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DNC sticks with Biden virtual roll call, despite doubts that it’s necessary

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  4 months ago  •  9 comments

By:   Colby Itkowitz, Patrick Svitek and Leigh Ann Caldwell (The Washington Post)

DNC sticks with Biden virtual roll call, despite doubts that it’s necessary
The plan to renominate the president before the convention is getting fresh scrutiny as pressure builds for him to step aside.

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Quite the contrast between the RNC and DNC.  While Republicans wrap up an exciting and successful convention, Democrats are being forced to make their convention a pointless affair.  The legal mumbo jumbo is telling Democrats that the convention work must be done by mail-in voting to meet certification deadlines for ballot access.  Why are Democrats even bothering with a convention this election?  There won't be any anticipation or excitement because everything is already in the bag.  So, what's the point?

Joe Biden created the crisis of a late convention that flirts with missed deadlines to appear on ballots.  Biden deliberately squirreled the primary calendar, created a crisis within the party because he wanted a debate before the RNC convention, and now is dragging his feet to run out the clock before Democrats can replace him.  

The RNC seems competent and ready for the election.  The DNC seems incompetent and forced to react to crisis after crisis.  What's that tell us about the leadership of the two parties?  Where does the buck stop?


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The Democratic National Committee pressed forward Wednesday with a plan to hold a virtual roll call to nominate President Biden for reelection during the first week of August, a process that could short-circuit a burgeoning effort from within the party to replace him amid questions about his acuity.

Party leadership cited the risk of a legal quagmire if Biden is not formally nominated before the party’s convention in Chicago, which begins Aug. 19. DNC officials said looming ballot deadlines in a handful of states could give GOP-aligned groups the opportunity to challenge in the courts any nominee whose status is not formalized by those dates.

But officials in several of those states said in emailed statements that there are processes in place to ensure that Biden — or another Democrat — would appear on the ballot even if the deadline passed before the nomination was official. And some experts say the notion that a Democratic nominee would be kept off the ballot is far-fetched.

“If there were a challenge, courts side with giving ballot access for major candidates.,” said Rick Hasen, an election law professor at UCLA. “It’s not realistic that this would happen.”

The DNC’s decision to publicly raise legal doubts comes as Democratic lawmakers who want Biden to step aside have raised alarm that the party leadership could try to accelerate Biden’s nomination even further. Rep. Jared Huffman (Calif.) had been circulating a draft letter among fellow Democrats arguing against a rushed vote. On Wednesday, he dropped the effort after the DNC confirmed that voting wouldn’t begin until at least Aug. 1.

A virtual roll call before the convention would be unprecedented for a major party, with both Democrats and Republicans traditionally formalizing their nominee at their convention — even if the selection has already been made months earlier through the primary and caucus process.

Democrats in May moved their nomination plans forward to meet Ohio’s Aug. 7 ballot deadline. Ohio lawmakers subsequently passed a law temporarily changing the deadline to early September to ensure that Biden would be on the ballot. But the DNC decided to still hold a virtual roll call, arguing that it could not trust Ohio GOP leaders to adhere to the new timeline.

In a letter Wednesday, co-chairs of a DNC panel overseeing convention rules suggested that the Ohio situation opens them up to “litigation about the efficacy of our filings.”

“We believe a virtual element is the wisest approach because it ensures ballot access in the states that we need to win in November and avoids potential risks if there is delay in the process,” the letter states.

It goes on to list five states — Oklahoma, Washington, California, Virginia and Montana — with mid- to late August ballot deadlines that the letter contends would be hard to meet if the party waited until the Aug. 19 convention to nominate a candidate.

Mid-August is a typical time for a nominating convention, and there is no history of major-party nominees being kicked off a ballot because of problems meeting deadlines. States often provide contingencies for missed deadlines.

Oklahoma’s deadline is Aug. 21, falling in the middle of the convention, while Virginia’s is on Aug. 23, which is just after. Both states have laws that provide flexibility around those deadlines, however.

In other states, like Washington, it’s not law, but election officials have also allowed for provisional nominees to be submitted if parties couldn’t meet the state’s ballot deadline.

“The Office of the Secretary of State is committed to ensuring Washington voters have the opportunities to make their voices heard in the presidential election that voters in every other U.S. state will have,” said Derrick Nunnally, spokesman for the office.

Nunnally said the issue came up in 2020 and the office reached out to the Democratic and Republican parties and told them to submit provisional certifications.

“That opportunity can be available this year due to the Democratic Party’s schedule,” Nunnally said.

A spokesman with the California secretary of state’s office said the office wasn’t sure what would happen if a political party didn’t send its nomination by the ballot access deadline and said the office is looking into it.

Hasen said in a scenario in which Republicans sued in California to keep Biden off the ballot, the heavily Democratic state legislature would probably pass a law permitting access.

