Pelosi says farmers need illegal immigrants 'to pick the crops' in Florida

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  2 months ago  •  50 comments

By:   Adam Shaw (Fox News)

Pelosi says farmers need illegal immigrants 'to pick the crops' in Florida
We have a shortage of workers in our country

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The political rhetoric by prominent Democrats is timeless.  If only we had not ended the institution of slavery ...

Democrats made these same 'economic' arguments to defend (and expand) the institution of slavery.  Slaves did the work that Americans wouldn't do.  And abolishing slavery would threaten the economic growth and prosperity of the United States.  The United States could not produce cotton without slave labor and the economy of the United States would falter, wither, and fail.  Consumers depended upon slave labor for low prices and abundant supply.

Nancy Pelosi is no different than John C. Calhoun.  Pelosi is promoting exploitation of human labor as some sort of benevolent kindness.  And you, as a consumer, will benefit so you should support the practice.

Pelosi is engaging in the ugliest and dirtiest politics from our country's past.  And there are many Democrats who loudly defend Pelosi's political rhetoric.  Being 'woke' apparently doesn't have anything to do with being enlightened.  The ends justify the means and the rewards only go to who gets the most votes.


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Twitter melted down after a recent clip featured Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi claiming that Floridian farmers "need" illegal immigrants to stay in their state and "pick the crops."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday said that farmers in Florida need illegal immigrants "to pick the crops" as she called for "comprehensive immigration reform" and said there was a shortage of workers in the U.S.

Pelosi was asked about whether the southern border is secure, and responded by saying that while "we have a responsibility to secure our border, we also have a responsibility to recognize the importance of newcomers to our nation."

"Right now, the best thing that we can do for our economy is comprehensive immigration reform," she said. Democratic proposals for such reform typically include sweeping amnesties for illegal immigrants already in the U.S.

Pelosi then pressed her economic argument and made reference to recent moves by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other Republican governors to move illegal immigrants north to places like Martha's Vineyard, New York City and Washington, D.C.

"We have a shortage of workers in our country, and you see even in Florida, some of the farmers and the growers saying, 'Why are you shipping these immigrants up North? We need them to pick the crops down here,'" she said.

Pelosi's remarks come as the U.S. remains in the throes of a historic border crisis which has seen more than 2.1 million migrant encounters this fiscal year, and more than 200,000 migrant encounters in August alone. It is the ongoing nature of the crisis that has led Republican governors to bus and fly migrants further north. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has bussed more than 10,000 migrants to Washington, D.C., New York City and Chicago, while DeSantis sparked outrage from Democrats when his office flew about 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard.

Republicans have blamed Biden administration policies, as well as incentives offered by "sanctuary" cities, for fueling the crisis. Democrats and the Biden administration have blamed the Trump administration for rolling back legal asylum pathways, and have used the crisis to renew their calls for a pathway to citizenship for millions already in the country illegally.

Vice President Kamala Harris recently claimed the border is "secure" while also calling for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

"I think that there is no question that we have to do what the president and I asked Congress to do, the first request we made: pass a bill to create a pathway to citizenship," Harris said on "Meet the Press" this month. "The border is secure, but we also have a broken immigration system, in particular, over the last four years before we came in, and it needs to be fixed."

It wasn't a statement that Pelosi appeared to be ready to endorse on Friday.

"I believe that we have to have a secure border. And I think that we are trying to address… the president has a plan to address that," she said.

Adam Shaw is a politics reporter for Fox News Digital, primarily covering immigration and border security.

He can be reached at adam.shaw2@fox.com or on Twitter.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    2 months ago

Democrats are still Democrats.  Some things won't change.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago
Pelosi then pressed her economic argument and made reference to recent moves by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other Republican governors to move illegal immigrants north to places like Martha's Vineyard, New York City and Washington, D.C. "We have a shortage of workers in our country, and you see even in Florida, some of the farmers and the growers saying, 'Why are you shipping these immigrants up North? We need them to pick the crops down here,'" she said.

So the House Drunk wants to treat illegals as slaves?  I will give her credit, she is staying in line with her party's history

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Masters Silent
3  SteevieGee    2 months ago

Show me where she said "illegal immigrants".

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  SteevieGee @3    2 months ago

She cleverly forgot to say the words "illegal or phony asylum seeker"

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Masters Silent
3.1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    2 months ago
She cleverly forgot to say the words "illegal or phony asylum seeker"

So...  The entire article is crap then.  There are lots and lots of legal, green card holding migrants out there.  Often the only way they can get here is to apply for asylum.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    2 months ago

If you watch the video and listen to her words, she hesitated for a few seconds before she said migrants. You KNOW she was thinking of saying illegal, but would be roasted by her own lunatics of she did.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.1    2 months ago
So...  The entire article is crap then. 

It shows what democrats think of the people they have pandered to.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2  Texan1211  replied to  SteevieGee @3    2 months ago
Show me where she said "illegal immigrants".

You are in danger of having your 'woke' card revoked.

