As Biden’s Lead Widens, Hysteria Seizes Fox News Channel

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  75 comments


As Biden’s Lead Widens, Hysteria Seizes Fox News Channel
In their telling, Trump's reelection is all that's standing between the American public and a communist, anti-white regime. That's an argument that will countenance virtually any step imaginable to prevent a Biden victory and will require months of intense fearmongering about the threat posed by civil unrest to sustain through the election.

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As Biden’s Lead Widens, Hysteria Seizes Fox News Channel


President Donald Trump's reelection bid is faltering. Former Vice President Joe Biden has   led in virtually every national poll   of the campaign, he has a double-digit advantage in several   recent polls , he   has the edge   in key battleground states, and he's   catching up   to Trump's once-dominant fundraising position. Trump's supporters can't make up ground by pointing to his record with the nation pummeled by a deadly pandemic and economic devastation under his leadership. And their   efforts to tarnish Biden have been contradictory and ineffective   -- in part because the   right's culture war playbook   has proven less convincing against a white male target, and in part because the president   would rather talk   about   West Point's treacherous ramps   than his opponent.

With both positive and negative messages failing, Trump's right-wing media allies at Fox News and elsewhere have decided to raise the stakes. They have started claiming that this fall's election isn't really about the relative merits of Trump and Biden. Instead, they have turned Biden -- the septuagenarian center-left liberal who capped four decades in public service as Barack Obama's vice president and speaks movingly about loss, grief, and the need for reconciliation on the campaign trail -- into a stand-in for dark forces poised to shatter civilization.


In their telling, Trump's reelection is all that's standing between the American public and a communist, anti-white regime. That's an argument that will countenance virtually any step imaginable to prevent a Biden victory and will require months of   intense fearmongering about the threat posed by civil unrest   to sustain through the election.

This new talking point builds on the Trumpists' desperate effort to terrify their audiences about the threat of civil unrest in American cities posed by   "antifa" protesters ,   Black Lives Matter   activists , and   statuary vigilantes . It repeats Fox's   2018 campaign strategy   of warning viewers that their physical safety is on the ballot. And it tracks with Trump's   own messaging   that Biden is a "very willing Trojan horse for socialism."

Indeed, Fox star Tucker Carlson used the same classical allusion during his   Monday monologue . "We should stop pretending that this is an election between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. There is no Joe Biden; the Joe Biden you remember no longer exists," he said. "The candidate has no independent thoughts of his own. He has no core beliefs. He is empty. He's a perfect Trojan horse."

He went on to claim that if Biden were elected, "the people who've taken over the Democratic Party" would conspire with the media, federal law enforcement, intelligence agencies, and perhaps the military to ban the First Amendment, smear their political opponents as white supremacists, and imprison them for hate speech. (White supremacists   love Carlson's show   because he   echoes their talking points ; Carlson   has claimed   that the threat posed by white supremacists is a "hoax.")

"Only Republicans can save us from that," Carlson concluded. "We have no choice but to ask for their help. The Republican Party is the only power center left in this country available to people who dissent."

Victor David Hanson, a senior fellow at the conservative Hoover Institution,   echoed   Carlson's framing later in the program. "I don't want to get political, but this election no longer is about Donald Trump's tweeting," Hanson told Carlson. "It's not about Joe Biden's cognitive impairment. It has nothing to do anymore with a lockdown, the virus, the economy, foreign policy."

"It's a existential question, a Manichean choice between whether you want civilization and you believe that America doesn't have to be perfect to be good and we are not ... going to destroy all that people died for, or [whether] you feel it was inherently flawed with a cancer and we have to use radiation and chemotherapy and kill the host to kill the cancer."

"And that's the choice we're looking at, and I'm going to vote for civilization," Hanson concluded. "Yes. Well, it's our only option. The Republican Party is our only option," Carlson replied."

Carlson's prime-time colleagues have offered up similar takes.

"Socialism is on the ballot, safety and security is on the ballot," Fox's Sean Hannity   claimed   on Monday, later saying, "Will we triumph or will we fail? We will fail and America will become unrecognizable."

