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'It's blackmail': Ukrainians react to Trump demand for $500bn share of minerals

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  2 months ago  •  8 comments

By:   Luke Harding (the Guardian)

'It's blackmail': Ukrainians react to Trump demand for $500bn share of minerals
Ukraine's lithium deposits are among biggest in Europe and the US is looking for 'payback' for previous military assistance

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Ukraine can release the American taxpayers any time they choose.  There's nothing Ukraine has that the United States needs.  Ukraine can keep its lithium and the we'll keep our money.  That's fair, ain't it?  Just because American business leaders are idiots doesn't mean the United States has to be held hostage by retrograde commie Neanderthals.  

According to the  U.S. Geological Survey , America has 14 million metric tons of lithium resources, ranking third worldwide after Bolivia with 23 million metric tons and Argentina with 22 million metric tons. And recent news suggests the U.S. has even greater potential for expanding our ability to meet domestic and global lithium demand.

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Drawing in the snow with his finger, Mykola Hrechukha sketched out how Ukraine's new lithium mine might look. It would have a deep central shaft, with a series of side tunnels, he said. "The lithium is good everywhere. The biggest concentration is at a depth of 200-500 metres," he said. "We should be able to extract 4,300 tonnes a day. The potential is terrific."

For now, though, there is little sign of activity. The deposit is buried under a large sloping field, used in communist times to grow beetroot and wheat. The mine's proposed entrance is in an abandoned former-Soviet village, Liodiane, today a scruffy grove of acacia and maple trees. The only inhabitant is a security guard, who lives on the 150-hectare site in an ancient Gaz-53 truck. Wild boar and even a wolf sometimes wander past.

The lithium deposit is located in central Ukraine's Kirovohrad region, about 350km (217 miles) south of the capital, Kyiv. Solar-powered scientific instruments measure air temperature and seismic activity. In 2017 a Ukrainian company, UkrLithiumMining, bought a government licence to exploit the site for 20 years. It cost $5m. Geological surveys confirm that the ore, known as petalite, can be used to produce batteries for electric vehicles and mobile phones.

According to the US president, Donald Trump, these underground reserves should now belong to America. Last week, the new US treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, visited Kyiv. He presented Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, with a surprise claim to half of Ukraine's mineral wealth, as well as to its oil, gas, and infrastructure such as ports. The $500bn bill was "payback" for previous US military assistance to Ukraine, the White House explained.

Zelenskyy refused to sign the agreement. He made it clear Washington had to give security guarantees before any deal could be reached on the country's vast natural resources, about 5% of global mineral reserves. He also pointed out that the US had given $69.2bn in military aid - less than the sum Trump was now demanding - and added that other partners such as the EU, Canada and the UK might be interested in investing, too.

Speaking on Wednesday, shortly before Trump called him "a dictator", Zelenskyy said he could not "sell Ukraine away". He was willing to work on "a serious document", he said, which ensured Russia did not attack Ukraine again.

US and Ukrainian negotiators were seeking to move past the spectacular breakdown in transatlantic relations and to finalise a deal, Bloomberg said on Friday.

Commentators have described Trump's aggressive ultimatum as "mafia imperialism", a "colonial agreement", and reminiscent of what the Europeans did in the 18th century when they carved up Africa.

"It's as if we lost the war to America. This looks to me like reparations," Volodymyr Landa, a senior economist at the Centre for Economic Strategy thinktank in Kyiv, said. Ukraine's overall reserves are worth $14.8tn. They include lithium, titanium and uranium, as well as coal, steel, iron ore, and undersea shale gas. Many deposits had not been developed, Landa said, either because they were not feasible or due to political instability.

Others are in areas occupied by Russia. Ukraine's lithium deposits - about 500,000 tonnes' worth - are among the biggest in Europe. One site is in Kruta Balka, near the southern port of Berdiansk, which the Kremlin occupied early in its 2022 invasion. Another is in the Shevchenkivskyi district, on the frontline in the eastern Donetsk oblast. Russian troops recently took control of the area.

The deposit in Liodiane is one of two under Ukrainian control.

According to Landa, Ukraine's minerals sector has "high risks and high rewards". There is a long history of foreign investment, he said, with French, Belgian and British engineers developing the country's coal industry in the 19th century. The city of Donetsk - seized by Russia in 2014 - was originally named Hughesovka, after the Welsh businessman John Hughes, who founded a steel plant and several coalmines in the region.

View image in fullscreenTetiana Slyvenko: 'He wants to take resources from a country in a time of war. How are we supposed to live?' Photograph: Julia Kochetova/The Guardian

Residents living near Liodiane said they supported the construction of a new lithium mine. They were not, however, ready to give the profits to Trump. "This idea is too much," Tetiana Slyvenko, a local administrator, said. "He wants to take resources from a country in a time of war. How are we supposed to live? We have children. It's as if the US seeks to deprive us of our economic potential. It would finish us off, the same as America did with Red Indians [Native Americans]."

Slyvenko said Russian rockets flew regularly over her village of Kopanky, in the Malovyskiy district, on their way to targets in western Ukraine. In December, she filmed three streaking overhead from her garden. "I said a few bad words. The rockets were flying very low. We are tired. Our emotions are understandably strong," she said. Two weeks ago, a shaheed missile crashed in a nearby field, not far from the shallow valley where the lithium is buried.

