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Apache helicopters seen near Kid Rock's home in viral videos were on training route, Army says

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  7 months ago  •  72 comments

By:   Courtney Kube

Apache helicopters seen near Kid Rock's home in viral videos were on training route, Army says
Two U.S. Army helicopters that were recorded flying by the Tennessee home of Kid Rock were following a training route in the Nashville area, a military official said Monday.

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Two U.S. Army helicopters that were recorded flying by the Tennessee home of Kid Rock were following a training route in the Nashville area, a military official said Monday.

A spokesman for the 101st Airborne Division, at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, said their presence was "entirely coincidental" to "No Kings" protests in Nashville.

Video posted Saturday by Kid Rock, whose real name is Robert Ritchie, showed him standing near an outdoor pool while an aircraft the Army identified as an Apache helicopter hovered for several seconds near his home.

Kid Rock calls his Nashville-area hilltop estate the "Southern White House."

In the video, he could be seen clapping and saluting. At one point, a second helicopter flew by.

"God Bless America and all those who have made the ultimate sacrifice to defend her," read a post accompanying the video. The post also used a profanity to describe California Gov. Gavin Newsom, saying "this is a level of respect" Newsom will never know.

An Army spokesperson said officials are aware of the video, which appeared to show the AH-64 Apaches operating in the vicinity of a private home, and are investigating.

"Army aviators must adhere to strict safety standards, professionalism, and established flight regulations," the spokesman said. "An administrative review is underway to assess the mission and verify compliance with regulations and airspace requirements. Appropriate action will be taken if any violations are found."

The spokesman would not comment further. A representative for Kid Rock declined to comment.


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Trout Giggles
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1  Trout Giggles    7 months ago
"God Bless America and all those who have made the ultimate sacrifice to defend her," read a post accompanying the video. The post also used a profanity to describe California Gov. Gavin Newsom, saying "this is a level of respect" Newsom will never know.

Kid Rock has never respected anything in his life. Wonder why he never enlisted if he's so gung ho about a show of strength

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    7 months ago

There was no draft to dodge, and he couldn’t pass a drug test to save his own life.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1    7 months ago
he couldn’t pass a drug test to save his own life.

I didn't think of that. Of course, the Army is waiving those positive drug tests. Is he 42 yet?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    7 months ago

Lol.  He passed 42 thirteen years ago.  Imagine being in an active fighting situation and knowing Kid Rock is part of your team.  That snowflake teared up shooting at a case of bud light.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.2    7 months ago
He passed 42 thirteen years ago.

Well he acts like a 14 year old boy

He'd never make it thru USAF basic training, let alone Army basic

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    7 months ago

Just for one marijuana misdemeanor.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.4    7 months ago

only one????

But they are letting them thru even if they fail a drug test, aren't they?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.5    7 months ago

What Happens If You Fail the MEPS Drug Test

A positive result is taken seriously. Here’s what you can expect:

  • First positive for marijuana:   You may be allowed to   reapply after 90 days   ( army.mil ), depending on the branch and circumstances. You’ll need to retake and pass the drug test to continue processing.

  • First positive for other drugs:   Often results in a   one-year waiting period   before you can reapply — and in some cases, a permanent disqualification.

  • Second positive (any drug):   Usually leads to   permanent disqualification   from military service.

Your recruiter will be notified, and your enlistment process will be paused or terminated.


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Many applicants worry that past marijuana or other drug use will automatically bar them from serving. The truth:

  • Occasional past use   may not be disqualifying if you pass your MEPS test and disclose it honestly.

  • Frequent or recent use   could require a waiting period or a waiver.

  • Ongoing use   will disqualify you until you can demonstrate a sustained period of being drug-free.

Military Enlistment Drug Testing: Waivers, Policies, and What Recruits Need to Know -
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.6    7 months ago

I thought they changed the rules?

Anyway...I think my boy sweated a few bullets at the MEPS station

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    7 months ago

too bad those chopper pilots didn't leave kid suck with a couple of hellfire end tables in his living room ...

 
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @1.3    7 months ago

from a PR perspective they really didn't have any choice

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.3    7 months ago

did they fly by over his house on purpose? If so, for what? To give Kid a thrill?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.2    7 months ago

he probably posted on instagram that he'd be raw dogging lauren blobert poolside that day ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.3.3    7 months ago

It was a little chilly that day...do you think Kid could have performed?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.5  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.2    7 months ago

He was waiting for them with someone else "filming".