Derek Muller, an election law professor at the University of Notre Dame, said Democrats could face litigation in states like Washington where accepting provisional nominees is a decision made by the secretary of state and not codified in law.

“I think it’s been a matter of custom and habit in past years, but obviously you have an increasingly litigious election era where people just want to challenge these deadlines,” Muller said.

Fear over Republican lawsuits related to ballot access stems from a memo that the right-wing Heritage Foundation circulated in early April describing its plans to sue in certain battleground states if Democrats replaced Biden at the top of ticket.

Election experts have said Republicans wouldn’t have a case if Biden stepped aside before becoming the official nominee. But staffers for the DNC and the Biden campaign have been warning lawmakers that Republicans will launch legal challenges if Democrats name a new nominee, according to six House Democratic aides and lawmakers. They said that Biden’s circle has also argued that it would create chaos and uncertainty and potentially threaten electoral votes if Democrats don’t get their candidate on the ballot in certain states.

The Biden campaign denies it had conversations with lawmakers about ballot access. “This is completely false. The campaign is not promoting this argument,” a campaign spokesperson said. The DNC did not comment beyond the letter that party leaders issued Wednesday.

The issue has been discussed widely among Democrats on the Hill. Some of Biden’s allies, especially those within the Black Caucus and the Progressive Caucus, have been using the specter of possible legal challenges as an argument for sticking with Biden.

Some DNC members had suggested holding the virtual roll call at the end of July, but House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (N.Y.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.) urged the DNC to stick with its original plan to confirm its nominee in early August.

Huffman, who has argued against a rushed roll call vote, said in an interview that party leaders have assured him that by keeping the date in August, Democrats will have time to examine the nominating process and determine whether to keep Biden at the top of the ticket. The California congressman said he would prefer that the nomination happen at the convention and is skeptical that the earlier virtual roll call is necessary.

“We want to hear from lawyers on if this is what the DNC says this is or is this a fig leaf to squelch debate” about Biden, Huffman said.

Pressure on Biden continues to build after a faltering debate performance, with Rep. Adam Schiff — a Democrat running for Senate in California — becoming on Wednesday the latest lawmaker to call for him to step aside. Rep. Lloyd Doggett (Tex.), the first House Democrat to publicly ask Biden to leave the race, said Wednesday that the DNC should ditch the virtual roll call altogether and nominate the presidential ticket as usual at the in-person convention in Chicago.

“Fast-forwarding the nomination process is no way to convince the many unconvinced voters in the growing number of battleground states,” Doggett said in a statement.

Biden’s campaign expressed frustration with the focus on the virtual roll call during a news conference in Milwaukee.

“The Republicans are lying to the American people about virtually every single issue that impacts their lives,” said Quentin Fulks, Biden’s principal deputy campaign manager, “and we’re caught up in process stories.”

The overwhelming majority of delegates attending the Chicago convention are pledged to Biden after the president dominated the primaries, though they are not legally bound to him. Several delegates said in interviews that they were kept in the dark about the date of the virtual roll call and were getting their updates from the media.

A donor and delegate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so he could share candid thoughts, said he had received a call from a Biden campaign aide last week who mentioned a roll call at the end of July. The delegate, who would like to see the president step aside, was upset that the roll call might be expedited and believes the nomination should happen at the convention. The virtual roll call is a “bad idea and surefire way to lose an election,” he said.



Maeve Reston, Paul Kane and Marianna Sotomayor contributed to this report.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    4 months ago

The RNC has put on a pretty successful convention.  There has been some anticipation, excitement, and opportunity for celebration.  Republicans are united, fired up, and ready to vote.

Meanwhile, in the background, Democrats are planning what?  The party work has to be finished before the convention opens.  There can't be a brokered convention because a new nominee would miss certification deadlines for ballot access.  So what's the point of even holding a DNC convention?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    4 months ago

This is Biden doing his best to save his ass. There's zero need to do this other than to lock Biden as the official nominee ASAP. 

Now he just needs his covid to last long enough to give him an excuse not to talk to anyone in public until then. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    4 months ago

Good, Ohio is in play...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @3    4 months ago
in play...

Trump is up by 10 points...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @3    4 months ago
Good, Ohio is in play...

Trade Ohio for Pennsylvania, Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia, Michigan, and Wisconsin?  Okay, if that's what you want.  At least you'd get to bad mouth J.D. in a show of national unity.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @3    4 months ago

Ohio already changed its law to accommodate the democrats.   Ohio is a red herring  the dnc trots out to justify an early  nomination

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    4 months ago
Ohio already changed its law to accommodate the democrats.   Ohio is a red herring  the dnc trots out to justify an early  nomination

Shhhhhhhhhh ...  You'll wake the dead cat.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.3.2  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3.1    4 months ago

original

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @3.3.2    4 months ago

Is that a California chardonnay?  Or maybe Sauvignon Newsom?

 
 

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