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America's Growing Debt Mountain in 5 Charts

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  last year  •  28 comments

By:   Jennifer Sor (Markets Insider)

America's Growing Debt Mountain in 5 Charts
Hedge fund legend Ray Dalio and economist Nouriel Roubini are among commentators who have warned of a full-blown debt crisis headed for the US.

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Looks like Biden won't be bragging about Bidenomics much longer.  Of course the problem with these analyses is that near term behavior is not a trend.  The indicators look mighty troublesome but it's too early to tell if the train is only going to stall or fly off the tracks.

And there's not much Biden can do to prop up Bidenomics.  The cost of deficits has risen through the roof.

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  • There's a storm of private and public debt troubles that's headed for the market.
  • Warning signs have sprung up in rising credit card balances, delinquencies, and other indicators.
  • Here are the signs that the US is dealing with troubles stemming from its mountain of debt.

A storm of public and private debt is brewing in the US - and the troubles are already beginning to show on the surface as loans pile up and borrower confidence falters.

At a broad level, Fitch Ratings' downgrade of the US credit rating and Moody's downgrade of 10 US banks this summer points to issues for both US sovereign credit (political polarization hampering the US's ability to meet debt obligations) and debt originated out of the banking sector (structural pressures stemming from tighter credit conditions and Fed policy).

But there are more granular problems mounting across debt markets as well, as both private and public sectors face a drastically different environment than they did in the previous decade when interest rates were at historic lows coming out of the 2008 crisis. If low rates spurred the sugar rush of heavy borrowing, rising interest rates may be setting the stage for the sugar crash.

This was on full display earlier this year as Silicon Valley Bank imploded, driven by mismanagement of its balance sheet which was weighed down by a bond portfolio that was rapidly depreciating as interest rates climbed. SVB, Signature Bank, and First Republic all fell in quick succession.

The fallout from that event was relatively contained, but that hasn't stopped market pundits and investing icons from sounding the alarm on high debt levels in the era of rising rates. Hedge fund legend Ray Dalio and top economist Nouriel Roubini are among those who have warned a full-blown debt crisis could be on the way.

Here are five charts that point to the warning signs flashing in US debt markets.

1. Private debt levels are rising at a staggering pace


Private debt levels are building fast, and hit new records this year. Credit card debt just passed $1 trillion for the first time ever, according to Federal Reserve data.

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Credit card debt hit $1 trillion for the first time ever. DataTrek Research

Personal unsecured loans also hit a new record, notching an unprecedented $225 billion in 2023, according to TransUnion. Ditto for corporate debt, which saw volumes grow 6.2% over the last year to hit $7.8 trillion, per Janus Henderson.

The public debt picture looks even worse. The national debt balance blew past $32 trillion for first time this year, with the potential for $5 billion to be added each day for the next 10 years, according to Bank of America.

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Federal Reserve

2. Corporate defaults are surging


Companies have begun to buckle under their debt burdens as rates rise, with the volume of defaults among US companies in 2023 already surpassing last year's total. 55 US firms defaulted on their debt in the first six months of the year - a 53% increase from the 36 companies that defaulted in 2022, Moody's Investors Service data shows.

Up to $1 trillion of corporate debt could default if the US faces a full-blown recession, Bank of America strategists warned, though the bank no longer sees a recession as likely in 2023.

3. Late payments are piling up


People and companies are increasingly falling behind on their loan payments.

In the commercial real estate sector, the percentage of commercial property owners that were late on payment for 30 days or more-or have already defaulted on their mortgages-rose to 3% in the first quarter this year, according to data from the Mortgage Bankers Association, reversing a preexisting downward trend. This is reflected in the rising rate of delinquencies on loans securing commercial mortgage bonds, which have been on the rise this year.

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The delinquency rate for commercial property owners rose to 3% in the first quarter of 2023. Mortgage Bankers Association

Meanwhile, the delinquency rate for all personal loans rose to 2.23% in the first quarter this year, up from just 1.7% in the first quarter of 2021, Fed data shows.

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The delinquency for all personal loans rose to 2.23% this year. Federal Reserve

4. Banks want to dump risky debt


Banks are already trying to dump loans that have a greater risk of default, even if it means selling those assets at a discount. JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, and Capital One are among those on Wall Street who are trying to get rid of large commercial real estate assets, Bloomberg reported this week.

Banks are also pulling back on debt-dealing altogether as financial conditions tighten. That spells trouble for the commercial real estate industry, as there's around $1.5 trillion of CRE debt that's set to reach maturity in the coming years, and will need to be refinanced.

Property owners could run into trouble when they go to refinance their mortgages as rates are higher and property valuations have been falling. A wave of commercial mortgage defaults could be on the horizon, according to some veteran investors, and banks have already started to rein in lending activity after the spasm of bank failures earlier this year sparked a brief banking crisis.

Earlier this year, Morgan Stanley noted that the credit crunch had arrived as banks recorded the sharpest decline in lending on record.

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Banks pulled back on lending the most they have on record. Federal Reserve


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Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1  seeder  Nerm_L    last year

The national debt in 2008 was $10 trillion.  Today the national debt stands at over $32 trillion.  Only three Presidents (Obama, Trump, and Biden) are responsible for two thirds of the national debt.  And Biden certainly isn't doing anything to slow growth of the national debt.

