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10.8 Million People Who Voted For Biden in 2020 Did Not Vote in 2024. Why?

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  one month ago  •  29 comments

By:   Citizen Earth (Daily Kos)

10.8 Million People Who Voted For Biden in 2020 Did Not Vote in 2024. Why?
The past 8 years, Trump has done virtually everything imaginable to alienate women, non-whites, LGBTQ+, Reagan Republicans, etc.

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As usual, Democrats are in a frenzy trying to blame the loss by Kamala Harris on voters, the media, Republicans, foreign interference, and the reliable excuse of racism and misogyny.  But none of these gaslighting excuses explains the loss of 10 million Biden voters.  The drop in Democrat voter turnout has been so large that the conspiracy of Biden stealing the 2020 election has been revived. 

Democrats can't explain it.  The unbiased liberal media can't explain it.  The political leadership of the Democratic Party can't explain it.  The finger pointers of the academic elite can't explain it.  So, the obvious thing to do is ignore it.  Kamala Harris failing to motivate voters to go to the polls is an inconvenient fact that has rapidly fallen off the news cycle.


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November 09, 2024  --  If this has been discussed anywhere here, in print, online, or TV, I haven’t seen it.

In 2020, Joe Biden received 81,284,666 votes. Four days ago, Kamala Harris received 70,480,253 votes as of this posting. That’s an astounding 10,804,413 fewer votes for Harris than Biden. So far, Donald Trump has received 142,382 more votes in 2024 than in 2020, so those 10.8 million people who voted for Biden in ‘20 and didn’t for Harris in ‘24, also didn’t vote in significant numbers for Trump in ‘24, which makes sense. Biden voters were moderates, liberals, and maybe a few of those remaining Republicans with a sense of decency and loyalty to the constitution, so voting for Harris should have been natural. Clearly, she and/or Biden did something significant we’re unaware of that alienated a substantial number of voters.

The past 8 years, Trump has done virtually everything imaginable to alienate women, non-whites, LGBTQ+, Reagan Republicans, etc. Through his inaction, ignorance, and indifference on the pandemic, he killed off hundreds of thousands of his own voters. He happily proposed policies and actions which, if they weren’t patently unconstitutional, would, for all practical purposes, end the Great Experiment in democracy, and were widely projected to tank the economy, and throw the world into chaos. For God’s sake, he was a convicted felon and sexual predator! Yet, he was still able to garner virtually the same vote total as his previous run at the White House.

In contrast, Harris campaigned on a message of joy, equity, and inclusion, and respecting the Constitution and its norms. She seemingly was expanding the Big Tent, welcoming in disaffected Cheney/Reagan Republicans, and exciting people of every ethnicity, gender i.d., faith, etc. We saw it in her rallies. We saw it in her fundraising through new donors and the volume of small dollar donations. We saw it in new registrations when Biden stepped aside and the Democratic party solidified around her candidacy, and again when Taylor Swift announced her endorsement. We know 2/3 of of Americans support a woman’s right to bodily autonomy. Other Harris policy positions were similarly popular. If she had any skeletons in her closet, they never came out.

And yet despite these stark differences, 10,804,413 people who should have been Harris voters were so dissatisfied with both Harris and Trump, they sat this dance out. As unfathomable as I find it, they decided it wouldn’t make any difference in their lives or the lives of those they care most about whether Harris or Trump was the Chief Executive and Commander in Chief of the United States.

I want to know why. The Democratic Party needs to know why. Pre-election polls typically focus on Likely Voters because they’re the ones who can be counted on to vote. I get that. But any good marketing pro in any industry will tell you that it is equally important to know the reasons why former customers no longer use your product/service, and why people who fit your customer profile but have never used your product/service, haven’t. As part of the postmortem on the election just concluded, I hope the various Democratic organizations and other allied groups invest a bunch of money into identifying and canvasing these two groups of people to get insights into how we can reclaim those 10.8 million votes, and earn new votes from the eligible voters who don’t vote but fit the profile of a traditional Democratic voter. Personally, I think we’ll find it is some combination of misogyny, holding Biden/Harris responsible for earlier inflation and prices that are still high despite our economy having fared better than every other country’s over the same time period, and possibly antisemitism heightened by dissatisfaction with Biden/Harris’ handling of Israel/Palestine.

Until we gain these insights and know for sure, Democrats won’t have a complete understanding of the market, and any strategies they come up with for future elections are doomed to be only marginally effective. And it is painfully clear we need to know more to win when it counts.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    one month ago

Democrats blame the media for not adequately covering Trump.  Weren't these non-voters listening to Kamala Harris, Tim Waltz, and their celebrity supporters?  Kamala Harris was showing up in popup ads on web sites so voter ignorance is really not a valid excuse.

