The Jan. 6 committee will take up criminal referrals against Donald Trump
By: Barbara Sprunt, Claudia Grisales (NPR. org)
Damned well better make criminal referrals. And they better be spectacular. Otherwise the public may think this House committee was only a political sham.
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The House Select Jan. 6 Committee will take up criminal referrals against former President Donald Trump on at least two charges: obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress and conspiracy to defraud the United States, according to a source familiar with the committee's discussions but not authorized to speak publicly on the plans.
The referrals will be voted on Monday, during what's very likely to be the last public meeting of the panel before it sunsets at the end of the month.
The referrals will come in the form of a letter from the committee to the Justice Department making its case for prosecution. Referrals do not carry any legal weight or compel the Justice Department to act.
The referrals are part of a larger list of recommendations from the committee's subpanel of lawyers, led by Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md. Other members include Democratic Reps. Zoe Lofgren and Adam Schiff of California and Republican Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming. The subpanel was created in October to address criminal referrals and other recommendations.
Monday's meeting punctuates a nearly two-year investigation into what led to the violent attack at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 as a mob of pro-Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying the results of the 2020 presidential election, which Joe Biden won.
The committee's final report, which Chairman Bennie Thompson previously told NPR could be roughly 1,000 pages long, could be released as soon as Monday. It's expected the report's appendices and transcripts of over 1,000 witness interviews will be released on Wednesday.
In addition to criminal referrals, the panel may issue other categories of referrals — to the Federal Election Commission, the House Ethics Committee, and bar associations to discipline attorneys.
The Justice Department is separately conducting its own extensive probe into the events of Jan. 6 with a special counsel.
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Who is Bennie Thompson? And where was Adam Schiff, the King of Parody?
It's interesting that the committee was so reliant upon a Republican to seek relevance. Apparently Republicans know how to run a House investigation. Maybe this is a preview for the next big show. Stay tuned!
The evidence against Donald Trump is overwhelming. Those who deny that are kidding themselves.
Still waiting. Tick, tock.
Refute anything the Jan 6th committee alleges.
Lets hear your defense of the pos.
I'm more interested in someone trying to defend the Jan. 6th committee.
Trump can only be found guilty of a crime by a jury in a court of law. So, what was the Jan. 6th committee trying to accomplish?
Still waiting. Tick, tock.
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It is very easy to find the committee's main allegations against Trump. Pick a few of them out and refute them or be quiet.
Well, of course, it's easy to make allegations. The committee won't be involved in the hard part of proving allegations. The committee has done the easy part and will criticize others if they don't do the hard part.
In other words you cant refute the allegations the Jan 6th committee has made against Trump.
Am I under the assumption that you believe all of the testimony under oath given thus far in the committee's hearings were false, deliberate lies? If that be the case then why doesn't Trump himself testify under oath to clear these matters up? It is not that complicated.
Still waiting. Tick, tock. Why isn't Trump in prison? I'm not responsible for defending or refuting the allegations made by the Jan. 6th committee. Attempting to do so would only give the committee more relevance than it has earned.
It was obvious from the beginning that the Jan. 6th committee wasn't going to do anything other than make allegations and issue reports. The odd thing is that the work of the committee fits definitions of 'conspiracy' that is being alleging. The committee, itself, lends support for the notion that there is a very fine line between political activity and conspiracy.
Fine. Then explain the dude with the bullhorn leading the chants, "Fight For Trump" and "Hang Mike Pence." What is that? Is that purposeless or what? What is that?
C'mon dude. Put on the moxie. I want to see it.
complete nonsense
How so?
take a hike
Or at the very least show a bit of patriotism for The Constitution and those who sacrificed for the document.
To quote Winston Churchill. "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all others." (paraphrase)
Sure..... carry on JR
Can't find anywhere where the Constitution has authorized/allowed this complete asinine postering as a "lawful body".
Constitution gives them the authority to conduct IMPEACHMENT hearings - which they already futched up twice - but it doesn't give them Kangaroo Court authority.
