Hey, let's have a fun weekend and go see where the race riot happened.  Maybe there'll be a reenactment of a lynching.  

That's what conservatives did back in the day.

Had a picnic during a lynching.

That's what conservatives did back in the day. Had a picnic during a lynching.

And they get to do it again.  Thanks, Joe, you're a swell guy!

So, you agree.  Progress.

So, you agree.  Progress.

Yeah, we're gonna build a great future by reliving the past.  Just remember, Black kids can do anything except escape the legacy of a racist past.  

So, you agree conservatives had picnics while Black people were being murdered back in the day and will do so again and you're blaming President Biden.

That's Cocoa Puffs.

Black kids can do anything except

Get into college without a democrats help, or get a job without a democrats help or raise their own children without a social workers help according to the current Potus.

Black kids can do anything except escape the legacy of a racist past.  

That is the problem with a legacy, it's something that gets passed on from one generation to the next depending on how many years the legacy took to build. With several hundred years of slavery, discrimination, segregation, being prevented from buying homes, prevented from getting loans, prevented from accessing many schools and universities, being banned from many jobs and right-wing conservative bigots standing on their necks, black Americans have quite a legacy that the current generation has inherited.

But now the descendants of those right-wing conservative bigots are saying repulsive shit like "Well it's racist to give them a hand up or to help black Americans at all because if they need a helping hand that proves they're weak! The barriers that held them back for centuries have been lifted so now it's every man and every culture and color for themselves! Who cares if we white folk had a several century head start that we ALL fucking know was brutally racist, giving black Americans a helping hand is now racist against us because we're not getting that helping hand! Sure, we've had centuries of white affirmative action, but we don't talk about that anymore because it would expose us as being sniveling pieces of shit and hey, who would want to do that?...".

There are still laws on the books in certain states where black folks are still legally discriminated against.

'standing on their necks'

perfect description

That's what conservatives did back in the day. Had a picnic during a lynching.

Here is some actual terrible history on that subject .  It happened in many places after the Civil War in the late 1800's, early 1900's.  Not too many "conservatives" participating in those atrocities at the time though.  Even if you feel that all the racist Democrats switched over to the Republican party in the 1960's, not many "lynching picnics" were going on after that.

So if we are truly honest about it, it is what racists and white supremacists did "back in the day", not what conservatives, or liberals, or progressives did.  Today, those learning about racism during that period need to understand that it went WAY beyond modern political labels, Democrat or Republican, and that we all need to work together to make sure that terrible history and the hatred that was behind it is never repeated.

about it, it is what racists did "back in the day"

Except white people were lynched regularly too. 

Okey dokey

Except white people were lynched regularly too.

Sure, but it was predominantly used as a form of terrorism or unjust punishment against blacks in many southern States during the years after the Civil War and into the mid 1900's as you can see from the following stats:

statista

So, today's gop/republicans then

who were the 'conservatives' then

who were the 'conservatives' then

President Lincoln perhaps among the first with others to follow, like the moderate and radical Republicans in Congress who passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1871, and drove the passage of the 14th Amendment in 1868?  Those Republicans involved in the election of Ulysses S. Grant and his efforts to break up the KKK as well?

That is the problem with a legacy, it's something that gets passed on from one generation to the next depending on how many years the legacy took to build. With several hundred years of slavery, discrimination, segregation, being prevented from buying homes, prevented from getting loans, prevented from accessing many schools and universities, being banned from many jobs and right-wing conservative bigots standing on their necks, black Americans have quite a legacy that the current generation has inherited.

Here's the problem with that sort of argument.  I'm told my legacy is that of a white, privileged slave master that is superior to Black people.  I'm told that is the legacy I have inherited as a birthright.  So, how do I escape that legacy?

Examples?

I'm told my legacy is that of a white, privileged slave master that is superior to Black people.  I'm told that is the legacy I have inherited as a birthright.  So, how do I escape that legacy?