About 300 people live in the neighbouring villages of Kopanky and Haiivka, most of them elderly. Breaking off from ice fishing on Kopanky's picturesque frozen lake, 72-year-old Stanislav Ryabchenko said he hoped the mine would bring young people back to the community and create jobs. "What Trump suggests is blackmail. He knows we can't push the Russians out on our own. We need joint production, not a takeover," he said, showing off two carp.

1:05Resident films Russian rockets flying close to lithium mine - video

Denys Alyoshin, UkrLithiumMining's chief strategy officer, said his company was looking for foreign investment. It would cost $350m to build a new and modern mine, in accordance with EU environmental standards, he said. He acknowledged that construction could begin only once Russia's war against Ukraine was over. Ideally, he said, Ukraine would process the ore in country into a concentrate. This would then be refined into battery-grade lithium carbonate.

Trump has said he wants a share of "rare earths", a class of 17 minerals. In fact, Ukraine has few of these. The US president appears to have confused them with rare metals and critical materials, such as lithium and graphite. Alyoshin said there was a further misconception that quick profits could be made. "People think you put a shovel in the ground and dig up money. We have been working on this project for five or six years. With investment we can begin production in 2028," he said.

View image in fullscreenIce fishing Kopanky's picturesque frozen lake. Photograph: Julia Kochetova/The Guardian

Back in Liodiane, the only sound was birdsong. In the 1960s and 70s the village was home to agricultural labourers working in a kolkhoz, a Soviet collective farm. There were two streets, a cluster of clay-and-straw houses and a community centre known as the "Club". The last inhabitant died in 1983. In the pre-electric vehicle era, lithium was used in the ceramic and glass industries. Soviet geologists discovered the seam half a century ago, but decided it was not worth exploiting.

Hrechukha, the mining company's local representative, said there was a ready available workforce, after a uranium mine 20km down the road in the town of Smolino was decommissioned last year. His firm was keen to cooperate with outside partners, he stressed, but only on the basis of international law. He said he respected the world's richest man, Elon Musk, whose Tesla car business required lithium. "We are interested in a long-term client," he said.

In the meantime, the US was far away. "I don't think US soldiers are going to be coming here anytime soon," Hrechukha predicted, surveying the white field. He added: "It's more likely aliens from another planet will turn up."


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    2 months ago

The only thing we have to fear is ourselves.  NIMBY liberals and quick-buck business idiots have allowed the United States to be held hostage by every backward commie country on the planet.  The United States can boast of having the stupidest, most ignorant, most worthless business leaders in the history of mankind.  The only problem with the Federal government is that dimwits keep trying to make it run as badly as American business.  

Ukraine has nothing the United States needs.  Only an idiot businessman would try to corner the cabbage market by holding back the United States.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @1    2 months ago
The only thing we have to fear is ourselves.  NIMBY liberals and quick-buck business idiots have allowed the United States to be held hostage by every backward commie country on the planet.  The United States can boast of having the stupidest, most ignorant, most worthless business leaders in the history of mankind. 

Have you ever spent much time in any countries other than the U.S.? I'm curious-- if you hate the U.S. so much, have you ever though of moving elsewhere? 

Based on much of what you post on NT, it seems you might be much happier living in a different country..???

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @1.1    2 months ago
Have you ever spent much time in any countries other than the U.S.? I'm curious-- if you hate the U.S. so much, have you ever though of moving elsewhere?  Based on much of what you post on NT, it seems you might be much happier living in a different country..???

Haven't you heard?  The United States is a nation of immigrants.  The world comes to us.  Every foreign virtue and vice can be found in the United States.  There's not need to travel anywhere.

An Asian-Indian first generation American was supposed to save our democracy.  Donald Trump, himself, is a first-generation American.  Even now the Federal government is being dismantled by a South African with Apartheid zeal.  The borders of the United States have been thrown wide open to any culture, ethnicity, and heritage.  

The United States is home to fascists, communists, ISIS, Hamas, apartheid, Khmer Rouge.  The KKK pale in comparison to the NAZIs.  And we have more NAZIs in the United States than KKK.  Even our home-grown hate can't compete with what has immigrated to the United States.

Why would I need to travel anywhere else?  The world can be found outside my door.  Based on much of what you post on NT, that's what you've hoped to accomplish.  Congratulations!  You've won.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2  Tacos!    2 months ago
"What Trump suggests is blackmail. He knows we can't push the Russians out on our own.

I mean, technically, it’s more like extortion, not blackmail. Neither is cool, though.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tacos! @2    2 months ago

Fuck them.

How is Ukraine going to play the US taxpayer back for the hundreds of billions in military and financial aid?

We already know the answer, they never will.

It is time to stop wasting money and resources on Ukraine; and concentrate on the real threat to the world China.

The faux John Wayne in tailor made khakis can try his shtick on Europe some more; I am sure they will continue to promise him the moon and not deliver.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    2 months ago
Fuck them.

Nice. But the lack of basic human empathy is totally on-brand for the White Nationalist Religious Right in this country. Sad, but unsurprising anymore.

How is Ukraine going to play the US taxpayer back

It was aid, so I don’t expect it to be paid back.

“If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive payment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive as much again.” - Luke 6:34.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    2 months ago
How is Ukraine going to play the US taxpayer back for the hundreds of billions in military and financial aid?

It used to be that we helped out friends and allies-- but under trump that may be changing.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.1    2 months ago
It was aid, so I don’t expect it to be paid back. “If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive payment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive as much again.” - Luke 6:34.

It seems that some of the people who are such big advocates of selecetively posting things on school walls (like the Ten Commandments) may be leaving out certain parts of Christ's teachings .

 
 

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