"Democrats, they now want to fundamentally rip out those core principles and it's up to you, the people," he added. "They win, guess what? This country will be unrecognizable, if these plans are implemented. What we are seeing, what we are witnessing in the cities, we will see nationwide."

And Laura Ingraham   argued last week   that "the idea that a president Biden would return America to some quaint imagined past is a dangerous fantasy. If he wins, the hard left wins and that means that the culture wars are going to get a lot worse than they are right now."

"His administration will use the full reach of the executive branch to torment all political and cultural enemies," she warned. "Anyone who has a traditional view of American history, or let's say Bible believing Christians, observant Jews, even Muslims, religious schools, all of them will be marked for punishment. Now, statues coming down, that's going to be the least of our problems."

"Their aim is to pull down our whole culture," she concluded. "The American founding, western civilization, and everything that sprang from it."

Brian Kilmeade made a similar point on   Fox & Friends   Tuesday morning   during a discussion   of the "autonomous zone" that protesters had set up in a Seattle neighborhood.

"That's what this presidential run is going to be about. It's going to be less about Biden and Trump and more about what you see in Seattle and then the results that we all are witnessing in Seattle. You've got to decide what you want."

And Rush Limbaugh, the talk radio host who received the Medal of Freedom from Trump this year,   chimed in   later that day.

"The American people have a clear choice here, and it's unlike a choice that they've ever had," he said. "This is not a choice between Republicans and Democrats. This is a choice between America, as founded, and bye-bye America, as founded. And that's exactly what's on the plate. That is not an exaggeration."

"These people on the left … tearing down statues," he continued, but "not because the past offends them. It's because they're getting ready to wipe out this country. They're getting ready to totally scrap it and start again."

He concluded: "We find ourselves in this campaign not against Republicans, Democrats. This is the American people versus Marxism. It's the American people versus communism. In stark terms, it's exactly what we face here."

It is, in fact, nothing like what Republicans actually face, riding a shockingly unpopular incumbent against a well-known opponent with mainstream views. But with few other options available, they're going to see if they can scare the public into clinging to the strongman they know by making the election about anything other than the actual candidates.


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago
"The American people have a clear choice here, and it's unlike a choice that they've ever had," he said. "This is not a choice between Republicans and Democrats. This is a choice between America, as founded, and bye-bye America, as founded. And that's exactly what's on the plate. That is not an exaggeration."

"These people on the left … tearing down statues," he continued, but "not because the past offends them. It's because they're getting ready to wipe out this country. They're getting ready to totally scrap it and start again."

He concluded: "We find ourselves in this campaign not against Republicans, Democrats. This is the American people versus Marxism. It's the American people versus communism. In stark terms, it's exactly what we face here."

No surprise whatsoever that Trumpism's final appeal is to hysteria. It was always headed in this direction. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

Nice article. That is a fairly good representation of the 4 Fox shows Monday night. I know, I watched them - they were spot on every one of them. I suppose to a progressive that seems like hysteria. Progressives love these first six months of 2020. They got a mix of 1918, 1929, 1968 and the literary version of 1984 all rolled into one, which forced Carlson to acknowledge last night that the President is suddenly beatable in November. Then of course, we got to hear Joe Biden make a statement that "120 million Americans have now perished via the Coronavirus."  Less that an hour later Hannity told the President (live) what Biden said. The President just shook his head and said "that's one third of the US population!"

We have 4 months to go and the American people didn't need the Fox anchors to make them feel scared. They are scared!!!!

 
 
 
Thomas
1.1.1  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    2 weeks ago
We have 4 months to go and the American people didn't need the Fox anchors to make them feel scared. They are scared!!!!

Scared that there may be even the slightest chance that the current president may somehow still be in office after inauguration day. 

Stop watching FOX propaganda and you might let some actual reality into your brain. 

 
 
 
JBB
1.1.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    2 weeks ago

Don't you see? In your own analogy Trump would be Big Brother...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @1.1.1    2 weeks ago
Scared that there may be even the slightest chance that the current president may somehow still be in office after inauguration day. 