Inheriting a legacy does not make anyone superior, so the "legacy" of past generations who wrongly believed they were superior has nothing to do with you potentially believing you're superior today. The legacy that many descendants of "white privileged slave masters" and their descendants after them that often treated black Americans with disdain and maltreatment and discrimination is often generations of wealth and equity passed from one generation to the next often in the form of home ownership in areas black Americans were denied access to, educations, schools, colleges providing a head start, a "hand up" if you will, that most black Americans were denied. So how do you escape that legacy? You don't escape it, you recognize it, accept that you're benefiting from it and then support programs for black Americans that attempt to give them a "hand up" just like your ancestors received back when the only kind of affirmative action was white affirmative action.

Inheriting a legacy does not make anyone superior, so the "legacy" of past generations who wrongly believed they were superior has nothing to do with you potentially believing you're superior today. The legacy that many descendants of "white privileged slave masters" and their descendants after them that often treated black Americans with disdain and maltreatment and discrimination is often generations of wealth and equity passed from one generation to the next often in the form of home ownership in areas black Americans were denied access to, educations, schools, colleges providing a head start, a "hand up" if you will, that most black Americans were denied. So how do you escape that legacy? You don't escape it, you recognize it, accept that you're benefiting from it and then support programs for black Americans that attempt to give them a "hand up" just like your ancestors received back when the only kind of affirmative action was white affirmative action.

That response completely ignores my question.  I am not a descendent of white privileged slave masters but that is the legacy that has been imposed upon me.  I am a descendant of German abolitionists who fought to end slavery.  I am a descendent of immigrants who moved west from the Shenandoah Valley through the Ohio valley where slavery was made illegal before the founding of the United States.  Shenandoah Germans  So, how do I escape the legacy that has been imposed upon me?  Why should I recognize a legacy that does not apply to me or my family heritage?

You are claiming Black people are trapped by a legacy of slavery and racism.  But not all Black people in the United States are descendants of slaves; that legacy has been imposed upon all Black people in the US.  The population of Somali immigrants living in Minneapolis are not descendants of slaves; that legacy has been imposed upon them.  So, how do they escape that legacy?

 Democrats' celebration of these types of events is really, really weird.

Are you serious? No one is “celebrating” these things. It’s a memorial.

Are you suggesting we should never memorialize injustice to honor the victims and guard against future injustice? Is that for real? or are you just trolling for the lols?

We should just forget Manzanar? Wounded Knee? WT Actual F?

"I never thought I'd see people try to erase history … it's so important for our children and grandchildren to understand what happened."

How fucking hypocritical by the party leader of the "tear down all reference to the civil war" party. 

How fucking hypocritical by the party leader of the "tear down all reference to the civil war" party.

It's not "tear down all reference to the civil war". Not sure where you got that quote because that's just some hilarious bullshit. It is "tear down all celebrations and reverence for the confederacy" that thankfully got their bigoted racist asses kicked by real Americans.

Always the defense of the indefensible

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got their bigoted racist asses kicked by real Americans.

Democrats definitely got their asses kicked big time, of course there is always some moron who will try to claim they all became republicans now without any real proof.

Not sure where you got that quote because that's just some hilarious bullshit. It is "tear down all celebrations and reverence for the confederacy"

If those aren't there, where would questions come from? 

of course there is always some moron who will try to claim they all became republicans now without any real proof.

It would be funny if that claim wasn't so hilariously flawed and total garbage on the face of it. It really is sad how some refuse to acknowledge the large number of former Southern Democrats who felt their party was abandoning their racist ideals and thus switched parties over the last 40 years. The facts are glaringly apparent and no, the VAST majority of former white racist Christian conservative Democrats didn't all just up and move out of their family homes in their former confederate States and become northern Democrats who support affirmative action and the dismantling of the legacy of slavery and segregation. They stayed right where they are and switched parties which is why the former confederate State are ALL deep red Republican States.

"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are." - Republican political strategist Kevin Phillips in 1970 interview with The New York Times.

The proof is in the pudding as they say, and the Southern States filled with racist white confederate flag waving Republicans are more than enough evidence of the reality no matter what any sad fucking lying piece of shit defenders of those racists claim.

The proof is in the pudding

Exactly, where are the most racist cities. Still controlled by democrats.

Most Racist Cities in America 2024 (worldpopulationreview.com)

Southern Democrats who felt their party was abandoning their racist ideals and thus switched parties over the last 40 years.

You shouldn't have any trouble naming 5, Clintons are still democrats, So is Biden, Byrd died a democrat, you made the claim. any chance you can back it up?

s why the former confederate State are ALL deep red Republican State

Lol. 