It was prearranged.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.6  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.4    7 months ago

he's usually passed out by noon, 

Wait, did you mean the guitar or some inyouendo?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.7  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.4    7 months ago

she still has her big bag of tricks left over from her escort days back in aspen ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.6    7 months ago

the other in you endo

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.5    7 months ago

wow...that's a complete waste of resources not to mention unauthorized use of government assets

I hope that copter crew gets at least a LOR. But that's Army I don;t know what their administrative punishment is

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.10  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.9    7 months ago

They all think Kid Rock is a PR hero for the red, white and blue, just not for recruitment.

They will reluctantly be given a letter of reprimand that will fall out of their jacket when they go for promotion.

It could make for an interesting FITREP letter, lol.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.11  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.9    7 months ago
wow...that's a complete waste of resources not to mention unauthorized use of government assets

Two decades ago, Willow Grove AF Reserve units repaired/rebuilt an aging Huey and took it out for a spin, made some adjustments, another spin around Montgomery County without a flight plan.

The Chief wanted to know what it would do with passengers. They weren't authorized, available or recommended yet.

They substituted what they thought were boxes of PGU15 iron practice rounds (painted white) for the A-10, 

for the appropriate weight of five people.

What could go wrong?

Upon return the pilot enthusiastically declared the bird fit for duty except for one loud noise when he was doing sky donuts somewhere over Bucks or Montgomery County, PA.

Several of the containers of PGU15 were missing.  Door damage suggested they "broke free' and fell out during the "exercise".

The Chief was excoriated by the CWO.  He in turn was excoriated by an A-10 pilot who said just because the box was labeled PGU doesn't mean that's what was in the boxes.

The search lasted for weeks and it was pretty much buried until the empty cases showed up at a flea market. 

They insisted that they weren't spent uranium rounds

or armor piercing but internet searches suggested otherwise.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.11    7 months ago

too funny

they can suggest they weren't spent uranium rounds but a well calibrated Geiger counter will lay rest to that lie

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.13  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.11    7 months ago

I remember seeing belts of 30 and 50 cal at the flea market back in the early 70's. I liked to buy the tracer rounds out of the 30 cal belts ...

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.3.14  Snuffy  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.11    7 months ago

That story reminds me of a visit to Nellis back in the 70's for a Red Flag exercise. We were supporting A-10's at the time. Nellis had a (to them) brand new T-62 that Israel had captured and given to the US. The Air Force had added additional armor and remote control hardware to provide realism to training exercises, figuring correctly that the additional armor would prevent the practice TP ammo from doing any real damage. One of the three squadron commanders was leading a flight of three for this showing as this was the first time this tank was being presented on the course and as such they had plenty of VIP's to witness.  The lead was finally cleared to make a strafing run and got about a second and a half into the run when it became obvious that he was not shooting the practice ammo but was shooting the depleted uranium darts AP ammo. Turns out the factory had made a mistake with the color identification markings. I heard the stories later, the armorers worked around the clock (3 shifts) for a good week or more to find and correctly identify the 30mm ammo. 

And Nellis never got to use that T-62 again. Swiss cheese just doesn't hold up well on target ranges.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Snuffy @1.3.14    7 months ago
when it became obvious that he was not shooting the practice ammo but was shooting the depleted uranium darts AP ammo

oops

I bet someone had a very bad day after that

We had A-10's in Alaska. They were close ground support for the Army Post down the road from us. I liked them much better than any other fighter jet I became acquainted with

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.16  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.15    7 months ago

Silent approach, GE Turbo fans, by the time you hear them it's too late.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.17  Split Personality  replied to  Snuffy @1.3.14    7 months ago

I had a white round on the mantle for years and never thought to have it checked.  Had to turn it in when we PCS'd to CA.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.3.18  Snuffy  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.17    7 months ago

Yeah...  at least you didn't have the yellow tipped (HE) or the black tipped (depleted uranian penetrator). Either one of those could have made the officials in CA really look at you.  I had a bare aluminum one back in the days, it had been torn down the side from a loader belt jam so there was no propellant in it. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.19  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.15    7 months ago
We had A-10's in Alaska

hated by top AF brass since conception ...

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.3.20  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  devangelical @1.3.19    7 months ago
hated by top AF brass since conception ...

True , and they are STILL trying to kill it as we speak for other platforms , but its like a bad penny it just keeps showing up.

Heard they used some during the recent engagement with Irans Navy ( or whats left of it ) and its new nickname is the SEAHAWG. come listen to the song of my peoples ...BRRRRRRRRT.

