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Biden's Hispanic approval ratings plummets to 26% in new poll

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  2 years ago  •  79 comments

By:   Anders Hagstrom (Fox News)

Biden's Hispanic approval ratings plummets to 26% in new poll
Biden is less popular among Hispanics than any other demographic. Black Americans are the only demographic in which Biden has a positive approval rating, according to the poll.

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How low can Joe go?  Looks like there's no Biden bottom; he's losing his backside.

Will the midterm election turn out to be a referendum on Democrats' Black politics?  Apparently there's a growing need to throw someone under the bus.  That's how Democrats' have always handled these situations.


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President Biden's approval rating among Hispanic Americans has plummeted to 26%, according to a Wednesday poll from Quinnipiac University.

Biden is less popular among Hispanics than any other demographic, including age and gender, the poll found. The same Quinnipiac poll conducted last year put Hispanic support for Biden at 55%.

Biden has been consistently hitting new lows in the polls for nearly a year.

Young Americans and White men also have low approvals for Biden, at 27% and 29% respectively.

The president's highest approval ratings are among Americans older than 65 and black Americans, at 45% and 63% respectively. Black Americans are the only demographic in which Biden has a positive approval rating, according to the poll.

Biden has faced heavy criticism for his handling of the ongoing crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border.

The poll comes days before the Biden administration plans to end Title 42, a Trump-era COVID-19 rule allowing border officials to speedily deport most migrants. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas has acknowledged that ending the rule will only exacerbate the ongoing surge.

The Biden administration has repeatedly argued that the surges at the border are following a year pattern. While the southern border has seen a pattern of increases in migration each spring, the surges in both 2021 and 2022 have far outpaced previous years.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    2 years ago

How's Democrats' laser focus on identity politics working out?  Another summer of unrest in cities around the country ought to do the trick.

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1  Revillug  replied to  Nerm_L @1    2 years ago
How's Democrats' laser focus on identity politics working out?

I would say it's not working out as well as the GOP's laser focus on Identity Politics.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Revillug @1.1    2 years ago

Depends on which part of the country you're in. I live in rural Cochise County in SE Arizona where there is obviously a higher concentration of Hispanics than other areas. I am of Mexican American heritage myself and live 6 blocks from the border fence. Due to Biden's border policy fiascos, he is not well thought of in my neck of the desert whether it be by Hispanic  conservatives on the right or Hispanic liberal Democrats. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Revillug @1.1    2 years ago
I would say it's not working out as well as the GOP's laser focus on Identity Politics.

You're confused.  It's Democrats that laser focus on Identity Politics.  Republicans laser focus on the Culture War.

Democrats talk about who we are.  Republicans talk about why we are.

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.3  Revillug  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.2    2 years ago
Democrats talk about who we are.  Republicans talk about why we are.

I'm going to have to ponder what you are trying to say here. It's catchy but I am not sure it is correct.

To me Identity Politics is a style of politics where you cultivate a voter base that will become single issue voters based on the groups they identify with and feel they belong to.

The Democrats have tried to assemble a coalition of basically everyone who is not a white male. They would like the Venn Diagram of the conjunction of all women plus all people of color to outnumber and defeat white male political and social power. They yap all day long about white supremacy and patriarchy and somehow are oblivious to how transparent the power grab is and how off-putting it is.

Republicans, to my surprise, have been pretty good with their own Venn Diagrams of attracting basically all white people and all men. The head of the Proud Boys on Jan 6 was a black man for crying out loud.

These simple Venn Diagrams aren't perfect predictors of voter behavior but attempting to win with anti-white politics turned out to be pretty foolish considering white people are still a substantial majority of Americans. 

LatinX is probably the dumbest and most counter productive word the left in America ever invented. It steps on two words, Latino and Latina, which hispanics were quite comfortable with and communicates that the left sees them as a huge non-binary gender coalition eager to take on white supremacy and patriarchy. As Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio show hispanics fit quite nicely into the GOP demographic tent and I doubt either of them will ever be caught dead filling in a check box claiming that they are LatinX. 

Sadly, I think the Democrats are just going to double down on their folly and wait until white people are an actual minority in this country. They (the party I belong to) are incapable of reflecting on the mistakes they make. They are more likely these days to consider any form of criticism to be hate speech rather than to be willing learn from it.

They will be more than happy to raise money from small donors as an out of power minority party.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Revillug @1.1.3    2 years ago
To me Identity Politics is a style of politics where you cultivate a voter base that will become single issue voters based on the groups they identify with and feel they belong to

To me Identity Politics is the demand for recognition on the basis of a group, racial, religious, gender, sexual orientation, etc.  It's less about recognition and respect because we share the goals and values of Americans that it is a demand for recognition and respect because my identity is different.  An example would be Black Lives Matter not All Lives Matter.  