Once they start labeling  people "White Conservative Christians" for no real reason other than their own hate, facts are going out the window.  . 

You shouldn't have any trouble naming 5

List of party switchers in the United States:

Democratic to Republican

• 1960 –   Arthur Ravenel Jr. , South Carolina State Representative, later U.S. Representative from   South Carolina   (1987–1995)
• 1960 –   Claude R. Kirk Jr. , later   Governor of Florida   (1967–1971) ^{[ 17 ]}
• 1960 –   Robert Daniel , later U.S. Representative from Virginia (1973–1983)
• 1960 –   Marion Hartzog Smoak , future South Carolina State Representative
• 1961 –   Jack Cox , former Texas State Representative (1947–1953)
• 1962 –   Dave Treen , later U.S. Representative from Louisiana (1973–1980) and   Governor of Louisiana   (1980–1984)
• 1962 –   James D. Martin , later U.S. Representative from   Alabama   (1965–1967)
• 1962 –   Jim Gardner , later U.S. Representative (1967–1969) and Lt. Governor (1989–1993) of   North Carolina
• 1962 –   Ronald Reagan , while an actor and former   Screen Actors Guild   president. ^{[ 18 ]}   Later 33rd   Governor of California   (1967–1975) and 40th   President of the United States   (1981–1989)
• 1962 –   Floyd Spence ,   South Carolina State Representative , later a U.S. Representative from   South Carolina   (1971–2001)
• 1962 -   W. Don MacGillivray , future California State Representative
• 1962 -   David L. McCain , Florida Supreme Court Judge and attempted Florida State rep
• 1963 –   Rubel Phillips , former   Mississippi Public Service Commissioner
• 1963 -   FitzGerald Bemiss , State Senator from Virginia
• 1963 –   Stanford Morse ,   Mississippi State Senator
• 1963 –   James H. Boyce
• 1963 –   Edward Lunn Young , U.S. Representative from South Carolina
• 1963 –   Burnet R. Maybank Jr. , Former Lt. Governor of South Carolina
• 1963 -   M. Patton Echols , Virginia State Senator
• 1964 -   John Paul Hammerschmidt , future US Representative from Arkansas and GOP chair
• 1964 –   William Dickinson , U.S. Representative from Alabama
• 1964 –   Arthur Glenn Andrews , U.S. Representative from Alabama
• 1964 –   Clarke Reed
• 1964 –   Faith Whittlesey , United States Ambassador to Switzerland
• 1964 –   Howard Callaway , later U.S. Representative from   Georgia   (1965–1967) and   United States Secretary of the Army   (1973–1975) ^{[ 19 ]}
• 1964 –   Iris Faircloth Blitch , former Georgia U.S. Representative (1955–1963)
• 1964 –   Charles W. Pickering , later Mississippi State senator and judge of the   United States District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi   (2004)
• 1964 –   Strom Thurmond , while U.S. senator from   South Carolina   (1954–2003). ^{[ 20 ]}
• 1965 -   George Yarbrough , Mississippi State Senator
• 1965 –   Arthur R. Outlaw   Mayor of Mobile Alabama
• 1966 -   Jerry Hughes , South Carolina State Representative
• 1966 -   Fred Connors , South Carolina State Representative
• 1966 -   Leon Bramlett , Mississippi Attempted Gov and chair of the Mississippi Democratic Party
• 1966 -   Reid Moore Jr. , attempted State Senator from Florida
• 1966 -   Henry Grover , Texas State Representative
• 1967 -   David L. Brower , Florida State Representative
• 1967 -   Jerry H. Geisler , Virginia State Representative
• 1967 -   Jack B. Ray , Georgia State Treasurer
• 1967 –   Thad Cochran , future US Representative and Senator from Mississippi
• 1967 -   Bill Archer , Texas Health Commissioner, later Congressman (1971–2001)
• 1967 -   Ronnie Thompson , Mayor of Macon, Georgia
• 1968 -   Gordon McLendon , candidate for Texas State Senate
• 1968 –   Jim Caldwell , Arkansas State Representative
• 1968 -   Sanford Charron , Former Rep. from Michigan
• 1968 -   Phil Campbell , Georgia Commissioner of Agriculture
• 1968 -   R. Earl Dixon , Florida State Representative
• 1968 -   Curtis S. Person Jr. , Tennessee State Representative
• 1968 -   William E. Dannemeyer , Former California State Representative and Future Congressmen from California
• 1968 -   Grailey Berryhill , Tennessee State Representatives
• 1969 -   Guy O. Farley Jr. , Virginia State Representative ^{[ 21 ]}
• 1969 -   Raymond R. Guest Jr. , Virginia State Representative
• 1969 -   Donald Hazelton , future Florida State Representative