Their scared of the raging mobs.


Stop watching FOX propaganda and you might let some actual reality into your brain. 

A brain encourages acting like a civilized human being. Thanks for pointing out our advantage.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    2 weeks ago
Don't you see? In your own analogy Trump would be Big Brother..

I'll leave that one to our readers and George Orwell.

 
 
 
Krishna
1.1.5  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

I'll leave that one to our readers and George Orwell.

Thanks, I do appreciate that!

(Who was that unmasked man anyway?)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

I fear Orwell turning in his grave. Maybe you should consider another avatar.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

There you go placing far too much faith in political polls again...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2  Paula Bartholomew    2 weeks ago

Biden is doing great considering that the repubs talk shit about him hiding out in his basement.  I will bet that his basement is decorated very nicely and quite fit for actually living in.  Then Trump talks shit about him wearing a mask when out, but not when at home.  Biden does not need huge jam packed rallys to get his point across.  I doubt he would have massive rallys anyway out of concern for the health of his supporters.  America does not need an ego fest unlike Trump who needs his stroked continually.  America needs someone who can get a point across without destroying the English language and a leader who does not use derogatory names for people.  I am sure that Biden does tweet, but not to the degree Trump does.  You won't find Biden on a golf course or doing pay for play.  He won't have bromances with foreign dictators or employ sweat shops to push overpriced tacky merchandise.  As far as Tucker C goes, he can go pound sand.

 
 
 
JBB
2.1  JBB  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2    2 weeks ago

I just saw Biden speaking and he made more sense in ten minutes than Trump has in three and a half years. Actually, in seventy four...

 
 
 
Texan1211
3  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

If Biden wins, I wonder how long before people like the one who posted this push for Fox to lose their license?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3    2 weeks ago

I've always wondered how long it would be before the nutcase right claimed Biden is a communist. Turns out it wasnt that long.  Its 1952 all over again, lol. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
3.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

Who is the Democratic candidate for president? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.1    2 weeks ago
"His administration will use the full reach of the executive branch to torment all political and cultural enemies," she warned. "Anyone who has a traditional view of American history, or let's say Bible believing Christians, observant Jews, even Muslims, religious schools, all of them will be marked for punishment. Now, statues coming down, that's going to be the least of our problems." "Their aim is to pull down our whole culture," she concluded. "The American founding, western civilization, and everything that sprang from it."

Laura Ingraham ought to be ashamed of herself . But let's face it, she is beneath shame. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
eir aim is to pull down our whole culture," she concluded. "The American founding, western civilization, and everything that sprang from it."

How do you explain's Biden's refusal to condemn the destruction of statues of our founders, abolitionists, and statesmen? Discussing the destruction of Mount Rushmore? Do you not understand what the leftist mobs are doing? The whole point of the liberal's institutional newspaper's prestige project was to literally make up a narrative claiming our founding was really designed to protect slavery.  Creating a new culture revolving around  racial identity  and new  founding myths is literally the whole point of everything the left has been doing for the last few years. How have you missed that? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    2 weeks ago
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XDm9mm
3.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 weeks ago
I've always wondered how long it would be before the nutcase right claimed Biden is a communist.

NAME THE ONE who has said that JR.

He's simply a senile old man unable to pick a pair of socks in the morning without help.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
Laura Ingraham ought to be ashamed of herself 

Don't you feel that way about anyone who would even dare to disagree with you or hold a different opinion?

Who on Fox called Biden (remember that name--he is your nominee for President) a communist?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

Yes, and you think "the squad" runs the Democratic Party.  Enjoy your hysteria. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.9  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 weeks ago

Your reply to Texan1211 did not provide anyone calling Biden a communist.  

It's really a shame when you can't support your own propaganda JR.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.1.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    2 weeks ago

d you think "the squad" runs the Democratic Party.

Who stands up to the squad? Which leader has said "this is nuts!" Seems like any Democrat with even a taint of moderation gets primaried and leaves Congress. 