Um, no. Totally true. Only a liar or the most zealous fanatic would argue otherwise. Practically anyone could have published the findings of the committee before they had their first meeting. There was not the least bit of judicial proceedings in this "committee." It was nothing but political theater for the purpose of keeping their base motivated and to use as a club against their political enemies.
If Trump has to testify under oath about anything he and all he allegedly stands for (which is nothing) will implode.
The committee was a political show. It has zero legal significance.
How so? Do you refute the evidence presented? Do you reject the witness testimony? It would only be a "show" if it wasn't presenting actual facts. And the evidence is pretty damning.
I know it will be difficult, but try to be honest after asking yourself whether there should have been a congressional investigation if, as they say, the shoe were on the other foot. If Biden had lost in November 2020 but refused to concede, proclaimed the election was stolen and claimed voter fraud without proof, had nearly 70 attempts to prove voter fraud in court thrown out for lack of evidence, then Biden organized a "Stop The Steal" rally within walking distance of the Capital where the certification of Trump was about to happen and then after a speech telling his liberal supporters to "fight like hell" and to march to the capital to "stop the steal" and then Biden's supporters marched to the capital, attacked capital police, beat them with flag poles and sprayed them with pepper spray, broke doors and windows to gain access inside and were chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" who was the one intending to certify the election, and ending up delaying the certification process as elected officials ran for their lives, would you really just claim any post-Republican investigation of the incident was "a political show"? Really?
. And the evidence is pretty damning.
Lol. The witnesses weren't cross examined. The committee was completely one sided with no one to represent any opposing view points. The partisan committee picked and chose what evidence it released, and what it concealed from view. Almost all the witnesses were interviewed behind closed doors and the transcripts withheld from the public.
It's just public relations.
est after asking yourself whether there should have been a congressional investigation if, as they say,
Of course there should have been.
would you really just claim any post-Republican investigation of the incident was "a political show"? Really?
What else do you think this was? The criminal referrals are meaningless. Do you actually think this was an honest attempt to gather information and present it in a fair way?
If the Republicans did this to Joe biden, do you want to claim with a straight face you wouldn't be calling it a "political show?"
Having watched it, yes, I do and yes it was. And just because some sorry Trump boot-licking shit-for-brains claim Cheney and Kinzinger are RINO's doesn't make it so, they just happened to be the only Republicans who were willing to put country before party.
If Biden had done what Trump had done and it was all exposed by the actual participants and witnesses who were in the room you're damn right I wouldn't be calling it a political show, I'd be calling for Biden's prosecution. Anyone who is just poo pooing the facts that have been presented and are dismissing it as too partisan and not "fair" to Trump and remain loyal to him but aren't able to refute any of the facts presented clearly have their heads shoved so far up Trumps ass their noses hurt when he tightens his belt.
Well, that's great news! Hopefully the House, once the Republicans take control, can investigate why Biden is apparently allowing an invasion of the US across our southern border. Glad to have you onboard.
Thanks to the committee we know, among other things, that the plan to say the election was rigged against Trump predated the actual election. We know that he was told by the Attorney General of the United States that there was no voter fraud. Thanks to the committee we know that Trump wanted to appoint a new Attorney General that would play ball with his conspiracy plans. We know that Trump approved of an illegal plan to have Pence essentially declare Trump president after throwing out the electoral votes of 7 swing states. We know that Trump had whack job conspiracy nut Sidney Powell into the oval office where she pitched idea that the Chinese changed American votes. Thanks to the committee we know that Trump was ok with his followers being armed at his Jan 6 rally. We know that he watched the riot on television from his dining room in the White House and instead of trying to squelch the riot he was on the phone trying to get congresspeople to stick with the plan.
There is a lot more.
The thing is, Trump hasnt specifically denied any of this, nor given a plausible explanation for any of his actions. He is dripping consciousness of guilt. Innocent people say they are innocent, and explain why.
Precisely why Trump can never lay his hand on the bible and testify under oath.
No. The political show was Benghazi, the email thing, and Starr and Kavanaugh's demand to have President Clinton's penis photographed for evidence. Now that is a political show.