• 1970 –   Jesse Helms , later U.S. Senator from   North Carolina   (1973–2003)
• 1970 –   A. C. Clemons , Louisiana State Senator (1960-1972)
• 1970 -   Sterling Cockrill , Arkansas State Rep.
• 1970 -   J. Robert Cooper , Georgia State Rep.
• 1970 –   William Oswald Mills , later U.S. Representative from   Maryland   (1971–1973)
• 1970 –   Bob Barr , later U.S. Representative from   Georgia   (1995–2003)
• 1970 –   John Chichester , Virginia State Senator
• 1971 –   Tillie K. Fowler , later U.S. Representative from   Florida   (1993–2001)
• 1971 –   James Nowlin , Texas State Representative
• 1972 –   Graham Purcell Jr. , former U.S. Representative from Texas (1962–1973)
• 1972 –   Robert R. Neall , later Secretary of the   Maryland Department of Health   (2018–present)
• 1972 –   Thomas F. Hartnett , former U.S. Representative from   South Carolina   (1981–1987)
• 1972 –   Trent Lott , later U.S. Representative from   Mississippi   (1973–1989) and U.S. Senator from Mississippi (1989–2007) ^{[ 22 ]}
• 1973 –   Mills E. Godwin Jr. , former   governor of Virginia   (1966–1970) and   lieutenant Governor of Virginia   (1962–1966). Later   Governor of Virginia   (1974–1978)
• 1973 –   Asa Hutchinson , future governor of Arkansas
• 1973 –   Samuel I. Hayakawa , later   U.S. Senator   from   California   (1977–1983) ^{[ 23 ]}
• 1973 –   John Connally , former   United States Secretary of the Treasury   (1971–1972) and former   governor of Texas   (1963–1969)
• 1975 –   Elizabeth Dole , later   United States Secretary of Transportation   (1983–1987),   United States Secretary of Labor   (1989–1990) and U.S. Senator from   North Carolina   (2003–2009)
• 1975 –   John Jarman , while U.S. Representative from   Oklahoma   (1951–1977) ^{[ 24 ]}
• 1976 –   Shirley Winsley , Washington State Representative
• 1977 –   A. J. McNamara , Louisiana State Representative
• 1977 –   Lane Carson , Louisiana State Representative
• 1978 –   Robert G. Jones , Louisiana State Senator
• 1978 -   Michele Bachmann , future U.S. Representative from Minnesota
• 1978 –   Chris Smith , later U.S. Representative from   New Jersey   (1981–present). ^{[ 25 ]}
• 1978 –   Thomas Bliley , Mayor of Richmond, Virginia, and later U.S. Representative from   Virginia   (1981–2001)
• 1979 –   Armistead I. Selden Jr. , former U.S. Representative from   Alabama   (1953–1969) and   United States Ambassador to New Zealand   (1974–1979)
• 1979 –   Clay Ford , Arkansas Democrat State Representative-turned-Florida Republican

