triumph

Judge not lest ye be judged, son.

Tell it to the folks affected by:

Key Consequences:

• Economic Impact: The influx of ~125,000 migrants added 7% more workers to Miami’s labor market. While overall economic damage was limited in the long term, studies by Harvard University economist George Borjas show a significant (10–30%) drop in wages for low-skilled workers (high school dropouts).
• Crime Increase: While many of the "Marielitos" were not criminals, the influx included convicts and patients from mental health facilities sent by Castro, leading to a spike in crime rates in the Miami area. Research indicates a 41% increase in murders and a 70% rise in robberies, respectively, which persisted until 1990.
• Social and Public Infrastructure: The sudden arrival strained public services, housing, and schools, leading President Jimmy Carter to declare a state of emergency.
• Social Tension: The influx caused tension within the existing Cuban American community and wider US society, exacerbated by the media focusing on the criminal element.

Your comment has been judged and found wanting.   Very wanting.

"WASHINGTON – On March 25, 2026, an Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent helping to support Transportation Security Administration (TSA) operations at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York jumped into action to help save the life of a one-year-old child experiencing a medical emergency. 

The heroic actions of this officer began when a one-year-old child became unresponsive in the arms of his father,  unable to breathe for almost two minutes.  CCTV review shows a passenger in a TSA Precheck line holding his one-year-old in his arms when the child’s arms go lifeless; panic ensues, and the father is seen scrambling around the area, and calling for help.  

The agent working at his post, heard the screams from the father and other passengers and sprinted to the scene. The father handed the child to the officer, who then assessed the unresponsive child and began performing the Heimlich maneuver. After a few seconds, the child started breathing again. EMS personnel arrived on scene with medical equipment to further monitor and re-assess the child. The child was re-assessed and determined to be healthy enough to fly. "

  BEST OF THE BEST: ICE Officer Saves One-Year-Old Child’s Life at JFK Airport | Homeland Security

For a good deed we give thanks and applause, period. Best of the Best-indeed! 

It rises as an obligation for those professionally trained to use their life-saving training to benefit society. . . and those that are in desperate need of aid where and when necessary.

Unfortunately, I am left to wonder, if this officer was a known liberal, if MAGA supporters would withhold recognition of the good done and keep silent.

Yes, Vic, there are good people in every job.   

It is never valid to take a data point and extrapolate to a statement of truth about the whole.   That is known as the generalization fallacy.

So ... let's apply this.   Not all ICE agents are killers, but some demonstrably are.   And there are of course (on the other extreme) altruistic, honorable ICE agents.  

That is how human diversity works in large groups.

Tell it to the folks affected by:

Name one disaster that hasn't negatively affected the people in the area. Katrina?  The Palisades fire? NYC with Ellis Island open for 60 plus years?

The Mariel Boatlift people were not restricted to settling in Miami, that was their choice.  I find the deflection as a cheap shot against a Dem POTUS just another weak attempt to change the topic.

Your comment has been judged and found wanting.   Very wanting.

I tried to be objective. I listed articles that agree with everything you listed but also found that 10 years later Miami had a complete cultural shift in the right direction.

You on the other hand twist everything into negative partisan politics and pretend to be "all knowing and on the winning side".

Congratulations you got votes from the usual crowd because "you told him".

 Your comment has been judged and found wanting.   Very wanting.

You aren't old enough to judge me but keep flattering yourself. They say the internet is forever and unforgiving. 

Surely an ICE officer couldn't be a known liberal? Or could they?...

You aren't old enough to judge me but keep flattering yourself. They say the internet is forever and unforgiving

LOL, thats good. Is there a height requirement as well?....

BYH

Up until a decade or so the democrats  routinely attacked republicans from the right on immigration.  But then new talking points got downloaded and suddenly the vast  majority of liberals completely abandoned their previous principles.  It would make sense that Some of the few who don’t simply believe what the party tells them to believe remained in immigration enforcement. 

Unfortunately, I am left to wonder, if this officer was a known liberal, if MAGA supporters would withhold recognition of the good done and keep silent.