 Done .

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.21  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.10    7 months ago
They all think Kid Rock is a PR hero for the red, white and blue, just not for recruitment.

this stinks of an orchestrated PR repair job for kid suck. he got trashed for his part in the alt-right super bowl fiasco. then his concert tour started losing performers, tour date cancellations due to poor tickets sales and a high dollar ticket scandal, questionable song lyrics, totally sycophantic to trump, his nashville bar and restaurant being raided by ICE last year, and finally rumors of his current financial distress.

how can that be fixed? simple, an arranged stunt that pushes the fake patriot button of the gullible, aka, trump's base. who cares if this affects the professional futures of those pilots that were convinced to participate, or felt they had no choice or no prior knowledge that this would go viral. as if trump gives a fuck about american service people, living or not ...

no worries, nothing will happen, kid suck knows trump, and this is a feel good about being a maga american thing. this can be another one of those yeah we did it, and we got away with it, own the libs moment. /s

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.3.22  Snuffy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.3.20    7 months ago
BRRRRRRRRT

Yep, the sound that GAU-8/A has a rather distinctive sound. 

Seahawg...   sounds good. But I also remember when the Air Force first bought the A-10. The Navy also looked at it so they had one outfitted with the tail-hook that all Navy planes have and attempted to do a landing capture with an arresting wire. They landed, the hook caught the wire and proceeded to tear the tail-hook right out of the airframe. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.3.23  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Snuffy @1.3.22    7 months ago

The A-10 has a unique  place in my opinion , everyone that wants to be a pilot wants jets , they want to kick the tires , light the fires and go screaming down the runway like they have a m_80 stuck in their puckerholes . the speedy Gonzales of the military .

The A-10 is slow , its ugly in a cute kinda way , can carry crazy amounts of weight and ordinace for its size , the Slowpoke Rodrigues of the military, but remember slowpoke might be slow , but he pack a gun ...../

( you just saw the old sat morning cartoon in your head and said that with an accent )

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.16    7 months ago

yeah...I discovered that first hand when I went out to the range behind the base for something duty related and when I got to the tire the A-10s came in for a strafing run. Bout peed my pants and everybody in the tower laughed their asses off

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.3.20    7 months ago
SEAHAWG

I like Wart Hog better

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.3.26  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.25    7 months ago

it will always be a warthog to me , but if some other branch wants to use it , say land based marine aviators , that like blowing stuff up, want to call it something else because of where they are using it , ild be cool with that .

 it retains the hog at least , still in the pig family , and we know how some of the islamic religion feel about pigs .....now just to get the lubrication in the guns to be done with LARD .... i smell BACON ....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.27  Trout Giggles  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.3.26    7 months ago

Ok...we'll let the seamen call it what they want.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.28  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.27    7 months ago
Ok...we'll let the seamen call it what they want.

Hopefully the seamen cum up with an appropriate tone of lip stick to put on that pigs facial expression before he gets boared, or sent to the pen

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.29  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.11    7 months ago
Upon return the pilot enthusiastically declared the bird fit for duty except for one loud noise when he was doing sky donuts somewhere over Bucks or Montgomery County, PA.

I vaguely remember this, I think. I dated a bartender way back when that worked at the "gentleman's' establishment across from the Willow Grove base on rt 611. Interesting memories...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.30  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.29    7 months ago
I dated a bartender way back when that worked at the "gentleman's' establishment

accelerated dating concept, very efficient. nothing like going out with somebody you've already seen half naked ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.31  Igknorantzruls  replied to  devangelical @1.3.30    7 months ago

For real this one was only the bartender, and made awesome money. Almost as much as the dancers.

  I did date a girl in my early twenties, and remember getting rained out at work and stopping in with a few buddies to a local strip joint and seeing a former girlfriend dancing. Was quite interesting, for as I slipped a bill into her cleavage, I said I remember when I could do this for free, we both laughed. 