• 1980s –   Mike Pence , U.S Representative for   Indiana . Later   Governor of Indiana   (2013–2017) and   Vice President of the United States   (2017–2021) ^{[ 26 ]}
• 1980 –   Sam Yorty , former U.S. Representative for   California   (1951–1955) and   Mayor of Los Angeles   (1961–1973)
• 1980 –   Mac Collins , later U.S. Representative from   Georgia   (1993–2005)
• 1980 –   Jim Donelon , later Louisiana   Insurance Commissioner   (2006–present)
• 1980 –   Jesse Monroe Knowles , Louisiana State Senator
• 1980 –   Frank D. White , later   Governor of Arkansas   (1981–1983) ^{[ 27 ]}
• 1980 –   John Otho Marsh Jr. , former US House of Representative from Virginia 7th District (1963-1971), Secretary of the Army (1981-1989)
• 1981 –   Bob Stump , while U.S. Representative from   Arizona   (1977–2003)
• 1981 –   Eugene Atkinson , while U.S. Representative from   Pennsylvania   (1979–1983) ^{[ 28 ]}
• 1981 –   Larry Kudlow , later Director of the   National Economic Council   (2018–2021)
• 1981 –   Pete von Reichbauer , Washington State Senator ^{[ 29 ]}
• 1982 –   Condoleezza Rice , later   United States National Security Advisor   (2001–2005) and   United States Secretary of State   (2005–2009) ^{[ 30 ]}
• 1982 –   Joseph P. Wyatt Jr. , former U.S. Representative from   Texas   (1979–1981)
• 1982 –   Franklin Sutton , Georgia State Senator
• 1983 –   Phil Gramm , while U.S. Representative from   Texas   (1979–1985) and later U.S. Senator from   Texas   (1985–2002)
• 1983 –   Bob Martinez , while   Mayor of Tampa . Later   Governor of Florida   (1987–1991) and   Director of the National Drug Control Policy   (1991–1993)
• 1983 –   Edward D.L.G. Pangelinan , while   Resident Representative   from the   Northern Mariana Islands   (1978–1984) ^{[ 31 ]}
• 1984 –   V.J. Bella , Louisiana State Representative
• 1984 –   Andy Ireland , while U.S. Representative from   Florida   (1977–1993)
• 1984 –   H. Edward Knox ,   Mayor of the City of Charlotte
• 1984 –   Sonny Callahan , Alabama State Senator. Later U.S Representative from Alabama (1985–2003)
• 1985 –   Jeane Kirkpatrick , while   U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations   (1981–1985) ^{[ 32 ]}
• 1985 –   Edward J. King , former   governor of Massachusetts   (1979–1983) ^{[ 33 ]}
• 1985 –   Dexter Lehtinen , Florida State Representative. Later   U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida   (1988–1992)
• 1985 –   Kent Hance , former U.S. Representative from Texas (1979–1985)
• 1985 –   Carole Keeton Strayhorn , later   Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts   (1999–2007)
• 1986 –   William Bennett , while   U.S. Secretary of Education   (1985–1988) ^{[ 34 ]}
• 1986 –   Richard Baker , Louisiana State Representative. Later U.S. Representative from   Louisiana   (1987–2008)
• 1986 –   Charles T. Canady , Florida State Representative. Later U.S. Representative from   Florida   (1993–2001), Justice of the   Supreme Court of Florida   (2008–present) and Chief Justice of the   Supreme Court of Florida   (2010–2012)
• 1986 –   Frank Rizzo , former   mayor of Philadelphia ^{[ 35 ]}
• 1986 –   James David Santini , former U.S. Representative from   Nevada   (1975–1983)
• 1987 –   Paul Hardy , former   secretary of state of Louisiana   (1976–1980), later   Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana   (1988–1992) ^{[ 36 ]}
• 1987 –   Roy Moore , later   Chief Justice   of the   Alabama Supreme Court   (2001–2003)
• 1987 –   Edward Vrdolyak   (born 1937), while member of the   Chicago City Council . ^{[ 37 ]}
• 1987 –   Sam Panayotovich , while Illinois State Representative and political ally of Vrdolyak. ^{[ 38 ]}
• 1987 –   James C. Smith ,   Attorney General of Florida   (1979–1987), later   Florida Secretary of State   (1987–1995)
• 1988 –   Jim McCrery , later U.S. Representative from Louisiana (1988–2009)
• 1988 –   David Duke , Louisiana State Representative
• 1988 –   Mike Johanns , later   Governor of Nebraska   (1999–2005),   United States Secretary of Agriculture   (2005–2007) and U.S. Senator from   Nebraska   (2009–2015)
• 1988 – John Rice,   Alabama State Senator ^{[ 39 ]}
• 1989 –   John Amari ,   Alabama State Senator
• 1989 –   Pete Johnson , while   State Auditor of Mississippi   (1988–1992)
• 1989 –   Bill Grant , while U.S. Representative from   Florida   (1987–1991)
• 1989 –   Tommy F. Robinson , while U.S. Representative from   Arkansas   (1985–1991)
• 1989 –   Rick Perry , Agriculture Commissioner of   Texas . Later   Governor of Texas   (2000–2015) ^{[ 40 ]}
• 1989 –   W. Fox McKeithen ,   Secretary of State of Louisiana   (1988–2005)
• 1989 –   Harvey S. Peeler Jr. , South Carolina State Senator ^{[ 41 ]}