That is what I wrote. So since you volunteer to comment I can ask you directly:

If an ICE officer is a known liberal in a democratic administration and saves a life of a young American. . . do you think this article would be here heaving praise and applause upon him or her?

Of course, liberals like to eat and prosper too. All things being equal even liberals might try to stick around when the 'chips are down' in governance and policy controls. It's called: Survival. It's called: Continuity. 

That said, If an ICE officer is a known liberal in a democratic administration and saves a life of a young American. . . do you think this article would be here heaving praise and applause upon him or her?

Oh, and go ahead be 'nice' and say that you would because, well. . . "ICE" is ICE first. (We will know its just a line, however.)

Incidentally, isn't being an identifiable liberal a firing "offense" in a MAGA supported 'world'?

Schumer slammed the decision, saying: "This is really disturbing. ICE agents who are untrained and have caused problems everywhere they've gone, lurking at our airports. That's asking for trouble, and it will certainly make the chaos at the airports even worse."

One of the people that caused this to happen is suddenly upset?  I guess chucky and the rest of the bumbling jackasses didn't think things through (again).

I have a heavily left leaning friend who is all up in arms over this.    You see he’s traveling abroad this week and he’s Micronesian.    I suggested he not worry about it until (if and when) something happens.    Then I reminded him he had my number, to call anytime and I would be there if needed..

The machine is brainwashing more and more people these days.    To a point of mass hysteria.

I will put 20 bucks up that says lunatic leftists will show up to these airports and block the TSA line to protest ICE being there and when they get carted off in handcuffs they will claim ICE assaulted them, no matter if it were ICE or airport authorities…..and the bobbleheads will nod in unison.

No bet.    

One other thing I asked him.    Do you have your TSA precheck?    He sez no, so there you go.    I spent an hour and a half years ago in a Philly airport TSA checkout Bataan death march.    Never since, because I got my TSA precheck.

Very doubtful folks with the precheck will be hassled or wait three hours.    Regardless of who is checking them in.

I have no problem with ICE being there but you can be rest assured there will be leftists there to protest them and the lines will get even more delayed as security boots them from the airport. Precheck is a good thing and gets you a little separated from the main line.

I will put 20 bucks up that says lunatic leftists will show up to these airports and block the TSA line to protest ICE being there

I have a feeling Americans trying to make a flight are not going to stand still for the lunatics shenanigans. 

Well, I was close.

In San Francisco, ICE was at the airport for immigration services and not to assist TSA. In SF, the airport uses private security and not TSA, and their lines have been clocked at 2-3 minutes while airports like Atlanta is at 3-4 hours.

As ICE was arresting an illegal and her daughter, a harpy AWFL, jumped in the fray demanding badge numbers, etc.

This idiot should have been arrested for obstruction.

The funny thing is, the original post was by a democrat pedo that is mad one of his possible victims was snatched from his grasp. 

Sen. Scott Wiener Says ICE Was Terrorizing a Mother at San Francisco Airport; DHS Says Otherwise – Twitchy

Huge gamble.  Trump likes the confrontational politics.  But it will only take one ICE screw up for the whole thing to blow up.  An ICE agent becoming too aggressive and creating a situation that forces evacuation of a terminal won't be a good look.

But it will only take one ICE screw up for the whole thing to blow up

Therein lay the problem.    Only one …. It only takes one.    Never mind the thousands, millions of fine interactions.    We are going to spaz out if there is only ONE bad one.

Thus defines the deluded left.

Therein lay the problem.    Only one …. It only takes one.    Never mind the thousands, millions of fine interactions.    We are going to spaz out if there is only ONE bad one.

Would you prefer a rephrasing?  It will only take any ICE screw up for the whole thing to blow up.

ICE trashed its own reputation.  So, ICE created a low bar for screw ups.  Deploying ICE in their masks and paramilitary uniforms to perform airport screening is not going to rehabilitate their reputation.  Any screw up blows up the whole thing.