Pelosi, who calls people murderers for trying to reign in the police when she's not too busy playing dress up?

Who is the adult in the Democratic Party? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.11  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    2 weeks ago
Yes, and you think "the squad" runs the Democratic Party.  Enjoy your hysteria. 

Wow.   Now you're quoting people saying things that they didn't.  Delusions are running rampant among the Trump Derangement Syndrome suffers.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.1.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    2 weeks ago

you think "the squad" runs the Democratic Party.

Joe Biden refuses to say whether statues of George Washington should be torn down.

I guess the squad does run the Democratic Party.  How low will the Democratic party sink to placate the mob?

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.13  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    2 weeks ago
Who is the Democratic candidate for president? 

Hard to believe...but many people have no idea! :-(

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.5    2 weeks ago

Why ask a question and then delete the correct answer?

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.15  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.7    2 weeks ago
Don't you feel that way about anyone who would even dare to disagree with you or hold a different opinion?

No-- but Laura Ingraham is a particularly obnoxious piece of worthless shit.

(Jus' sayin')

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
3.1.17  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

Understands, probably. Cares? Not even.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @3    2 weeks ago

 I wonder how long before people like the one who posted this push for Fox to lose their license?

Revoking it will probably depend on Joe's nap schedule and catching him when he remembers his name and how to sign it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2    2 weeks ago

Nah--Joe will have people for that kind of stuff. The DNC will virtually demand it of him.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.1    2 weeks ago

Oh I am sure. The problem will be keeping him alert enough to sign his name. He's not going to do anything other than nap, take medication and sign whatever the twitter mob tells him to. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.2.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.3    2 weeks ago

If it comes from Bannon, then there is zero credibility.  It is Trump who has two bromances going on with communistic leaders.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
4  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

It's such a shame to see Americans stooping to such histerical desperation. The line that runs through my head these days is:  "Stand up like a man."  I do have faith that the everyday American is going to recognize the histeria for what it is, and the numbers are indicating it.

 
 
 
devangelical
5  devangelical    2 weeks ago

eeeek, commies !!!

same threat by radical right wing fascists prior to every election for over 100 years.......

.........with 7/4 as the traditional kickoff for the 2nd amendment threats.

late, mismanaged and inept national pandemic response - check

42 million americans unemployed - check

US economy tanked with a recession chaser - check

civil unrest due to unresolved institutional racism - check

200,000 dead americans by november - check

an idiot in the white house more concerned with his re-election than leading the country - check

an autocrat AG that thinks the POTUS is above the law and does his bidding in the DOJ - check

 
 
 
JBB
5.1  JBB  replied to  devangelical @5    2 weeks ago

I cannot believe there are not enough republicans with balls left in the US Senate to send Trump into early retirement...along with Pence!

 
 
 
devangelical
5.1.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @5.1    2 weeks ago

they're too busy scrambling to find a campaign issue that will stick to the wall now...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
6  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
JBB
6.1  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6    2 weeks ago

Except Trump was only down by 3% in national polls at the time of the election. Which was the exact percentage by which he lost the popular vote. The difference now is that Trump is down over ten percent nationally and losing the battleground states he must win again to retain the presidency. And, Joe Biden just so happens to be particularly strong in ALL those very states...

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-06-25/joe-biden-leads-trump-in-all-6-battleground-states

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
6.1.1  Adam_Selene  replied to  JBB @6.1    2 weeks ago

Trump won the electoral vote by about 80,000. Last time I checked most of the state polls were within the margin of error. So even those polls were accurate.

Looks like the polls are accurate again. Now, however, even at +-4% Biden leads.

 
 
 
JBB
6.1.2  JBB  replied to  Adam_Selene @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

It remains mathematically possible for Trump to win the EC while losing the popular vote by 3 or maybe even 4 percentage points . Losing by more than that it is just not going to happen...

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Adam_Selene @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

Trump won the electoral vote by about 80,000. 

That's a nice way to spin the data, LOL!

But if you're looking at the majority of voters actually wanted--- Trump lost the popular vote by-- what was the exact number anyone remember?-- something like 2 million votes!