• 1990 –   Jason Chaffetz , later U.S. Representative from   Utah   (2009–2017) ^{[ 42 ]}
• 1990 –   Tom Vandergriff , former U.S. Representative from   Texas   (1983–1985). Later elected as a County Judge (1991–2007)
• 1990 –   Vito Fossella , later U.S. Representative from   New York   (1997–2009)
• 1990 –   Lauch Faircloth , later U.S. Senator from   North Carolina   (1993–1999) ^{[ 43 ]}
• 1991 –   Bret Schundler ,   Mayor of Jersey City
• 1991 –   David Beasley , later   Governor of South Carolina   (1995–1999)
• 1991 –   Buddy Roemer , while   Governor of Louisiana   (1988–1992) ^{[ 44 ]}
• 1992 –   Byron Looper , Tennessee State Representative
• 1993 –   Edward H. Krebs ,   Pennsylvania State Representative
• 1993 –   J. Roland Smith , South Carolina State Representative ^{[ 45 ]}
• 1993 –   Pedro G. Nieto , Texas State Representative ^{[ 46 ]}
• 1994 –   Eli Bebout , Wyoming State Representative
• 1994 –   Woody Jenkins , Louisiana State Representative
• 1994 –   Ed Austin , while   Mayor of Jacksonville
• 1994 –   Walter B. Jones , while running as a Democrat for U.S. Representative from   North Carolina . U.S. Representative from   North Carolina   (1995–2019)
• 1994 –   Ed Whitfield , the day before filing as a candidate for the U.S. House in   Kentucky . U.S. Representative from   Kentucky   (1995–2016)
• 1994 –   Mike Bowers , while   Attorney General of Georgia   (1981–1997)
• 1994 –   Fob James , former   governor of Alabama   (1979–1983). Later   Governor of Alabama   (1995–1999)
• 1994 –   Richard Shelby , while U.S. Senator from   Alabama   (1987–2023)
• 1994 –   Bill Finkbeiner , Washington State Representative; later Washington Senate Republican Leader ^{[ 47 ]}
• 1995 –   Jimmy Hayes , while U.S. Representative from   Louisiana   (1987–1997)
• 1995 –   Greg Laughlin , while U.S. Representative from   Texas   (1989–1997)
• 1995 –   Ben Nighthorse Campbell , while U.S. Senator from   Colorado   (1993–2005)
• 1995 –   Billy Tauzin , while U.S. Representative from   Louisiana   (1980–2005) ^{[ 48 ]}
• 1995 –   Nathan Deal , while U.S. Representative from   Georgia   (1993–2011). Later became the 82nd   Governor of Georgia   (2011–2019)
• 1995 –   Mike Parker , while U.S. Representative from   Mississippi   (1989–1999) ^{[ 49 ]}
• 1995 –   Susana Martinez , later   Governor of New Mexico   (2011–2019) ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1995 –   Mike Foster , later   Governor of Louisiana   (1996–2004) ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1995 –   Rusty Crowe , Tennessee State Senator ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1995 –   Milton H. Hamilton, Jr , Tennessee State Senator ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1995 –   Warren Chisum , Texas state representative
• 1995 –   Molly Spearman , South Carolina State Representative; later   South Carolina Superintendent of Education   (2015–2023) ^{[ 50 ]}
• 1995 –   Tom Campbell , Washington State Representative ^{[ 29 ]}
• 1995 – Dave Mastin, Washington State Representative ^{[ 29 ]}
• 1996 –   Ronnie Culbreth , Georgia State Representative ^{[ 51 ]}
• 1996 –   Norm Coleman , while   Mayor of St Paul . Later U.S. Senator from   Minnesota   (2003–2009) ^{[ 52 ]}
• 1996 –   John Hoeven , later   Governor of North Dakota   (2000–2010), later U.S. Senator from   North Dakota   (2011–present) ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1996 –   Cleta Mitchell , previously a member of the Oklahoma House of Representatives (1976–1984) ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1996 –   Hugh Leatherman , South Carolina State Senator ^{[ 53 ]}
• 1996 –   Thomas C. Alexander , South Carolina State Senator
• 1996 –   Paul Zellinsky , Washington State Representative ^{[ 54 ]}
• 1997 –   Steve Windom , Alabama State Senator, later   Lieutenant Governor of Alabama   (1999–2003) ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1997 –   Kevin Mannix , Oregon State Representative ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1997 –   Chip Bailey , Alabama State Senator ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1997 –   Ronald Johnson , Alabama State Representative ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1998 –   Harry C. Goode Jr. ,   Florida State Representative ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1998 –   George Wallace Jr. , former   Alabama State Treasurer   (1987–1995) ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1998 –   Gerald Allen , Alabama State Representative ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1998 –   Steve Flowers , Alabama State Representative ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1998 –   Herman Badillo , former U.S. Representative from   New York   (1971–1977) ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1998 –   David G. Boschert , Maryland State Delegate ^{[ citation needed ]}
• 1998 –   Sonny Perdue ,   Georgia   State Senator. Later became the 81st   Governor of Georgia   (2003–2011) and the 31st   United States Secretary of Agriculture