Identity Politics also includes the notion that if you don't share that identity, you can never understand the member of another group.  You can't understand LBGTQ if your straight. You can't appropriate my culture because they belong to my group.   Or if fail to acknowledge “white supremacy” in America, you are a racist.

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.5  Revillug  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.4    2 years ago

In a sense you are discussing Identity as opposed to Identity Politics.

NPR is like a 24/7 Identity seminar these days. You can't get through 10 minutes before you hear the buzz words. Non-binary. Impact. Marginalized Communities. Intersectionality. White Privilege. Patriarchy. You might never guess from listening to NPR that about 87% of their listeners are white.

I live in NYC which is famously diverse. But I have seen more than a few political campaigns which are simply leaning heavily into "vote for me because I am one of you." I have seen a campaign with robo-calls telling the Dominican community not to vote for "La Cubana." If I recall correctly, AOC's first campaign had some posters/fliers that read "It is time for one of us." The political coattails in NYC are often populated solely with people who look exactly like the person wearing the coat with the tails.

Who needs issues when you can run on tribal membership like they do in Iraq and Afghanistan? The only issue left at the end of the day with Identity Politics is vanquishing our foes. It's not the sort of politics that works on coalition building.

Political affiliation for many people is an identify almost as salient as any other group they belong to. But it is possible to become alienated and drop an affiliation. In fact, it is a lot easier than gender reassignment. 

 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Revillug @1.1.5    2 years ago
You might never guess from listening to NPR that about 87% of their listeners are white.

I’ve always guessed that most of their listeners were white liberals.

I live in NYC which is famously diverse.

Isn’t it also famously segregated?

The only issue left at the end of the day with Identity Politics is vanquishing our foes. It's not the sort of politics that works on coalition building.

Exactly.

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.7  Revillug  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.6    2 years ago
Isn’t it also famously segregated?

Yeah, I think hear that mentioned from time to time on NPR.

Some people here don't seem to be willing to admit that the GOP is deploying white Identity Politics.

I find that kind of puzzling. The GOP has been very good at "othering" many of the groups that flock to the Democrats' brand of Identity Politics. The Southern Strategy that Nixon came up with was a master stroke of white Identity Politics and it basically continues to work to this day.

Democrats also get pretty angry when you suggest they are relying heavily on Identity Politics. And it didn't them long to start talking about how overturning Roe v. Wade is ultimately a threat to gay and transgender rights. Listening to the chatter one might occasionally need to remind oneself that Roe v. Wade is about women's access to abortion.

I get dismissed as a concern troll using what-about-isms when I say that both our major parties are relying heavily on Identity Politics and that does a disservice to us all. But I think we all need to own that.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Revillug @1.1.7    2 years ago
The Southern Strategy that Nixon came up with was a master stroke of white Identity Politics and it basically continues to work to this day.

Exactly, without it HHH and George McGovern would have surely gotten the Southern vote. 

But I think we all need to own that.

I agree.

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.9  Revillug  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.8    2 years ago
Exactly, without it HHH and George McGovern would have surely gotten the Southern vote.

Lyndon Johnson admitted privately that the south was lost for a generation after signing the Civil Rights Bill but that doesn't mean explicitly deploying racist dog whistle (bullhorn) politics is any less odious even if it was inevitable.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Revillug @1.1.9    2 years ago

I understand that FDR went to Dallas to unveil a Robert E Lee statue in 1936 and said:

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.”

Part of FDR’s Southern Strategy?

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.12  Revillug  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.10    2 years ago

FDR came a long way in his lifetime. He deserves credit for that. More credit than the Democrats are often willing to give. They look at his domestic agenda and act like it was a mere fig leaf for the Vietnam War. I think they get it backwards. The Vietnam War was his cross to bear and his domestic agenda was his passion project.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Revillug @1.1.12    2 years ago
They look at his domestic agenda and act like it was a mere fig leaf for the Vietnam War. I think they get it backwards. The Vietnam War was his cross to bear and his domestic agenda was his passion project.

I think that you have confused FDR with LBJ.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.11    2 years ago

Robert E Lee led an army , literally, to try and protect the institution of slavery. 

That seems to me to be kind of the definition unacceptable activity. 

For a long long time after the Civil War those who promoted a southern version of Civil War and slavery era events had success in convincing both the media and a lot of people that the South was a noble place and it's "lost cause" had been valiant.  We know better now.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.15  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.14    2 years ago
We know better now.  

Do you think that FDR knew better then?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.16    2 years ago
Statues taken down, streets renamed, parks renamed?