Come on, man, everyone knows Democrats can't say those words together!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
3.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  SteevieGee @3    2 months ago
Show me where she said "illegal immigrants".

Show me where Pelosi said that immigration policy is for the benefit of immigrants.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Masters Silent
3.3.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3    2 months ago

Did she say that?  I didn't think so.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
3.3.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  SteevieGee @3.3.1    2 months ago
Did she say that?  I didn't think so.

Congrats!  That's a slam dunk.  So, what was Pelosi talking about?

 
 
 
squiggy
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3.4  squiggy  replied to  SteevieGee @3    2 months ago

You might recognize it as 'those people'.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    2 months ago

"I believe that we have to have a secure border. And I think that we are trying to address… the president has a plan to address that," she said."

The plan appears to be kicking it down the road to president DeSantis and his Republican Congress 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @4    2 months ago
"I believe that we have to have a secure border. And I think that we are trying to address… the president has a plan to address that," she said."

She, being a deceitful, lying bitch, may well indeed believe that we need to have a secure border, but her actions say otherwise.

Why do Democrats always want to start securing the border by granting millions of lawbreakers amnesty?

The President has a plan?!?? Who in the holy hell does she think she is fooling with such a stupid-ass remark? We know he has no plan!

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     2 months ago

Florida amended the Florida E Verify law to exempt agribusiness. It was signed by DeSantis.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5    2 months ago
Florida amended the Florida E Verify law to exempt agribusiness. It was signed by DeSantis in 2020.

Might want to pass that info along to Pelosi.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1    2 months ago
Might want to pass that info along to Pelosi.

No need since the Florida legislature and governor is well aware that agribusiness in Florida is reliant on immigrant labor of which 42% were undocumented in 2020. 

That is why agribusiness was exempted from our E Verify law. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    2 months ago

Doesn't seem like Nancy has gotten the memo, or why else would she make such silly comments?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.2    2 months ago

Botox poisoning to the brain ....

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.2    2 months ago
why else would she make such silly comments?

Alcohol.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    2 months ago
No need since the Florida legislature and governor is well aware that agribusiness in Florida is reliant on immigrant labor of which 42% were undocumented in 2020.

I'm pretty sure if we didn't have immigrant labor most of us would be quite a lot thinner than we are.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.6  Kavika   replied to  Jack_TX @5.1.5    2 months ago
I'm pretty sure if we didn't have immigrant labor most of us would be quite a lot thinner than we are.

Without a doubt or try working the fields and see the weight disappear.

 
 
 
George
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5.1.7  George  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    2 months ago

Can you link to the part of the law that requires private businesses to use E-verify?

Private employers are not required to use the E-Verify system unless they have a contract with a public employer, or they apply for taxpayer-funded incentives through the state Department of Economic Opportunity.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.8  Kavika   replied to  George @5.1.7    2 months ago

Since you know the answer there George perhaps you can explain why the Florida legislature found it necessary to exempt agribusiness. 

Perhaps this is the reason:

On June 30, 2020, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed  Senate Bill (SB) 664  into law which makes the use of E-Verify mandatory for all government employers, contractors, and certain private employers in the state beginning on January 1, 2021. The law also requires private employers who choose NOT to use E-Verify to maintain copies of the documents used to complete the I-9 for a period of 3 years.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5.1.9  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  George @5.1.7    2 months ago
Can you link to the part of the law that requires private businesses to use E-verify? Private employers are not required to use the E-Verify system unless they have a contract with a public employer, or they apply for taxpayer-funded incentives through the state Department of Economic Opportunity.

Ain't it interesting that these discussions always seem to focus attention on agribusiness?  The discussion never seems to include property development even though we know a lot of illegal immigrants are employed in construction.

The IRS handing out tax IDs seems to obviate the need for e-verify anyway.  And waiting for an asylum hearing doesn't prohibit illegal immigrants from working.

Democrats talk a lot about a pathway to citizenship.  But the reality is that a hearing date is a pathway to legal residence.  Assigning a hearing date gives legal status for illegal immigrants to live and work in the United States.  A hearing date provides access to public education, public health care, and public assistance programs since there is legal status to reside in the United States.

Illegal immigrants apply for asylum so they can get a hearing date that allows them legal status to live and work in the United States.  E-verify really won't do anything under those circumstances.

 
 
 
George
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5.1.10  George  replied to  Nerm_L @5.1.9    2 months ago

The last I read, realizing there could be an EO changing it, but don’t asylum seekers have to have their hearing, or be here for a year before they can apply for a work permit?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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5.1.11  afrayedknot  replied to  Nerm_L @5.1.9    2 months ago

“Illegal immigrants apply for asylum so they can get a hearing date that allows them legal status to live and work in the United States.”

So let us put our resources toward enabling any seeking asylum a timely hearing. It is ridiculous that it takes months, if not years, to adjudicate theses cases.

Spend the money already allocated up front and avoid the greater costs that come with kicking the can down the road. An easy win, win…economically, judicially, and humanitarianly…if we could ignore the political motivations that inherently bog everything down.