So I guess it depends on whether ornot a person thinks the candidate with the most votes should be the winner-- or whether or not one feels a corrupt system (the Electoral College) should determine the one who gets elected?

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @6.1.3    2 weeks ago
Trump won the electoral vote by about 80,000. 

That's a nice way to spin the data, LOL!

But if you're looking at the majority of voters actually wanted--- Trump lost the popular vote by-- what was the exact number anyone remember?-- something like 2 million votes!

So I guess it depends on whether ornot a person thinks the candidate with the most votes should be the winner-- or whether or not one feels a corrupt system (the Electoral College) should determine the one who gets elected?

P.S: Here's an interesting bit of trivia that many people may not know: Under Saddam, Iraq actually did have elections.And everything was totally legal (under their corrupt laws). And here's the interesting fact-- Saddam always  won the elections! 

And perhaps even more amazing-- he won with 100% of the vote. All fine under their legal system!

(Of course the polling places were closely watched by Saddam's people!!!)_

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Krishna @6.1.3    2 weeks ago
That's a nice way to spin the data

It didn't sound like spin, it just sounded like a very, very, small number which it was. When the Trump sycophants wrongly proclaim Trump won by a landslide or won "bigly" they are simply refusing to understand what a skin of the teeth electoral win it actually was and that the polls at the time in the States were fairly accurate. And this slim margin win in three battleground States is what the current Republican party is resting all their hopes on as they arrogantly proclaim "polls can't be trusted". It will be both interesting and a little bit sad when we all watch them eat their words as they gnash their teeth and scream at the heavens when their bumbling orange faced deity imposter falls flat this November and loses in a real landslide. I believe that Trump will lose by more than 10,000,000 votes in the popular vote which will overwhelm any sliver of chance he might have had at shooting the moon and getting another unlikely electoral college win. What happened in 2016 has only happened 5 times in our 240+ years as a nation, it was a very rare occurrence and will not be soon repeated. Only the truly insane would be betting on a Trump victory, but then again, no one has ever accused his rabid followers of being sane.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.1.5    2 weeks ago

A win is a win is a win.

Tell the truth--would you rather have had Clinton win--even by one vote?

All this talk of popular vote is meaningless--something held onto by those still bitter about the results of an election that was held like all others, and they didn't like the results.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Adam_Selene @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

80,000? The Electoral College consists of 538 electors, and an absolute majority of at least 270 electoral votes is required to win the election.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.7    2 weeks ago
80,000?

"The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too."

"Or put another way: But for 79,646 votes cast in those three states , she'd be the next president of the United States."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/donald-trump-will-be-president-thanks-to-80000-people-in-three-states/

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.6    2 weeks ago
Tell the truth--would you rather have had Clinton win--even by one vote?

Most definitely. I was not a Hillary fan but she would have at least been respectful of the office and performed like most competent Presidents of the past.

I now have had over 3 years watching the most ignorant, self absorbed, arrogant, narcissistic, incompetent bumbling fool try and pretend to be President so I know there's no way Hillary could have been any worse. Sure, some sad misogynists would have whined and complained simply because she was a woman President, just like they did when we had our first black President, but America would have done just fine. In fact, I firmly believe that if Hillary had been President in January of this year she would have taken the virus seriously and we would have had mandates far earlier for masks and social distancing which would have likely saved tens of thousands of American lives. Dishonest dirty Donald has blood on his hands for being such a monumental stubborn moron.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
6.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @6.1    2 weeks ago

See my comment in 6 above

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.1.9    2 weeks ago

It is nice you have big dreams.

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.12  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.6    2 weeks ago
All this talk of popular vote is meaningless

I agree with you totally-- democracy sucks..

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.13  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.6    2 weeks ago
All this talk of popular vote is meaningless

I agree with you totally-- democracy sucks..

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @6.1.13    2 weeks ago

Actually, I never said one word about democracy sucking.

own it--those are your words alone.

 
 
 
Thomas
6.2  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6    2 weeks ago

by -3,000,000 votes....