Yep. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.19  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.18    2 years ago

80 years ago, FDR signed Executive Order 9066. That order put around 120,000 Japanese Americans into concentration camps without any due process.  An Asian-American hate crime?

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.21  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.19    2 years ago
80 years ago, FDR signed Executive Order 9066. That order put around 120,000 Japanese Americans into concentration camps without any due process.  An Asian-American hate crime?

Actually, they were ''internment camps'' not concentration camps. Yes, FDR signed EO 9066 to his lasting shame but the actual architects were John J. McCloy, assistant secretary of war, and three U. S. Army officers, Major General Alien W. Gullion, Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, and Colonel Karl R. Bendesten. In developing the relocation policy these men had the full cooperation and support of Earl Warren, (yes, that Earl Warren later chief justice of SCOTUS) who held the positions of attorney general and governor of California during the Second World War.

There was another group that suffered the same fate as the Japanese. They were the Aleut people of Alaska (Alaska Natives) around 1,000 of them were put in ''internment camp'' and 10% died of malnutrition, lack of medical care and hypothermia. Oh, they were never allowed to return to their homeland in the Aleutian Islands. When the Japanese were awarded $20,000 each for the interment the Aleut people were only given $12,000 each. 

If it's an Asian-American hate crime shouldn't Chief Justice Earl Warren bare some responsibility for it?

Another thing that brings up an interesting question is why of the 150,000 Japanese living in Hawaii only around 2,000 were incarcerated? Could it have been more about property and businesses than being Japanese?

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.22  Revillug  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.13    2 years ago

I have!

You know who else came a long way in his life?

FDR.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.23  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @1.1.21    2 years ago

Kavika, thanks, good information.  I was ignorant of the Aleut side of this tragedy.  Of course many are to blame and racism and desire for well tended properly were part of the motivation.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.24  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.23    2 years ago

Sadly that is far from the end of it. 40 Aleut were taken POW by the Japanese and taken to Japan only half survived the war. They received nothing from the US government. While the US had next to nothing to defend Alaska the Territorial Guard AKA Eskimo Scouts was formed and around 7,000 served guarding the Alaska coastline they were from the  Aleut Athabaskan White Inupiaq Haida Tlingit Tsimshian Yupik , and were promised veteran status. As usual, the US government forgot about that promise and it wasn't until 2000 that those still alive were granted veteran status, appx 1500 to 2000. Many Alaska Natives fought in both Europe and the Pacific campaigns.

Oh, the Eskimo Scouts served without pay.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.25  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Revillug @1.1.3    2 years ago
To me Identity Politics is a style of politics where you cultivate a voter base that will become single issue voters based on the groups they identify with and feel they belong to.

Identity politics makes people the topic of discussion.  Identity politics tend to draw attention to an individual and make that individual a charismatic prototypical icon for an identity.  The individual becomes the whole.  George Floyd wasn't a guy that was murdered; George Floyd was an iconographic martyr for all Black people.  Derek Chauvin was the archetype for all cops.

Republicans, to my surprise, have been pretty good with their own Venn Diagrams of attracting basically all white people and all men. The head of the Proud Boys on Jan 6 was a black man for crying out loud.

That statement is an example of identity politics.  The line up of Republican candidates for the 2016 Republican Presidential primaries was actually as diverse (if not more diverse) than is typical for Democrat Presidential primaries.  Melania Trump is an immigrant from eastern Europe.  But that doesn't fit the identity that Democrats have created for Republicans. 

Your Venn Diagram doesn't fit reality.  Enrique Tarrio (the head of the Proud Boys) is Cuban.  How can Tarrio be a white supremacist?  Democrats have created an identity for Republicans and everyone that Democrats oppose must be forced into that Republican identity by any irrational means.

Sadly, I think the Democrats are just going to double down on their folly and wait until white people are an actual minority in this country. They (the party I belong to) are incapable of reflecting on the mistakes they make. They are more likely these days to consider any form of criticism to be hate speech rather than to be willing learn from it.

White people becoming an actual minority will not happen.  Hispanic immigrants are predominantly white and self identify as white.  The United States is actually becoming more white.  Democrats are attempting to impose a separate and distinct identity onto Hispanics.  But the problem is that immigrants are integrating into society and won't stay confined in Democrats' arbitrary identity box.

Republicans have an advantage longer term because Republicans talk about why being an American is important.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.26  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Kavika @1.1.21    2 years ago
Actually, they were ''internment camps'' not concentration camps. Yes, FDR signed EO 9066 to his lasting shame but the actual architects were John J. McCloy, assistant secretary of war, and three U. S. Army officers, Major General Alien W. Gullion, Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, and Colonel Karl R. Bendesten. In developing the relocation policy these men had the full cooperation and support of Earl Warren, (yes, that Earl Warren later chief justice of SCOTUS) who held the positions of attorney general and governor of California during the Second World War.