Democrats claim voters won't elect a woman because they're racists and misogynists.  But it was Biden voters who didn't turn out.  Democrats are blaming their own base of support.  Which raises a question about the traditional role of women in Democrats' coalition of cultural identity?  

Democrats tell us we weren't outraged enough.  Democrats tell us we don't care about democracy.  Democrats tells us we just don't care about the future of the country.  But it was Biden voters who didn't show up.  It was Democrats' base of support who let them down.  Gaslighting those who did vote won't bring those lost Biden voters back into the fold.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2  Vic Eldred    one month ago

The great outlier.


 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago
10.8 Million People Who Voted For Biden in 2020 Did Not Vote in 2024. Why?

Because the deceased and non-citizens were removed from the voting rolls?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4  George    one month ago

256

Fun with math, is this new math or have the last 2 democrat candidates been so bad that their supporters wouldn’t even get off the couch to vote?

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
4.1  squiggy  replied to  George @4    one month ago

That's a lot of cemeteries to canvass.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5  charger 383    one month ago

Makes you wonder if they were real in 2020

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1  bugsy  replied to  charger 383 @5    one month ago
Makes you wonder if they were real in 2020

It does doesn't it?

One of the most boring candidates that hid in his basement for the majority of the campaign gets 16 million more votes than even Obama?

Either that or democrats really didn't like Obama the way they say they did. Of course, if they say they didn't, they would be kicked off the democratic plantation and labeled as a racist.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @5    one month ago

If what were real?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.2    one month ago

The people, the votes.

 
 
 
George
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6  George    one month ago
10.8 Million People Who Voted For Biden in 2020 Did Not Vote in 2024. Why?

Kamala.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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7  Jack_TX    one month ago

I'm curious how long we're going to ignore the obvious and pretend she wasn't a terrible candidate who couldn't explain her policies, didn't seem to understand most of the issues, and couldn't do basic math.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Jack_TX @7    one month ago

Projection

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    one month ago

Denial

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @7    one month ago

Better than a traitor. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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7.2.1  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    one month ago
Better than a traitor. 

Apparently not.

 
 
 
George
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7.2.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    one month ago

The hard working American people didn’t think so, they felt Kamala was far more worthless.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.2.3  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    one month ago
Better than a traitor. 

who was charged with treason?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @7.2.3    one month ago

You appear to be addicted to trolling. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.2.5  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.4    one month ago

All you have to do is answer the question and I will stop asking it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.4    one month ago

Like a broken record......

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @7.2.5    one month ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7.2.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @7.2.3    one month ago

In common usage, a traitor is someone who betrays a person or people. It does not have to be used as a legal term. Please stop with this as you make me a ton of unnecessary work.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.2.9  Gsquared  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.8    one month ago

Finally.  Thanks, Perrie.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.8    one month ago

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bugsy
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7.2.11  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.8    one month ago

I will stop, but only because you asked. 

Perrie, for context, JR has posted more than once a definition from Miriam-Webster, but what he failed to do each time is post the second definition, to wit...

2. one who commits treason

This is something Trump did not do, as there would have been one or more prosecutors/DAs that would have charged him with treason. No one has.

Calling Trump a traitor is nothing more that leftists fantasy and whining and because he does not fit the definition of traitor, the accusations should stop, but I know they won't. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.2.12  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @7.2.11    one month ago

The word "lean" can mean that a person or thing is propped up at an angle to the supporting base,  or it can mean that one is tending to favor one choice over another, or it can mean a piece of meat without much fat.  

The word lean has at least three definitions.   Do they invalidate each other?  Of course not. No one says you cant describe a piece of meat as "lean" because the meat is not physically leaning against a bottle of steak sauce on the table. 

Your position that Trump is not a traitor because he hasnt been charged with treason is unsupportable .  Yet, you and a couple others keep going back to it.    Those comments are trolling and the mods should delete them on sight. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.12    one month ago

He is the President.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.2.14  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.12    one month ago

Nice try John, but yet another fail.

We have explained to you extensively that traitor and treason are synonymous to the other and can stand together with similar definitions. 

Your examples of lean mean nothing. Ech form of the word have very different meaning 

For the last time, you are incorrect calling Trump a traitor because he has never been charged with treason. 

 
 
 
The Chad
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8  The Chad    one month ago

Vote by mail. Trump won 3 times.

 
 

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