List of party switchers in the United States - Wikipedia

"Using newly available data, we reexamine one of the largest partisan shifts in a modern democracy: Southern whites’ exodus from the Democratic Party. We show that defection among racially conservative whites explains the entire decline from 1958 to 1980. Racial attitudes also predict whites’ earlier partisan shifts. Relative to recent work, we find a much larger role for racial views and essentially no role for income growth or (non-race-related) policy preferences in explaining why Democrats 
“lost” the South."

Why Did the Democrats Lose the South? Bringing New Data to an Old Debate (princeton.edu)

I know, facts and reality aren't really some folks preference, but it's a good read for anyone who isn't just another worthless lazy conservative bigot trying desperately to hide their blatantly racist roots.

If those aren't there, where would questions come from? 

So we should leave up monuments to the confederacy to help new generations think about and question the need for such celebrations of racism? Really? So you would support erecting dozens of statues of Hitler all over Germany with him looking regal and commanding attention so that modern day Germans wouldn't forget the 7 million + Jews Hitler abused and murdered? Ah, such a champion of history to make sure none of us forget the atrocities by taking up public space in our parks, streets and government buildings by displaying memorials to FUCKING racists who fought and killed other Americans all so they could continue OWNING other humans and treating them like cattle.

So you would support erecting dozens of statues of Hitler all over Germany with him looking regal and commanding attention so that modern day Germans wouldn't forget the 7 million + Jews Hitler abused and murdered?

I don't live in Germany so I don't give a shit what they do.

Ah, such a champion of history to make sure none of us forget the atrocities by taking up public space in our parks, streets and government buildings by displaying memorials to FUCKING racists who fought and killed other Americans all so they could continue OWNING other humans and treating them like cattle.

Yet we are "remembering" the Springfield site as something that should not be repeated. You really need to think this through before you comment.

So you have a list of politicians who no longer wanted to be associated with the party of Klansman, good for you, any proof they were racist pieces of shit like Clinton, Biden or Byrd?

Have you ever seen the geographical breakdown of the congressional vote on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ? 

graphical breakdown of the congressional vote on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ? 

What about support for LBJ's great society? Were the southern democrats who voted for that "conservatives?

Labeling someone "conservative" because they supported Jim Crow is simply ignorant. The Roosevelt loving new dealers voted for Jim Crow too.  There were conservative southern racists and progressive southern racists.  

Labeling someone "conservative" because they supported Jim Crow is simply ignorant.

But how else to distance themselves from the past?

The opposition to the Civil Rights Act corresponded to geography, not political party. Very few congresspeople from the south voted in favor, whichever party they were. 

It really is sad how some refuse to acknowledge the large number of former Southern Democrats who felt their party was abandoning their racist ideals and thus switched parties over the last 40 years.

It’s sad that some have shallow understanding of the 60, not 40 year swing to the South being red at attribute the solely to racism.  Perhaps they suffer from some sort of southernphobia.