  I have an even more bazaar incident. I dated    a girl in high school and spent time at her house with her mom and stepfather sometimes. A year or two later we go into our local 'Gentlemen's' establishment, hell I wasn't even of age yet, and who do I see dancing behind the bar, my ex's mom! Believe we were both a little embarrassed. Especially since her daughter, YES, she was very attractive and could make a living from it, but mom, c'mon man, it was just wrong as she wasn't built for it so to speak. Rather interesting though to say the least. The old Oakford Inn, was the place that Split P might recall up on rt 1 before Reedman World Car Dealerships. They recently knocked the historic joint down to widen Rt 1. Almost died with a buddy canoeing right near there. My buddy and I would only canoe when people were getting rescued by helicopters and shit after heavy rains as the Neshaminy creek would become a monster of a raging rapids. We went under the old rt 1 bridge and got caught up in a swirling eddie and got ripped over. I'm wrestling to save canoe as my buddy was busy drowning ten yards away. Very scary time as I released the canoe and attempted to swim to my struggling buddy and he just got to shore when I reached him. We both lay exhausted on the creek side hill that leads up to the Oakford Inn. He asked me what time it was, and I said I didn't know because my pager and wallet were rushing down stream towards the Delaware river. He wanted to know what time he had almost checked out dead, for real.

 So we drag our sorry water logged selves up the hill to the parking lot to use the phone at the bar. Here we see a local bartender from the neighborhood who also worked here coming in for a beer. We ask for a ride to go get our trucks and he said sure, lets grab a beer first, obviously he was buying as we both just lost our wallets and belongings, but, we were alive! 

 Needless to say we looked like two drown rats at the bar and had no tips for the dancers and suffered till we convinced him to take us to truck. Called our buddy downstream to look for our good ole faithful PT109 nicknamed canoe that we had defied death with many times prior. He looked but she was lost.  

Somehow we were not. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.32  Split Personality  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.29    7 months ago

You mean Lee's Hoagies or Lancers Diner or the strip club, was it Mickey's Mouse? I forget, LOL.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.33  Split Personality  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.31    7 months ago

That one I remember but there was one in Abington near the Keswick where the street ran under a railroad overpass, used to flood a lot but the place was an old restraunnt with lots of big booths, easy to clean up and maintain.

One of the son in laws took us to Mickey's Mouse about a decade ago.  totally different experience at this age, lol.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.34  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.31    7 months ago

I took some installers that worked for me to a club in north boulder for a couple beers one time after a difficult install. a dancer comes and sits at our table, since it was barely late afternoon and the place was basically empty. we're yakking with the dancer and she tells me she lives down the road in a small farm town I lived in from age 9 to 15. so I ask her what her what her parents names are and she tells me. low and behold, I went to jr high with mommy and daddy, and I remembered them both as being ultra religious straight arrows, which helped to explain their daughter's current career choice in my mind ...

the strip club bartender I dated for awhile after my divorce, is now a born again maga, but I blame somebody else after me for that ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.35  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.33    7 months ago
That one I remember but there was one in Abington near the Keswick where the street ran under a railroad overpass, used to flood a lot but the place was an old restraunnt with lots of big booths, easy to clean up and maintain.

Familiar with the Keswick, and I do recall one near a railroad underpass. The one where my experience happened was just North of the Neshaminy mall on Rt 1 right before it split with the Super Highway after the Bristol road bridge. It was an old stone building right adjacent to Neshaminy creek on the left. When we were younger it had bands play in the basement that later became 'private' dance rooms. Had my first encounter with 'Slam" dancing there, as we went to see a buddy in a punk band there. Most of us were under age, and 'Moshing/slam dancing" wasn't popular yet. These guys started banging in to us, so we piled them up in the corner, we didn't know WTF it was. You bump into us, we're bumping back. Got thrown out early, but good memories!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    7 months ago

He might not get through Marine boot camp, maybe even unlikely would he make it through Army or Navy basic training, but I'm sure he could make Airman Basic. 

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    7 months ago
I'm sure he could make Airman Basic. 

Nope. None of the Armed Forces let recruits post their ever bowel movement to social media. Although with Hegsbreath, it might become mandatory part of a new MAGA training course.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @2.1    7 months ago

he would never make it thru USAF basic. He would start crying the first time a female TI screamed at him for not making his bunk properly

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @2.1    7 months ago

I'm sure he could survive that. From what I've seen he'd fit right in as a AB.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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2.1.3  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    7 months ago

I think he would still get weeded out for failure to adapt .

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @2.1.3    7 months ago

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evilone
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2.1.5  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    7 months ago
From what I've seen...