Exactly.   The mass media and TDS afflicted trashed ICE reputation in a similar fashion.    A few errors by comparison will be concentrated on, repeated over and over, put on protest signs all over the country, etc, etc.

This game plan only works on useful idiots.    Unfortunately there seems to a ready supply of those these days.

Exactly.   The mass media and TDS afflicted trashed ICE reputation in a similar fashion.    A few errors by comparison will be concentrated on, repeated over and over, put on protest signs all over the country, etc, etc.

The MSM did not force ICE agents to fire weapons at each other, violate the most basic police procedures, break down doors to detain the wrong people without arrest, destroy private property on a whim, or attempt to invade a foreign consulate.  These were all unforced errors by ICE.

This game plan only works on useful idiots.    Unfortunately there seems to a ready supply of those these days.

What does that say about those excusing the unprofessional, incompetent performance of duties by ICE?

I’m not excusing shit.    I’m just not overreacting to a minority of the same ICE interactions like triggered do.    Again and again and again and again ….. ad nauseam

That’s what it says about it.

This airport deal will go down the same path.    The fix is already in.    Anyone paying attention can read the game-plan.    Anyone who isn’t a totally triggered dimbulb that is.

This airport deal will go down the same path.    The fix is already in.    Anyone paying attention can read the game-plan.    Anyone who isn’t a totally triggered dimbulb that is.

The airport deal looks like ICE agents wandering around airport terminals in 'roaming patrols'.  Or just standing around.  They're not actually doing anything to alleviate the shortage of TSA agents.  

Another case of Trump being all smoke and no BBQ.

Yeah and all the left wings worry is mostly triggered buffoonery.     Amazing how the their plan of a completely open border has morphed isn’t it?

We will let millions of illegals in and then bitch endlessly about the steps required to remove them.    Special place in hell for the folks who set this shit up.    Very special and hotter.    Much hotter than everywhere else.

So you see the cold-blooded murder of two innocents to be "a few errors"?

Absolutely nothing fully innocent about either one of them.

I have observed that the 'mouth diapers' are off ICE faces in the airport. So, that is a good thing. We can see their beautiful human faces!  That 'humanizes' the agents. May it cause them to act better and prove the point that COMPROMISE with the citizenry can be good all around?

(Remember this: In 2020 Covid 'era' years, conservatives mocked masks as "mouth/face diapers"? It would be remiss to not point out the self-serving tendencies displayed on the Right. When a mask is something the Right wants for its purposes-it's A-OK! When it is a liberal wants for medical purposes: "Face diapers"!)

I did not mean to go political in this comment, I am compelled to point out this obvious 'effect.' Also, we can see the manipulation at work. . . apparently when there is not any 'ass-kicking' and 'butt-stomping' or murderous tendencies 'ordered up' - ICE agents can 'Smile' to the public!

Seems you didn't watch the videos.

Neither of them deserved cold blooded murder. 

With ICE at airports, won't be flying anytime soon. Spent too many years as a bouncer to put up with bullies. Especially fascist murderers.

‘Seems you didn't watch the videos.’

Seems you saw what you were told to see.

‘Neither of them deserved cold blooded murder. ’
If both stayed out of ICE business, they would be alive today. They caused their own demise.

‘With ICE at airports, won't be flying anytime soon’

I’m sure ICE will be very disappointed. S/

ICE is well-trained to perform the duties of TSA agents; this is one of their core competencies.   

A calming, competent force that can step in and make things run smoothly.

Even if they knew nothing, how long do you think it will take them to learn how to scan luggage and observe passengers?

4 to 6 weeks for those who take it seriously, 2 to 6 minutes for those who do not.

You think scanning luggage is something one learns in an afternoon??

ChatGPT summary of the training:

Before a TSA officer can do actual baggage screening, they do more than a generic security orientation.

