Misconceptions about New York's "Abortion Law"
With the signing of Senate Bill S2796 , otherwise known as the "abortion bill," into law by New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, there have been some misconceptions about what the law actually entails. The entirety of the bill can be viewed using the preceding link. But many pro-lifers have gone on to claim that the law will allow late term abortions "up to birth" or imply woman can electively obtain such abortions "on demand." Of course, none of that is true and anyone's claim that such late term abortions would be permissible "on demand up to birth" is either a flat out lie, or at the very least woefully misinformed and inaccurate. Late term abortions are only performed when the woman's health/life is at risk.
According to an article in the Timesunion (Jan. 2019, para. 11), here is what the new law actually does:
The Reproductive Health Act does three things. First, it strips abortion from the state's criminal code and places it entirely within the realm of public health law. Second, it expands who can perform the procedure from beyond just physicians to any licensed, certified or authorized health care practitioner for whom abortion is within their scope of practice.
Finally, it legalizes abortion after 24 weeks in cases where it would protect a woman's health or where a fetus is not viable. State law previously only allowed abortions after 24 weeks if the woman's life was in jeopardy .
As anyone can see, no where does the law allow elective late term abortions past 24 weeks. So women will not be able to suddenly obtain an abortion at 9 months gestation because they want to (as some pro-lifers like to claim with a mountain of hyperbole). I hope this clears up any misconceptions and misunderstanding about the new law. And remember, abortion is a woman's right and choice, and is NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS!
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It cannot be overstated enough: abortion is a woman's right and choice, and is NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS! Don't like abortion? Then don't have one, plain and simple. But no one has the right to make that determination for anyone else nor take another's rights away!
Thanks for posting this, Gordy. However, as we both know there is a contingent on NT that will continue to spew the lies
You're welcome Trout. No doubt some will continue to spread lies and misinformation. That's why NT has a contingent like us to provide actual facts and correct misinformation.
Yep, someone just posted another BS article ... Perrie closed it.
I'm not surprised. It seems some pro-lifers take such issue with abortion, they are not above lying to vilify or condemn it (in addition to any agenda too).
There are some really stupid people in here. If you have to post lies to try to prove your point, you've already lost - and they don't seem to realize that.
He also told Perrie he would keep posting after she removes it and posting - and Perrie told him - if he did so - he would get a two day vacation .
Indeed. At the very least, some people are just dishonest.
Rush Limbaugh was already spouting the expected lies and propaganda at 11 AM CST today
Right on cue, eh?
And imagine my surprise (hardly) when I see those same words written on the screen here in NT
No surprise at all. Some just like to parrot what they hear, and then act like they know what they're talking about.
The conservative echo chamber is very efficient. They need their daily dose of fake outrage.
I think they get a daily newsletter in their AOL mailbox
I was shocked to learn that AOL mail addresses still function a few years ago. I still have a Hotmail address but I only use it as a spam catcher when I am forced to register to read/use a website.
I'm glad you got the joke
I would hope the misconceptions would now stop being put forth, but we all know better.
All the more reason to rectify any misconceptions with actual facts, and call out those who willfully spread any misconceptions or flat out lie!
It drives me batty that out & out lies are accepted even with the truth staring them in the face.
The best way to destroy lies and expose those who perpetuate them, is with actual facts. But I know what you mean.
I have been trying very hard to fight this mentality with facts, but man, sometimes....
I know. Keep up the good fight.
Always.
Right now I am asking someone on another thread to post from the bill where it says that women can get abortions after 24 wks by saying they are stressed. So far he keeps repeating & saying we don't know what is in the bill.
He's reading something in that bill that doesn't exist.
I keep telling him to post it, but I get nothing.
I noticed. I'll address that article and posts later.
My cousin posted on FB some reasons for the New York law - risk to the mother, etc. One ignorant person actually replied to her saying that pregnancy never endangers a woman's life. One would have to be either abysmally ignorant or damn near criminally dishonest to say such a thing.
Or perhaps a little of both.
Never?!?!
That person needs a crash course on what can happen during a pregnancy. Pre-eclampsia comes to mind
That and gestational diabetes are not uncommon.
She knows. She just doesn't want to admit it.
I had gestational diabetes with both kids. Not fun changing your diet all around 7 months in
My sister was in and out of the hospital because of her gestational diabetes. Her blood sugar was out of control and they couldn't get it under control.
That's bad. Were her babies large babies? I was told that can happen with mothers with GD. I was also told that the babies can suffer respiratory problems. Were hers ok when they were born?
Mine wasn't so bad, it was controllable through diet. But my babies weren't small. Both were about 2 weeks early and the first one was 7 lb 9 oz and the second was 7 lb on the nose. I don't want to think how big they might have been if they had gone the whole 40 weeks
He was 9lbs and he was when she was 35. His health was fine.
That's not a baby....that's a toddler! LOL!
He is 19 and 6-3'.
And now he's a bear. LOL!
The problem is that people don't understand how extreme the situation must be for this to happen. Years ago, my cousin was pregnant 25 weeks, when she got eclampsia. They performed an emergency C section, against doctors orders, and she delivered at the time ( we are talking 30 years ago) the smallest baby to live at 25 weeks. But because her blood pressure was so high, she had a stroke, went into a coma for 4 months and when she came out, she had lost all her long term memories. She had no idea who anyone was.
These are the kinds of cases we are talking about. It was her choice to do this, but it might not be the choice of every woman.
Some people don't care about a woman's circumstances or reasons for wanting/having an abortion. All they see is the fetus. Now when abortion laws dictate that later abortion is allowed when the "woman's health" is at risk, they take that to mean women will have abortions willy nilly. They either do not understand, or refuse to understand, a woman's circumstances or the law's themselves.
That's terrible, Perrie.
That is such a sad story. It does highlight the problem to me since you gave a perfectly reasonable medical necessity and while even an anti-choice person can hear that and think "Well, I guess in that case it might be justified..." what they don't really realize they are saying is "Every late term abortion should be run past me and the other anti-choice evangelicals, we need to know each circumstance before we can accept that it's medically necessary". And the fact is, these anti-choice folk don't know the difference between eclampsia, pre-eclampsia and e-verify, they are not medical professionals, no one should feel like they need to run anything past them for their supposed "divine" approval. To even suggest such a thing is madness, yet that appears to be their core complaint, that they don't get to make those decisions for either the woman or her doctor who are likely dealing with one of the most difficult decisions a human can make. I think many of them believe their God is a higher authority than man, and they believe they know their Gods mind and desires, so they take it upon themselves to go insert their God in-between a woman, her doctor and the choice to terminate a pregnancy at any time after what they see as the "miracle" of conception. They take it upon themselves to give their morals to people they consider immoral.