Expect a lot of noise about the need to cut Social Security.  But SoSec isn't what is driving the increases in national debt.  The debt has gotten so large that taxing the rich and cutting SoSec won't solve the problem any longer.  That's thanks to Bidenomics.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @1    last year

Back here in reality, Bill Clinton passed off a big budget surplus to Bush Jr which he and the gop blew up with all of their irresponsible tax cuts, unfunded foreign wars, military and stimulus spending which resulted in The Great Recession!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.1    last year

Back here in reality, Bill Clinton passed off a big budget surplus to Bush Jr

Yes between a tax increase and a spending decrease, deficits were controlled.  He also re-appointed Greenspan.  He also benefited from the luck of timing.  The internet invented by Al Gore was exploited by business for a decade of productivity growth.  Also OPEC had problems and oil prices fell.

In March 21, weeks after Bush entered office, the economy went into recession.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.1    last year
In March 21, weeks after Bush entered office, the economy went into recession.

Because it was all creative accounting............short memories abound with some but they know what they are fed.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1.1.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @1.1    last year
Back here in reality, Bill Clinton passed off a big budget surplus to Bush Jr which he and the gop blew up with all of their irresponsible tax cuts, unfunded foreign wars, military and stimulus spending which resulted in The Great Recession!

The reality is that the Federal debt increased from $10 trillion to $32 trillion under three Presidents; Obama, Trump, and Biden. 

The first 43 Presidents are responsible for $10 trillion of the national debt.  The last three Presidents are responsible for an additional $22 trillion in national debt.  Obama's and Biden's contributions to the national debt weren't caused by tax cuts.  

Trump has been blamed for adding $7 trillion to the national debt.  But that means Obama and Biden are responsible for adding $15 trillion to the national debt.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1    last year

Say don't let facts and timelines change your mind!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.5  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.2    last year

No, because of voodoo economics and the misguided tax policies passed by the gop which resulted in huge deficits...

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @1.1    last year

Clinton was forced to the middle by Congress and benefited greatly in that regard on this topic.    Left to his own devices it likely wouldn’t have happened.    Certainly not like it did when he was for forced to the middle.

How fast my friends on the left forget.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @1.1.5    last year

You’re too young to understand the stagflation and the economic hole Reaganomics brought us out of.    I on the other hands remember 18% mortgage rates, high unemployment rate and record low disposable income.

Younger generations have experienced nothing like it.    Even under Biden.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.7    last year
ou’re too young to understand the stagflation and the economic hole Reaganomics brought us out of.

It's just asinine people now pretend the 70s was some sort of economic  golden era because of some sort of compulsion to  attack Reagan. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.9  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @1.1.5    last year

Obama and Brandon are now GOP? jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.6    last year
 Left to his own devices it likely wouldn’t have happened.

Hillarycare alone would have killed it. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.10    last year

Yep, I remember but let’s see.    
That was probably Bush 1’s fault jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.8    last year

I know.    

Obtuse as hell.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2  Bob Nelson    last year

The article is actually about private debt. That is indeed a looming problem.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
2.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Bob Nelson @2    last year
The article is actually about private debt. That is indeed a looming problem.

Recent Presidents (notably Democrats) have solved private debt problems by nationalizing that private debt.  Government bailouts and debt relief means private debt becomes a national debt problem.  

My take is that the article is trying to prime the pump for another government bailout.  But government debt ain't cheap any longer so a bailout would be much more costly.  

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
2.1.1  mocowgirl  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1    last year
My take is that the article is trying to prime the pump for another government bailout.  But government debt ain't cheap any longer so a bailout would be much more costly.  

Definitely a possibility.

Received this link in an email from Forbes this morning.

Dow Drops More Than 300 Points As Fitch Warns Big Banks Could Be Downgraded (forbes.com)

Earlier Tuesday, Fitch’s top bank analyst Christopher Wolfe told CNBC the ratings agency could lower its grade for the U.S. financial sector as a whole and subsequently bump down its ratings for banks thus far immune to this year’s rattling of confidence in many financial institutions; giants like JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America each fell roughly 3%.

Yields for 10-year U.S.-issued bonds surged as much as nine basis points to its highest level of 2023 by 10 a.m. ET.

The banking angst comes just a few months after First Republic, Signature and Silicon Valley Banks became three of the four largest American banks to ever fail. Much of the sector’s troubles stem from some institutions’ inability to safeguard against the Federal Reserve’s rapid hiking of interest rates from near zero to over 5% since early 2022, causing insurmountable losses on some debt held by banks.

and this information in another email from Forbes.....