Let’s talk to the issue for once, rather than talk at it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.1.8    2 months ago
The law also requires private employers who choose NOT to use E-Verify to maintain copies of the documents used to complete the I-9 for a period of 3 years.

So, very much similar to federal law regarding retention of I-9's.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5.1.13  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1.11    2 months ago
So let us put our resources toward enabling any seeking asylum a timely hearing. It is ridiculous that it takes months, if not years, to adjudicate theses cases.

Spend the money already allocated up front and avoid the greater costs that come with kicking the can down the road. An easy win, win…economically, judicially, and humanitarianly…if we could ignore the political motivations that inherently bog everything down.

Let’s talk to the issue for once, rather than talk at it. 

That seems logical.  Keep in mind that only 25 to 50 pct of asylum requests are granted.  Speeding the hearings would dramatically reduce the number of illegal immigrants allowed to legally stay in the country.  So much for more workers.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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5.1.14  afrayedknot  replied to  Nerm_L @5.1.13    2 months ago

“So much for more workers.”

And hence the old ‘follow the money’ adage…it’s on the employers and the regulators and the ability to work around the existing laws without consequence. 

 
 
 
George
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5.1.15  George  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.12    2 months ago

Weird how that evil DeSantis signed an exemption for companies that didn’t need it.

Do you know who needed Agri businesses to be excepted? The state! Because they couldn’t by their fruits and vegetables unless they followed e verify. Can you imagine how much the lunches would have cost?

 
 
 
George
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5.1.16  George  replied to  Kavika @5.1.8    2 months ago

You do know that only applies to businesses that do business with the state! Right? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  George @5.1.15    2 months ago
Weird how that evil DeSantis signed an exemption for companies that didn’t need it.

He is one cagey old cuss, isn't he?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
5.1.18  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1.14    2 months ago
And hence the old ‘follow the money’ adage…it’s on the employers and the regulators and the ability to work around the existing laws without consequence. 

Kinda puts Pelosi's remarks in perspective, doesn't it?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
5.1.19  afrayedknot  replied to  Nerm_L @5.1.18    2 months ago

“Kinda puts Pelosi's remarks in perspective, doesn't it?”

Let us not discount the term ‘systemic’ when discussing anything. 

 
 
 
squiggy
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5.1.20  squiggy  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1.11    2 months ago
So let us put our resources toward enabling any seeking asylum a timely hearing.

No attorney wants a speedy trial for his guilty client.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
5.1.21  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  George @5.1.10    2 months ago
The last I read, realizing there could be an EO changing it, but don’t asylum seekers have to have their hearing, or be here for a year before they can apply for a work permit?

There are loopholes within loopholes.  Someone seeking asylum can be granted temporary protected status which includes authorization to work; not a work permit but essentially the same as a work permit.  

Temporary protected status is dependent upon country of origin (there are 27 countries on the list).  Currently those asylum seekers from El Salvador, Haiti, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Venezuela are eligible for temporary protected status while awaiting adjudication of an asylum request.  Being granted a hearing date really does provide a pathway for illegal immigrants from these countries to legally reside and work in the United States.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6  Sparty On    2 months ago

Pelosi thinks Fla needs more immigrants to .... jump down, turn around, pick a bail of cotton ..... jump down, turn around and pick a bail a day ......

 
 
 
George
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7  George    2 months ago

Is it any surprise that a democrat wants slave labor to pick crops? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8  Tacos!    2 months ago

Congress has nearly 3 dozen members who are immigrants. I wonder if she thinks they should be picking crops.

 
 
 
George
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8.1  George  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 months ago

Only the non-whites.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Quiet
8.2  squiggy  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 months ago

That's how ordinary strawberries become organic for $4.50 a pound.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9  Sparty On    2 months ago

Can you imagine the melt down by the left if a Republican had said this?     It would be the lead story everywhere..... The gnashing of Democrat teeth would be heard in space ...

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1  bugsy  replied to  Sparty On @9    2 months ago
It would be the lead story everywhere..... The gnashing of Democrat teeth would be heard in space ...

THEN they would quietly demand these people be used as cheap labor to pick crops.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  bugsy @9.1    2 months ago

And cut their grass ....

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Sparty On @9.1.1    2 months ago
And cut their grass ....

Clean their houses, wash their cars and raise their kids.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  bugsy @9.1.2    2 months ago

And make them a sandwich 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
9.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @9    2 months ago
Can you imagine the melt down by the left if a Republican had said this?

That's the thing.  It wasn't a republican that said it.  We all know democrats are given special treatment even for the racist shit like this.  Hell look at what they put in the WH.  Look at the history of the democrats.  None of it is acceptable.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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10  Thrawn 31    2 months ago

And? Of course we do, they have been a majority of the labor force for those jobs for decades. What is the issue:?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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11  Ed-NavDoc    2 months ago

If Pelosi and her her ilk are serious. They need to revive the "Guest Worker" or "Bracero" temporary worker programs and do things legally. I believe it was the Democrats that terminated those programs but I could be mistaken.

 
 

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