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Trump opens up lead over Biden in rematch many Americans don't want

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  10 months ago  •  15 comments

By:   Jason Lange (Reuters)

Trump opens up lead over Biden in rematch many Americans don't want
I hate to think that we're constantly navigating the lesser of two evils

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Voters don't want a rematch between Trump and Biden.  So, doesn't that suggest voters might use the election to punish the political system? 

The two parties aren't listening to voters.  And the two parties certainly aren't working for the country.  Why wouldn't the voters want payback?


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WASHINGTON, Jan 25 (Reuters) - Donald Trump leads Democratic President Joe Biden by six percentage points in a Reuters/Ipsos poll that showed Americans are unhappy about an election rematch that came into sharper focus this week.

The nationwide poll of 1,250 U.S. adults showed Trump leading Biden 40% to 34% with the rest unsure or planning to vote for someone else or no one. The poll had a margin of error of three percentage points.

That represented a gain for Trump after a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted earlier this month showed him and Biden tied, though a nationwide survey does not capture the subtleties of the electoral college contest that will be decided this fall in just a handful of competitive states.

As Trump handily beat his sole remaining primary challenger, Nikki Haley in New Hampshire on Tuesday, some 67% of respondents polled Monday through Wednesday said they were "tired of seeing the same candidates in presidential elections and want someone new." Still, just 18% said they would not vote if Biden and Trump were their choice.

"I hate to think that we're constantly navigating the lesser of two evils," said Kimberly Sofge, a 56-year-old project manager in Washington, D.C., this week. "I honestly feel that we can do better."

The two candidates themselves seem ready for a rematch following Trump's back-to-back wins in Iowa and New Hampshire, with the White House regarding Trump as a beatable challenger, and Trump fuming because Haley did not immediately drop out of the Republican race.

Trump's six-point lead held even when respondents were given the option of voting for third-party candidates, including anti-vaccine activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr., with Trump drawing 36% support, Biden 30% and Kennedy 8%.

Slightly more than half of respondents said they were dissatisfied with the U.S. two-party system, with just one in four satisfied by it.

Whitney Tallarico, 33, a consultant interviewed in Washington, is among those considering an alternative.

"The independents don't really have a voice. Polarizing characters usually take the front seat, and it's a little sad for our country," Tallarico said this week. Asked whether she would vote for Biden or Trump, she said, "I'll probably go for a third party."

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Overall, the poll gave numerous signs that voters are not happy with their choices.

Seventy percent of respondents - including about half of Democrats - agreed with a statement that Biden should not seek re-election. Fifty-six percent of people responding to the poll said Trump should not run, including about a third of Republicans.

Biden has been weighed down by the widespread view that at 81, already the oldest person ever to be U.S. president, he is too old for the job.

Three-quarters of poll respondents agreed with a statement that Biden was too old to work in government, while half said the same about Trump, who at 77 would also be among the oldest U.S. leaders ever if returned to the White House. Just over half of Democrats saw Biden as too old while a third of Republicans viewed Trump that way.

Haley, 52, is trying to marshal dissatisfaction to turn around her well-financed but flagging campaign.

"Most Americans do not want a rematch between Biden and Trump," she said on Tuesday after her loss to Trump in New Hampshire. "The first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the party that wins this election."

The new poll showed Trump with a towering nationwide lead over Haley - 64% to 19% - as they prepare for the Feb. 24 Republican nomination contest in South Carolina, which Haley led as governor 2011-2017.

Turnout could still be high in the November general election in part because voters from both parties are highly motivated to beat the other side.

Fifty-nine percent of respondents who said they planned to vote for Biden said they were motivated primarily by opposition to Trump, while Trump voters were more positive about their candidate and his policies, with just 39% describing their vote as one against Biden.

Anti-Trump sentiment helped Biden defeat Trump in the 2020 election, when a record-high share of eligible voters cast ballots.

Another factor that could weigh on Trump: 55% of Republicans in the poll said he should be convicted and sentenced to prison if he broke the law. Trump, who is currently facing four criminal prosecutions, has argued in court that he should be immune to prosecution for actions taken while he was president.

To be sure, most Republicans do not think he is guilty - only one in five Republican respondents said it was believable that Trump solicited election fraud, one of the key charges against him, and four out of five said his political opponents were abusing the legal system to derail his presidential bid.

Reporting by Jason Lange, additional reporting by Alexandra Sarabia Editing by Scott Malone, Heather Timmons, Daniel Wallis, Peter Graff


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    10 months ago

No one wants to ask if voters are just pissed off with Democrats and Republicans.  The entire political infrastructure couldn't handle that bit of truth.  The only reason Trump was elected the first time was to kick asses in Washington D.C.  Hasn't electing Trump always been about payback?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2  TᵢG    10 months ago
So, doesn't that suggest voters might use the election to punish the political system? 

Unfortunately there is no actual punishment.   If only 1% of the electorate shows up to vote, there will still be a winner.   The political parties do not care if people in general do not vote, they only care about winning.

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    10 months ago

All the good economic news surely is triggering the MAGAs today what with the US leading the world by all metrics. What are MAGA propagandists to do but start throwing shit into the bleachers...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @3    10 months ago

All that "good" economic news is not filtering down to the masses, and the border situation is becoming a growing concerning to them.

Chatter on the street says that Michelle Obama is being groomed to replace Biden who will step down because of "health issues" sometime soon.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
3.1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    10 months ago

“…Michelle Obama…”

If only, Madam President. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.1.2  George  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    10 months ago

Hopefully she has the good sense to pick a decent VP. But there is less worry of Kamala taking the top spot if Joe is out. and talk about a no confidence vote in your current VP, they would almost have to replace her.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.1.3  George  replied to  afrayedknot @3.1.1    10 months ago

Exactly what are her qualifications to be president? Has she ever run anything in her life? held any elected office? anything note worthy that would qualify her to hold office?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    10 months ago
Chatter on the street says that Michelle Obama is being groomed to replace Biden who will step down because of "health issues" sometime soon.

The primaries have started.   Every state primary makes a shift that much more difficult.   

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.1.3    10 months ago
anything note worthy that would qualify her to hold office?

Just like Hillary Clinton, she sleeps with a former president. That is all.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.6  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.5    10 months ago

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George
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3.1.7  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.5    10 months ago

Unlike Hillary she has never held an elected office or have any foreign policy experience, Hillary was far more qualified to be President, She was such a miserable shrew that nobody could stand her, not even Bill.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @3    10 months ago

Having a roof over your head is so over rated. 

Rent has never been less affordable, especially for the middle class
The number of ‘cost-burdened’ renters hit a record 22.4 million in 2022 — up 2 million households from just three years before, according to a new study

Dragging Bay Area home sales sink to 15-year low in 2023
Not since the housing bubble burst and ignited the Great Recession have home sales slowed so much

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
3.3  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @3    10 months ago

All the good economic news surely is triggering the MAGAs today what with the US leading the world by all metrics.”

I’ll try to remember that next time i spend 50-60 bucks for a few bags of groceries.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @3    10 months ago

Do you think anyone is surprised that borrowing and spending 2 trillion dollars without a national emergency to justify it  results in some macroeconomic growth? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    10 months ago

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