Student loans are the second largest source of household debt after mortgages—with about $1.6 trillion owed by 44 million Americans. And the pause on repayments and interest is coming to an end. While you may have heard that payments won’t restart until October (which is true), interest will start accruing again September 1 for the first time since the pause was put in place in March 2020.
If you have student loan debt, it’s important to log on to StudentAid.gov to review your status now . Since the start of the moratorium, up to 30 million borrowers have gotten a new loan servicer, and many borrowers have moved, meaning it’s entirely possible your servicer doesn’t even have your current address. Plus—and perhaps most importantly—reviewing your repayment plans could save you money.
Remember that it might not be necessary to rush paying off your student loans. Every situation is different, but some reasons to take your time include:
Your loans are fixed at a low interest rate
 

You may be eligible for loan forgiveness plans

You are eligible to deduct student loan interest from your taxes

 

Whether you are planning on making large payments in the coming months or just enough to avoid rising interest, don’t wait to check your accounts . The time is now to refresh your memory, update your contact information and commit to the right repayment path.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @2    last year
The article is actually about private debt.

Should we simply ignore these parts then?

A storm of public and private debt is brewing in the US - and the troubles are already beginning to show on the surface as loans pile up and borrower confidence falters.

At a broad level, Fitch Ratings' downgrade of the US credit rating and Moody's downgrade of 10 US banks this summer points to issues for both US sovereign credit (political polarization hampering the US's ability to meet debt obligations) and debt originated out of the banking sector (structural pressures stemming from tighter credit conditions and Fed policy).

The public debt picture looks even worse. The national debt balance blew past $32 trillion for first time this year, with the potential for $5 billion to be added each day for the next 10 years, according to Bank of America.
 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2    last year

The younger generations have never experienced the effect of higher inflation.

They are now …

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    last year

Skyrocketing debt costs and trillions in unfunded liabilities for entitlement programs that will start coming due in the next decade.  Rough seas ahead. 

But better not talk about doing something..

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4  Sparty On    last year

Problem is, no politician will grow a pair and push not kicking the can even further down the road.    Meanwhile the younger generations complain about the mess but keep electing people who will make it worse and ask for more.    Free college, etc.

It’s a death spiral …..

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @4    last year

Yeah, I was talking with someone here the other day and they see nothing at all wrong with our high debt and were unable to recognize the dangers of more and more of the federal budget going to service the debt.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1    last year

Had a conversation the other day with a gen-zer.    He was going on and on about how previous generations have screwed them.    I agreed but when I asked about his student loan being forgiven he was all for it.

All I could do was shake my head.  

He failed to make the connection

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5  Bob Nelson    last year

This is the NewsTalkers!

  • We have an article about private debt, which as usual no one has read, because all the Comments are about public debt.
  • We have twenty-three Comments, terrified of the consequences of... something... with no explanation of why.

It's very exciting!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    last year

Maybe you didn’t read it.  The seed is about both private and public debt.

  • There's a storm of private and public debt troubles that's headed for the market.

  • At a broad level, Fitch Ratings' downgrade of the US credit rating and Moody's downgrade of 10 US banks this summer points to issues for both US sovereign credit (political polarization hampering the US's ability to meet debt obligations) and debt originated out of the banking sector (structural pressures stemming from tighter credit conditions and Fed policy).

  • But there are more granular problems mounting across debt markets as well, as both private and public sectors face a drastically different environment than they did in the previous decade when interest rates were at historic lows coming out of the 2008 crisis.
 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1    last year
Maybe you didn’t read it. The seed is about both private and public debt.

There's a storm of private and public debt troubles that's headed for the market.

    • At a broad level, Fitch Ratings' downgrade of the US credit rating and Moody's downgrade of 10 US banks this summer points to issues for both US sovereign credit (political polarization hampering the US's ability to meet debt obligations) and debt originated out of the banking sector (structural pressures stemming from tighter credit conditions and Fed policy).
    • But there are more granular problems mounting across debt markets as well, as both private and public sectors face a drastically different environment than they did in the previous decade when interest rates were at historic lows coming out of the 2008 crisis.

Now... re-read your article. Observe the text concerned with public debt. Observe the text concerned with private debt.

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Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.1    last year

Yes, both are included in the seed.  Not sure how you missed it the first time.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
5.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    last year
This is the NewsTalkers!
  • We have an article about private debt, which as usual no one has read, because all the Comments are about public debt.
  • We have twenty-three Comments, terrified of the consequences of... something... with no explanation of why.
It's very exciting!

The article lays out information and facts that indicate growing problems concerning debt in the private sector.  But the article does not propose any remedies to address those growing problems.  The author of the article is relying on the reader's understanding of economics to understand the significance of the problems and risks.  What is the private sector going to do to address those growing problems?  

The private sector will address the problems of too much debt, late payments, and defaults by simply shutting down access to credit.  Interest rates on available credit will increase to mitigate the risks of default.  The economy will contract because our modern economy has been erected on a foundation of credit.

Is the Federal Reserve in the private sector or the public sector?  Who regulates bank lending and bank exposure to risk?  Who sets interest rates and how do they do that?  Who manages access to credit and the cost of credit in our economy?  Who is responsible for managing a recession and recovery from recession?

The article may be highlighting problems associated with private debt but in our modern (neoliberal) economy only the government can remedy those private sector problems.  Is the government still capable of remedying credit problems in the private sector?  In the recent past, the government nationalized private debt because the cost of government debt was very low.  Can the government afford to do that now?  Or will the tax burden to service the national debt become a drag on the economy?

 
 

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