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Gabby Giffords Rips Into J.D. Vance Over 'Childless' Comment: 'Disgraceful'

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  3 months ago  •  20 comments

By:   Philippe Naughton (The Daily Beast)

Gabby Giffords Rips Into J.D. Vance Over 'Childless' Comment: 'Disgraceful'
The ex-congresswoman, whose husband could become Kamala Harris' running mate, said her 2011 shooting left her unable to have children.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know Mark Kelly is on the VP A-list for a B-list Presidential candidate.  We all know that Gabby Giffords is the go-to tragic victim of political violence.  We understand that the unbiased liberal press wants to get back to a close horse race so they can skim off as many donor dimes as they can.  

But why are Democrats so very upset about being childless while they are fighting for abortion?  Isn't the whole point of abortion to remain childless?  Of course, anti-religious Democrat moralists will smugly lecture us that we don't understand.  So, explain it for once instead of just blowing more smoke.


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Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) has become the latest high-profile woman to spring to the defense of Kamala Harris over J.D. Vance's remarks about "childless cat ladies."

Giffords, 54, who is married to Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ), almost lost her life in an attempted assassination in January 2011 after being hit in the head by a bullet. Six other people were killed in the attack.

"Vice President @KamalaHarris is a proud mom of two remarkable stepchildren—and so am I," Giffords wrote on X. "@CaptMarkKelly and I were trying to have a baby through IVF before I was shot and that dream was stolen from us. To suggest we are somehow lesser is disgraceful."

Donald Trump's new vice presidential pick said in a Fox News interview in 2021 that the U.S. was being run by "a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too."

Among those firing back at the remarks, which went viral after being reposted this week, was Friends star Jennifer Anniston, who said on an Instagram Story that she hoped Vance's daughter would never need to undergo IVF.

Kelly, 60, who represents Arizona in the U.S. Senate, has two grown-up children from his first marriage and a baby granddaughter.

Giffords and Kelly have previously opened up about their heartbreak at not having children after the 2011 attack near Tucson, Arizona.

"Of everything that changed that day—both of us halting our careers, the beginning of a long, difficult road to recovery—we also lost something we wanted very much: the opportunity to have a child together," they wrote in a joint essay for People magazine earlier this year attacking moves to limit IVF access in Arizona.

They added: "We don't dwell on what could have been. Gabby's philosophy is 'Move ahead,' and that's what we did to rebuild our lives and find our purpose after what happened to our family. We have a vibrant family we love, including a granddaughter who brings us so much joy."

Kelly is among the frontrunners to be Harris' running mate—which would pit him against Vance in any televised VP debate. If Harris were to beat Trump, Giffords could end up as America's second lady.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    3 months ago

Fake outrage over a fake issue.  Mark Kelly needs the face time to get votes.  Democrats have already told us the greatest love for a child is to abort them before birth.  What's the point of unrestricted abortion if not to aspire to becoming childless cat ladies?

So, do Democrats want what they don't want - or - don't want what they do want?  Or is this just more worthless political doo doo.  We may not be impressed but at least we're dazzled. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @1    3 months ago
Fake outrage over a fake issue.

Fake issue?  Are you claiming that Vance did not make these statements?

"We are effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too"

or

“Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of those children,” Vance said. “When you go to the polls in this country, as a parent, you should have more power, you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who don’t have kids.”
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Nerm_L @1    3 months ago

Democrats have already told us the greatest love for a child is to abort them before birth.

I don’t remember seeing that anywhere.  Please provide a link.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2    3 months ago

Ridiculous, isn't it?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1.2.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2    3 months ago
I don’t remember seeing that anywhere.  Please provide a link.
"Love is not just a feeling, but a choice. And sometimes, the choice to love means making difficult decisions, including those related to abortion." - Dr. Laura S. Brown, psychologist (Source: "Your Turn for Care: Surviving the Aging and Death of the Adults Who Harranged You" by Laura S. Brown, 2019)


Abortion is a choice of love.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
1.2.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.2    3 months ago

You said “Democrats have already told us the greatest love for a child is to abort them before birth.”. Is psychologist Dr. Laura S. Brown the Democrats spokesperson that I’ve never hear of?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.2.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.3    3 months ago

Also, it seems that Nerm believes that words can mean whatever he wants them to mean.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Nerm_L @1    3 months ago
Democrats have already told us the greatest love for a child is to abort them before birth.

Quotes?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1.3.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.3    3 months ago
Quotes?
"Abortion is not the opposite of love; it's a manifestation of love - love for oneself, love for one's family, and love for the future." - Dr. Willie Parker, abortion provider and advocate (Source: "Life's Work: A Moral Argument for Choice" by Dr. Willie Parker, 2017)


So, yes, abortion is the greatest love of all.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1.3.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.3    3 months ago
Quotes?
"I'm not a parent, but I play one at home with my cat. And honestly, I think I'd be a better parent to a cat than a human child." - Jen Kirkman (Source: "I Know What I'm Doing -- and Other Lies I Tell Myself" by Jen Kirkman, 2016)
 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.3.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Nerm_L @1.3.1    3 months ago

He didn't say what you said he said, Nerm.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.3.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Nerm_L @1.3.2    3 months ago

And this relates to abortion, how?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.4  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @1    3 months ago

Proving the adage that when you cannot dazzle them with the brilliance of your argument the only way out is to confound them with bullshit!

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
2  Gsquared    3 months ago
Isn't the whole point of abortion to remain childless?

What an ignorant, stupid comment.  Unbelievable.  Ask the women who were anxious to have children, miscarried and needed abortions to prevent septic shock.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1  JBB  replied to  Gsquared @2    3 months ago

The vast majority of abortions worldwide are motivated by poor women already having more children than they can care and provide for...

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3  CB    3 months ago

And, so could some religious democracy moralists suggest the collective You don't understand: 

Financial reasons

Not the right time for a baby

Partner-related reasons

Need to focus on other children

A new baby would interfere with future opportunities

Not emotionally or mentally prepared

Health-related reasons

Want a better life for the baby than she could provide

Lack of maturity or independence

Influences from friends and/or family

Don’t want a baby or place baby for adoption

Other reasons

Eleven women (1%) gave other reasons for seeking abortion that didn’t easily fall into one of the major themes, including going through legal issues (n=3) and fear of giving birth (n=2).

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
4  sandy-2021492    3 months ago
Isn't the whole point of abortion to remain childless?

No.

Most women who have abortions already have children.

Nearly four-in-ten women who had abortions in 2021 (39%) had no previous live births at the time they had an abortion,  according to the CDC .

That leaves 61% who have had a previous live birth.

Sometimes, it's about preserving the life, health, or fertility of the woman.  Not that those things matter to some people.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5  charger 383    3 months ago

Abortion is nobody else's business.  Somebody who does not approve of abortions should not get one for themselves, that is the end of their decision making on abortions.  

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1  George  replied to  charger 383 @5    3 months ago

I feel the same way about marriage, if you don’t want a gay marriage don’t marry a gay person, problem solved. Who someone else marries has zero effect on anyone else.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.1  JBB  replied to  George @5.1    3 months ago

Then somebody should explain the electoral realities of yours, Charger's and most of America's popular viewpoints on reproductive rights and marriage equality to your high and mighty MAGA Overlords, because they are on the record as being vehemently opposed to both!

 
 

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