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With crime soaring, Minneapolis City Council flips on 'defund the police'

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  4 years ago  •  12 comments

By:   Post Editorial Board (New York Post)

With crime soaring, Minneapolis City Council flips on 'defund the police'
Months after caving to riotous mobs, the members of the Minneapolis City Council are complaining about the city's crime surge and insisting they never really meant it when they voted to defund the police department.

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Just a reminder, Joe Biden opposes defunding police (whatever that sound bite means).  Joe Biden has a plan, a big beautiful plan , to throw more money at the police, establish commissions, and add social workers to the police beats.

Joe Biden is advocating a kinder, gentler way to ignore the problem of crime that communities are dealing with.  At least the social workers will be on hand to empathize with the victims that politicians are ignoring.


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Months after caving to riotous mobs, the members of the Minneapolis City Council are complaining about the city's crime surge and insisting they never really meant it when they voted to defund the police department.

Councilman Phillipe Cunningham says the defunding measure is "up for interpretation," the New York Times reports, and now the council's majority has "interpreted that language differently."

Council President Lisa Bender claims, "Our pledge created confusion." Maybe she's confused, since she'd earlier been accusing cops of intentionally avoiding making arrests or otherwise enforcing laws.

Minneapolis City Council member Alondra Cano and her colleagues are complaining about the apparent results of their vote to defund the police department.AP

Indeed, much of the council complained to Police Chief Medaria Arradondo about the rise in carjackings, robberies, assaults and shootings. "Residents are asking, 'Where are the police?'  " noted Councilman Jamal Osman, saying citizens "rely on MPD. And they are saying they are nowhere to be seen."

Arradondo, while vowing "to be responsive," said about 100 officers have quit or taken leaves of absence, more than twice the usual rate. (He didn't bother blaming the council's defunding vote.)

Just as in New York, the residents of Minneapolis are learning that "violence interrupters" are no help: To keep the peace, you need police.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    4 years ago

I'm old enough to remember when political attention on crime was focused on how the victims were treated and not on how the criminals were treated.  

When did criminals become victims?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Nerm_L @1    4 years ago

When Democrats needed votes, and turned criminals into victims.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    4 years ago

Defund The Police is not so much anti-police as it is about using some funding normally used for police on alternatives like getting social workers and peace officers involved in minor domestic disputes, traffic offenses and neighborhood disputes instead of armed police officers who often escalate violence unnecessarily and are neither trained nor equipped to deal with family situations, mental illness etc...

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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2.1  MonsterMash  replied to  JBB @2    4 years ago

Police get called to an armed robbery at a convenience store, the criminal is pointing a gun at the cashier.

Cop to the cashier: "Sorry, I can't get involved until we get a social worker here" Result:.Criminal shots the cashier and the police officer.

Police called to a domestic dispute: Police observe a man with a knife running after a woman..

Woman: "HELP HELP HE'S TRYING TO KILL ME "

Police: "Sorry lady, we can't do a thing until a social worker arrives."

Result: Man stabs woman to death.

Consequnce: Woman's family sues police for failure to stop murder.

Man gets pulled over for speeding:

Cop starts writting a ticket. Driver: "You're escalting this situation, I demand a social worker"

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JBB  replied to  MonsterMash @2.1    4 years ago

A mental patient is off his meds and being disorderly. The cops suffocate him with a plastic bag over head. A child is in a park bothering nobody with toy gun? A cop shoots him dead on sight. A man tries to pass a bad $20. A cop kneels on his neck till he is dead. Or, the cops are serving a minor drug warrant at the wrong address and shoot an innocent man. What about cops making a traffic stop who shoot an unarmed driver for merely resisting?

How about we let the cops deal with real crimes and let peace officer and social workers deal with traffic stops, domestic disputes, nonviolent mental patients and minor drug and alcohol abusers? 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    4 years ago

You will have a shitload of dead "peace officers".

Or do you think they can predict in advance when a situation is going to deadly?

How about we get Democrats out of office until they grow the fuck up and stop turning criminals into martyrs and heroes?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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2.1.3  MonsterMash  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.2    4 years ago

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Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3  Mark in Wyoming     4 years ago

Sounds to me like any place that has adopted this  idea , wishes to have the current coverage ( public service0 , for a lot less money.

the unintended consequence of course is that public service is provided by people , whom have their own choices to make , and it does not nessisarily have to be because of finances . if doing the "JOB " is outweighed by other factors , then its becomes not worth it to those that will be doing the job.

I think , as the article states , there will be an increase in retirements , people taking other jobs in other jurisdictions , or getting completely out of the public service sector of LEO anyplace this becomes a question or an issue.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    4 years ago
to throw more money at the police, establish commissions, and add social workers to the police beats.

Put that way, that actually sounds like the beginnings of a good strategy because it doesn't decrease the number of cops or their resources. It seeks to reform. Defunding or disbanding the police is stupid.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
5  Gazoo    4 years ago

I guess the advice the city council gave to citizens to give up your wallet, cell phone, keys, anything of value, to criminal isn’t working out?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1  Ronin2  replied to  Gazoo @5    4 years ago

Sure it is for the criminals- which is the reason why crime is on the rise.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
5.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1    4 years ago

Ok, i didn’t look at it from the dem perspective lol.

 
 

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