Not all people of Japanese descent in the United States were interned. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.1.27  1stwarrior  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.13    2 years ago

Getting ready to say that.  We had Truman and Eisenhower after FDR and Eisenhower implemented the "Advisor" role for Vietnam in '56.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.28  afrayedknot  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.26    2 years ago

“Not all people of Japanese descent in the United States were interned.”

That a single Japanese-American was interned was inexcusable. Added to our treatment of Native Americans, and the generations long treatment of the descendants of slaves, just another stain that cannot be washed clean.

Relatively easy to acknowledge the common thread. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.29  afrayedknot  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.25    2 years ago

“Republicans have an advantage longer term because Republicans talk about why being an American is important.”

Substitute ‘white’ for ‘American’ and you may have a point. Today’s gop does not espouse traditional American values, they use them as a cudgel to deride and divide in desperation. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.30  Sparty On  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.28    2 years ago

Hindsight has the advantage of having nearly perfect 20-20 vision.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.31  Sparty On  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.29    2 years ago
they use them as a cudgel to deride and divide in desperation. 

Sorry but you appear to be projecting ..... badly!

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.32  Kavika   replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.26    2 years ago
Not all people of Japanese descent in the United States were interned. 

Is that supposed to be some type of defense of what we Americans did to fellow Americans?

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.33  Revillug  replied to  Kavika @1.1.32    2 years ago

Maybe he is just complaining about inefficient government.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.34  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Kavika @1.1.32    2 years ago
Is that supposed to be some type of defense of what we Americans did to fellow Americans?

Not 'we Americans'.  The Japanese internment was a west coast policy driven primarily by California politics.  Don't blame all of America for California's stain on history.

The Japanese internment is just another example (among many) of how bicoastal politics has been an ever present threat to the United States.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.35  Kavika   replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.34    2 years ago
Not 'we Americans'.  The Japanese internment was a west coast policy driven primarily by California politics.  Don't blame all of America for California's stain on history.

The vast majority of Japanese at the start of WWII lived in WN, OR, CA, and the territory of Hawaii so of course, the military areas imposed by the military would be on the WC since that was where most Japanese lived and it was the closest to Japan....How many Japanese lived in Minnesota in 1940, do you have any idea Nerm..It was a grand total of 50. The govenor of CA at that time was Earl Warren a republican...

Did the governor of MN or the congressman or senators speak out against the internment..NO they did not, in fact only one politician in the US spoke out against it and he was the Governor of Colorado, Ralph Carr. 

Do you have any idea where the internment camps were located, Nerm? This is where,  California, Arizona, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, and Arkansas. How many are coastal, Nerm?

The Japanese internment is just another example (among many) of how bicoastal politics has been an ever present threat to the United States. 

 What a load of shit, you have no idea of what in the hell you're talking about. Take a damn good look at the state you live in if you want an example of policies that have been a threat to the US and minorities, do you need a history lesson on it. I was born and raised there so don't try to bullshit me. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Nerm_L @1    2 years ago

C’mon man!  

Biden is working on getting things wrong for 50 years now.    There is a better than even chance he is not going buck that trend.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Sparty On @1.2    2 years ago
C’mon man!   Biden is working on getting things wrong for 50 years now.    There is a better than even chance he is not going buck that trend.

Biden is a true blue Democrat and proves it every day.

Now Biden is trying to revive the Korean War.  Let's party like it's 1950.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @1.2    2 years ago

Yep, and he is still successful at getting them wrong. Why mess up a track record?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.3  1stwarrior  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.1    2 years ago

How do you say IDIOT when that person states that the U.S. will jump in to help Taiwan "if" China continues with its actions???

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.3    2 years ago

Only two words to describe Biden's latest foul up and that's "Oh s#*t!"

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.5  Sparty On  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.4    2 years ago

Lol .... how about ..... C’mon man!
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Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.5    2 years ago

Yep, that too!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @1    2 years ago
How's Democrats' laser focus on identity politics working out? 

It didn't take long for the family oriented, religious Hispanic population to figure out where the democratic party stands.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    2 years ago

Ay Carumba!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @2    2 years ago

La verdad!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

I wonder how bad Biden's poll numbers really are?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 years ago

We’ll find out in November.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @4.1    2 years ago

For many it can't get here fast enough!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 years ago

Oh, the whine will just get louder.    The folks involved are chronically deranged and will just move on to the next cookie jar when refused a cookie.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

For many it can't get here fast enough!

 
 

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