For a Transportation Security Officer (TSO) , TSA says initial preparation includes local training and then an immersive two to three week training program at the TSA Academy . TSA’s academy curriculum includes threat detection and resolution, screening of personal property, adaptive thinking, customer engagement, and standard operating procedures . TSA also says TSOs must retain and implement applicable screening SOPs as part of the job. ( Transportation Security Administration )

For the actual bag-scanning function , the officer is trained to operate checkpoint screening equipment and identify dangerous or prohibited items in baggage. TSA’s equipment pages describe checkpoint carry-on screening as using Advanced Technology X-ray and Computed Tomography , where officers analyze images on screen and, with CT, can rotate 3D images for closer inspection. That means the role involves specific training in image interpretation and threat recognition, not merely standing next to the machine . ( Transportation Security Administration )

The clean takeaway is:

• Yes, there is formal pre-duty training

• Yes, it includes specialized baggage-screening instruction

• No, this is not equivalent to general law-enforcement or crowd-control experience ( Transportation Security Administration )

One important contrast here: TSA’s Security Support Assistant (SSA) role gets lighter training and helps with checkpoint flow, bins, and moving baggage to and from X-ray conveyor systems, but that is a different role from a TSO actually performing screening. ( Transportation Security Administration )

ICE can direct traffic and other basic functions but they cannot just walk in and perform core TSA duties.

And no, ICE is not staffed with brilliant, quick-learners.    More like poorly-vetted and poorly-trained.

People act like any moron can be a TSA agent. They are underpaid and under appreciated and people should stop treating them like they are morons

Sadly for our nation, we have republicans that 'discount' everybody. . .hell, they even discount scientists and medical doctors - that make this nation. . .this world. . .what it is. If you do not tote water for MAGA. . . then you are at the mercy and abuse of MAGA supporters and Trump (the "KNOW_IT_ALLS")

Some folk never learn how to "read" folk.

Spent years as a bouncer and a paramedic.

Most times I just don't trust anybody.

Sad way to live but saves getting burned.

people should stop treating them like they are morons

someone made my point in thenewstalkers

Now you don’t have to wait for ICE to murder you in your home town, or possibly even your home - you can just get murdered in an airport by an untrained moron doing a different job that the one they weren’t even trained for in the first place.  

I'm not worried about ICE killing someone at the TSA lines. I'm worried about them fucking up the inspection process. 

Yes, some of those TSA screeners seem like top shelf folks. /s

Oh look! The 'new' strategy is to remove the mask, make eye contact, shake a few hands, and "smile" - not take anyone down on the platform. . .oh and help the elderly, hold and kiss babies when ever a 'burly' man or thick woman can. BRILLIANT (manipulation)! 

See? ICE is not so bad. They really are decent folks (when it serves their purposes)!

Finally, understand that conservative talking heads are carrying the MESSAGING on this on your evening news and ONLINE!!!!

Look at ICE, being all humane and sh-t to everyday people. (Lord, help that ICE agent that hones in on an illegal or questionable immigrant in a line. . . Dr. Jekyll's HYDE may get conjured up!

Delta suspended Congress special perks at airports.  Now that is a way to push Congress to ending the shutdown.  Hopefully more airlines will follow suit.  Hopefully it will become permanent.

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I hope they don't reinstate them after the shutdown is over. 

They keep saying they are the same as the people.  Time to give them a taste of what the people go through

Americans, y'all are being played. ICE has removed its masks! The question is what does ICE, Trump, the administration hope to gain from 'playing nice'? What is the 'agenda' now? Project 2025 is temporarily SUSPENDED until after the November 2026 midterms. Oh, and let's pass the SAFE ACT to suppress liberal numbers (the best we can) and get EQUITY in those vote numbers.

Smile ICE, smile! Shine those big pearly whites! Take plenty pictures with voter—  passengers- y'all hear now!

So glad that I have no plans to fly commercial anytime soon.

Rock stars used to put me on their jets knowing I was armed.

So good to be retired from all of that fame and fortune.

So good to be retired from pretty much everything.

Currently no friends, no lover, no family and no pets while living way out in the sticks means I get to shoot at anything that goes bump in the night.

Yet another unhinged leftist making a fool of themselves.

I salute these ICE officers how they kept their cool and made this, and most other leftists, look like fools.

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