I am third generation enlisted AND my son served after me. I did BT in both the Army and the Coast Guard. I've had family serve in all branches of the Armed Forces including my son who served as base security at Bagram Air Base during the last stupid war in the Middle East - Insurgents liked to shell the air base for shits and giggles. Let me know when and where you served...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @2.1.5    7 months ago

My son is currently working on C-17s at Dover AFB, DE. He made it thru basic like I did but didn't think it was a piece of cake

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.7  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.6    7 months ago

We have friends that have kids in the Marines. One is in the hospital with a TBI after being shelled in Kuwait and the other is in transit. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @2.1.7    7 months ago

TBIs are awful. My daughter's father in law was in a transport that ran over an IED and suffered a TBI. He's in very bad shape today and getting worse

and he's retired Air Force so AF troops do see combat and bad stuff

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.8    7 months ago

concussion based closed head injuries also shorten lives ...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    7 months ago

I'm sure he could survive that. From what I've seen he'd fit right in as a AB.

I went through Marine boot camp, he wouldn't last 5 mins. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @2.1.9    7 months ago

Yeah. He's not as old as me and I fear he may not be around much longer. He now has temporal dysplasia (?) due to the TBI

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.10    7 months ago

But you did so I know you're tough. Thank your for your service, Marine

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    7 months ago

Besides the obvious age issue of being 55, probably not even close.

After 60 years of being the butt of many BMT jokes the AF is changing the equation and the appearances.

15% is the wash out rate across all services but the AF has traditionally been around 4%.

About three years ago the AF tried to improve on that number.

Air Force Refocuses 'Zero Week' of Boot Camp in Hopes of Getting More Recruits Through | Military.com

In December, the service conducted a beta-test with two squadrons where they rearranged the curriculum for zero week and noticed multiple changes, including "the most prominent being an increase in physical fitness," according to the press release.

Specific data was not provided, but the changes produced "a noticeable decrease in injuries and a noticeable increase in PT pass rates," according to the service.

The   Air   Force   has   announced   changes   to   its   Physical   Fitness   Assessment   (PFA),   which   will   no   longer   include   riding   bikes   as   part   of   the   assessment.   The   new   PFA   will   evaluate   airmen   in   four   categories:   cardio   respiratory   fitness,   waist-to-height   ratios,   muscle   strength,   and   muscle   core   endurance.   The   two-mile   run   will   replace   the   1.5-mile   run,   and   the   20-meter   High   Aerobic   Multi-shuttle   Run   (HAMR)   will   be   an   alternative   aerobic   fitness   assessment.   Installation   commanders   can   conduct   mass   PFA   testing   twice   a   year,   allowing   airmen   time   to   adjust   to   the   new   standards.   The   new   standards   aim   to   ensure   that   all   airmen   are   fit   for   their   missions   and   are   part   of   the   Air   Force's   ongoing   commitment   to   maintaining   a   healthy   and   fit   Total   Force.  
The Official Home Page of the U.S. Air Force +1
 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @2.2    7 months ago

back in my day, you only needed to be black, poor, or have long hair to get drafted.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @2.2    7 months ago

When I first went to Alaska our annual fitness test was a 1.5 mile run. Depending on your age and sex determined what maximum time you were allowed. When I went to Texas they changed the fitness test to a stationary bike where they measured heart rate and O2 uptake. That bike was worse than the run. At least I could fake the run

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.3    7 months ago

I am so glad I got out when I did

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
2.2.5  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.2    7 months ago
That bike was worse than the run. At least I could fake the run

I used to train people in my company how to pass the 2 mile PT run at White Sands. I ran 8 miles (the distance from our shop downrange to the barracks) 3 times a week.

I can barely climb stairs now with my shitty knees.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2.6  devangelical  replied to  evilone @2.2.5    7 months ago

the hips and ankles go next ...

looking back, physical fitness is over rated.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @2.2.5    7 months ago

8 miles 3X/week? Impressive. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
2.2.8  Split Personality  replied to  evilone @2.2.5    7 months ago

One of my JAGS was USMC.  They put him out because his feet were ruined from running PT in combat boots which was required.

I have another old friend who made it to O6 by running every day at lunch in custom sneakers with an overloaded pack. 

Home for lunch, change,  run for 30, cool off, shower, shave, fresh uni, some fruit and tea and back to the office like clockwork.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    7 months ago

Trump may give him the Presidential Medal Of Freedom for saluting that helicopter crew. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @3    7 months ago

the medal of honor for throwing himself on top of lauren blobert at the last inauguration and neutralizing her biological weapon ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4  Trout Giggles    7 months ago

Kegsbreath removed the suspension

Do you think he would have removed the suspension if it had been Springsteen or Taylor Swift?

Of course their egos aren't that fragile that they need a fly over from Army helicopters

 
 

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