Sure have. The Democrats fought its passage tooth and nail. It was up to the Republicans to get it passed.

 "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

LBJ

Yet we are "remembering" the Springfield site as something that should not be repeated. You really need to think this through before you comment.

A memorial remembering the 8 black Americans who were murdered by racists is VERY different than celebrating and memorializing confederate Generals who fought to keep black Americans enslaved.

We have many memorials of horrible events to remember the innocent victims like the memorial at Auschwitz. It's not celebrating what the Nazi's did to those in the death camps. We have memorials at Pearl Harbor to remember those who lost their lives that day when we were attacked as well as those brave soldiers who fought to defend us. We don't have a giant statue there memorializing Emperor Hirohito.

I would have no problem with monuments to the victims of the confederacy, to the slaves they abused and fought to keep enslaved. I wouldn't mind monuments placed all over the south celebrating the confederacy getting their asses kicked or bronze statues of the Union Generals, wouldn't that also "remind" everyone of the civil war? Problem is there are sadly many bigots in the South and all over our nation that want to celebrate and idolize the confederacy which is why they object to the taking down of the confederate general statues and memorials, and they still gnash their teeth over the fact that "their" side lost and no doubt many of those worthless pieces of shit would love to still see black Americans enslaved or at minimum legalized segregation. Those are who defend confederate statues and were there that day in Charlottesville chanting "Jews will not replace us!" and no, not a single fucking one of them was a "very fine person".

So it's okay to remember. That should stand for all history.

"tear down all reference to the civil war" party. 

Who is advocating for tearing down all reference to the Civil War?

I have seen advocates for tearing down statues that cast confederate leaders as heroes. And that’s understandable. Not only did they engage in armed rebellion against the United States, but their cause was to preserve a system of slavery.

I do not think you will see those people calling for the removal of any memorial for the victims of that system.

If we leave history up to the far right the kids will be taught that lynching was a jobs program (casket tester) and Jim Crow was a Disney character. 

If we leave history up to the far right the kids will be taught that lynching was a jobs program (casket tester) and Jim Crow was a Disney character. 

I'm certain that it didn't take presidential action to ensure that this incident is part of the curriculum of Illinois  public education.

I'm certain that it didn't take presidential action to ensure that this incident is part of the curriculum of Illinois  public education.

It should be part of every curriculum that is teaching future generations about American history. Sadly, it seems some, mostly in former confederate States, want to gloss over and divert any blame for their ancestor's violent racist past to some weird fictional "other" white conservative racists that apparently just evaporated into thin air leaving only good God fearing white conservatives who have no connection to those racists in the same houses and same towns they grew up in which were previously heavily segregated and filled with discrimination by some "other" racist white folk who apparently, according to them, became liberal Democrats who support affirmative action and support black Americans and moved to California or New York from the former confederate conservative States that are now deep red States. Everyone now inhabiting those former confederate States and who defend confederate monuments and fly confederate flags are all the good white conservative Christians who just want what's best for black Americans and just magically appeared in those States after the racist whites all moved out... That altered American history would almost be hilarious if it wasn't such a monumental lie and so fucking sad that they're even trying such a moronic con game.

Sadly, it seems some, mostly in former confederate States, want to gloss over and divert any blame for their ancestor's violent racist past to some weird fictional "other" white conservative racists that apparently just evaporated into thin air leaving only good God fearing white conservatives who have no connection to those racists in the same houses and same towns they grew up in which were previously heavily segregated and filled with discrimination by some "other" racist white folk who apparently, according to them, became liberal Democrats who support affirmative action and support black Americans and moved to California or New York from the former confederate conservative States that are now deep red States.

Sadly, run on sentences are difficult to read for comprehension and aren't good for sarcasm.

Everyone now inhabiting those former confederate States and who defend confederate monuments and fly confederate flags are all the good white conservative Christians who just want what's best for black Americans and just magically appeared in those States after the racist whites all moved out... That altered American history would almost be hilarious if it wasn't such a monumental lie and so fucking sad that they're even trying such a moronic con game.

The article is about racial violence in the Land of Lincoln.

Exactly.

The article is about

thats never stopped you before

thats never stopped you before

Stopped what?