The electoral college needs to be scrapped, amongst other things such as any politician with a "D" or an "R" in front of their name.

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
6.2.1  Adam_Selene  replied to  Thomas @6.2    2 weeks ago

Sometimes I think we would be better off to have a lottery  and just draft politicians.

I can hear the excuses now " No, No - I can't be President, I'm an essential worker - I'm a check out person at Piggly Wiggly."

Right now, that sounds like a good excuse.

 
 
 
Krishna
6.2.2  Krishna  replied to  Adam_Selene @6.2.1    2 weeks ago
Sometimes I think we would be better off to have a lottery  and just draft politicians

Given the seriousness of the Corona virus, I think in order to be eligible I think only those who lead by example should be eligible. For starters, only those who wear a mask and practice social distancing!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.2.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Thomas @6.2    2 weeks ago

The EC had is use when first established but now it is a dinosaur.  It is time to let the people choose, not 538 chosen few.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
6.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Thomas @6.2    2 weeks ago

See my comment in 6 above.

 
 
 
badfish
7  badfish    2 weeks ago

I love polls, Democrats over sampling democrats, It was the single greatest thing in our political history.

Prepare your manginas for hurt.

 
 
 
JBB
7.1  JBB  replied to  badfish @7    2 weeks ago
 
 
 
Krishna
7.1.1  Krishna  replied to  JBB @7.1    2 weeks ago
Even Fox News has Trump down by 12%.

Well, I can tell you this: "Many People Are Saying" that Fox news has become Socialist over time! (That I can tell you!!!)

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
7.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JBB @7.1    2 weeks ago

That's if one believes in the accuracy of political polls. I don't!

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
7.2  Adam_Selene  replied to  badfish @7    2 weeks ago

It's a lot easier now since Republicans have been abandoning the party to become "Independents".

No sampling is necessary - just call up all of the remaining 7,000 Trump uses for his rallies...

 
 
 
Krishna
7.3  Krishna  replied to  badfish @7    2 weeks ago

I love polls, Democrats over sampling democrats, It was the single greatest thing in our political history.

Correct! (In fact I voted up that comment!)

BTW, have you ever wondered how come all Democrats are so corrupt-- while all Republicans are always 100% honest?

'Tis a mystery!!!

(Curious minds want to know, etc, etc...)

 
 
 
loki12
7.4  loki12  replied to  badfish @7    2 weeks ago

I’ve seen multiple post online telling people to lie to pollsters.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
7.4.1  r.t..b...  replied to  loki12 @7.4    2 weeks ago
I’ve seen multiple post online telling people to lie to pollsters.

And we've all seen multiple instances and daily tweets where your POTUS is lying to your face.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.4.2  Tessylo  replied to  loki12 @7.4    2 weeks ago

PROVE IT!

 
 
 
loki12
7.4.3  loki12  replied to  r.t..b... @7.4.1    2 weeks ago

Yawn...yes everything is about trump....

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.4.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  r.t..b... @7.4.1    2 weeks ago

I had a pollster call me in 2016 and if I would pull the lever for Trump.  I told him "Only if it releases two cyanide capsules into a bucket of acid."  He hung up on me.  Pollsters just have no sense of humor I guess.

 
 
 
pat wilson
7.4.5  pat wilson  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.4.4    2 weeks ago

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Ed-NavDoc
7.4.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.4.4    2 weeks ago

Now that is a good one!jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.4.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @7.4.6    2 weeks ago

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loki12
8  loki12    2 weeks ago

Is there a democrat in congress who isn’t senile or insane?

The stupid pandering senile old bitch just made the greatest Freudian slip in history, the crime bill is worthy of the name George Kirby? This I have to agree, it’s only worthy of a dead comedian.

And Schumer has completely fucked the name up not just once but twice, George Taylor? 

 
 
 
Krishna
9  Krishna    2 weeks ago

This conversation is getting to be soooo boring. I'm afraid I'm going to leave for another conversation...will have to do my trolling (well,its actually more like "toting the line") in another equally erudite discussion. TTFN (and to all a good nite)

 
 
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