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Black voters are fleeing Biden in droves. Here's why | TheHill

  
Via:  Texan1211  •  2 years ago  •  102 comments

By:   Joe Concha, Opinion Contributor (TheHill)

Black voters are fleeing Biden in droves. Here's why | TheHill
Black voters are fleeing President Biden in droves. And it's hard to see a scenario under which they come back anytime soon.

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Black voters are fleeing President Biden.  And it's hard to see a scenario under which they come back anytime soon.
President Biden's poll numbers have been stunningly bad lately. The most recent CNN poll has him at 58 percent disapproval, 41 percent approval. In December, Biden was at 49 percent approval in the same poll. And among those who disapprove of his performance, 56 percent say the president didn't accomplish anything in his first year of which they approve.
To be fair, President Trump's poll numbers were similarly dismal at this stage of his presidency. But there are two major differences:
1) Trump's polls could be largely explained by a special counsel's investigation into possible Russia collusion and the 2016 election (which ultimately led nowhere).
2) Trump's base, those who strongly supported him, was infinitely stronger and more reliable than Biden's current base, which at just 15 percent strongly approving ain't much of a base at all.
Meanwhile, a majority of Democrats don't even want Joe Biden to run again in 2024, with just 48 percent supporting the idea. This is unheard of after just one year.
Two more big numbers to consider: Less than 7-in-10 Black voters (69 percent) support the 46th president. This is significant, because more than 9-in-10 Black voters (92 percent) voted for him in 2020.

So, we're talking about an almost 25-point drop in a relatively short period of time. Inflation obviously is playing a huge role here, with the Wall Street Journal estimating that the higher price of goods is costing families an extra $276 per month, or an additional $3,300 or so annually. Many poor and middle-income families and single parents and individuals simply cannot afford that while living paycheck-to-paycheck.

It bears repeating: Joe Biden won the Democratic nomination for president because he wasn't Sen. Bernie Sanders(I-Vt.) and won the general election because he wasn't Donald Trump.
But his handlers thought he had a big mandate to be the next FDR, to radically change the country by expanding government in ways never seen before. Trillions in new spending have already been signed into law. Trillions more were proposed via Build Back Better, with the administration arguing that such spending would reduce inflation and the deficit, which makes zero sense.
Sensible Americans, including two key members of Biden's own party in Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema(D-Ariz.), rejected the radical proposal. Ultimately, many voters, some suffering from Trump fatigue that came from non-stop drama in the White House, just wanted a return to normalcy, and not a jump to a socialist America.
And now we're seeing an administration like a rudderless ship at sea, seemingly with no port.

"I don't think he has lived up to a lot of the campaign promises that he made, especially given the role of Black voters in helping him become the president of the United States," Nekima Levy Armstrong, a civil rights attorney and activist who is also a former president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP, said recently.
"We pointed out issues related to mass incarceration, to economic inequality, of course, and to what is in the news now with the push to advance voting rights," Armstrong added. "I feel like Biden is basically doing the bare minimum in terms of being attentive to the needs and issues facing the Black community."

Biden made "voting rights" (which is really just a federal takeover of elections) his focus to start 2022, pushing the hyperbole machine to maximum levels during a widely panned speech in Georgia.

"I ask every elected official in America: How do you want to be remembered?" Biden asked. "At consequential moments in history, they present a choice: Do you want to be on the side of Dr. King or George Wallace? Do you want to be on the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be on the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?"

Civil Rights activist and MSNBC host Al Sharpton said the speech wasn't about gaining the support of those who oppose or are on the fence about the proposed legislation. "In this particular case, dealing with my friend and brother Joe, if he was trying to get votes, it was not the vote-getting speech," Sharpton said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"I'm a minister. Either you get up, and you try to persuade people of their sins and appeal to their better angels. But when they come to church, and they still have the jug of whiskey up under the pew, you say, you're going to hell. I think he gave a 'you're going to hell' speech."

The vote would fail in the Senate 48-52.

Black Americans had a rough 2021, particularly with COVID-19. They had a 2.5 times higher chance of dying of the virus than whites, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The Black unemployment rate is at 6.9 percent, which is double the white unemployment rate. And crime continues to hit urban areas the hardest, with 16 cities setting homicide records in 2021.

The midterms are less than 270 days away. Democrats will almost certainly lose their razor-thin majority in the House of Representatives. Republicans need a net gain of just one seat to take back the Senate. The president's overall approval is in the 30s for the first time in the RealClearPolitics average.

It isn't just GOP voters who oppose him; it's also most independents. But what should be most alarming to Democrats is the erosion of support among Black voters, who are increasingly feeling buyer's remorse on Biden.

Joe Concha is a media and politics columnist.


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Texan1211
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1  seeder  Texan1211    2 years ago

Looks like the midterms are going to be LOTS of fun!!!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1    2 years ago

Why does the Senate need one more Republican to have a majority?  They already have two.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    2 years ago
Why does the Senate need one more Republican to have a majority?  They already have two.

Best pass that startling info onto to Chuck Schumer.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    2 years ago

Startling?  Why?  Even I know it and I'm on the other side of the world.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    2 years ago

If that's the attitude of liberals, then Manchin and Sinema should switch parties and McConnell will be majority leader again and we can put an end to all this radical nonsense.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    2 years ago

I don't know haw you could generalize the attitude of a multi-million person class of people from a comment by a person who doesn't live in the USA or is even an American.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.4    2 years ago

Your view is shared my many like minded people right here. That's not a generalization.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    2 years ago

Because the Democrats have the majority on the US Senate.

This is an indisputable fact.

 
 
 
CB
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2  CB    2 years ago

jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif Well, when one reaches rock bottomjrSmiley_72_smiley_image.gif the only way up is with a 'rope' or set of stairs . jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif WATCH THIS SPACE.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1  Split Personality  replied to  CB @2    2 years ago

Every even year we see the same thing. 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020 now 2022. same old same old.

From Real Clear Politics, the sgteport, the noqreport, The Hill, CBN, investmentwatchblog, Breitbart, Alex Jones etc.

"Dems leaving their party in droves", "Dems not Christian enough", "not hetero enough", "blacks leaving in droves", "Latinos leaving by the droves", Blexit, leave "the plantation" /s.

I have been hearing about the demise of the two party system and the Dems for 60 years

but the WH, House and Senate keep changing hands regularly.  Imagine that? how could that be?

In a perfect world each minority group would be evenly divided between two parties.

Just as in every other industrialized country, things would be no different

under a five party system or a single party system. Crime doesn't care about politics, it seeks to correct

the poverty, hunger and repression under whatever current form of government keeps them down.

but, but Hillary's emails !!!

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.1  CB  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    2 years ago

It is like trying to persuade a bulldozer its true responsibility is to make holes. Some conservatives want to impress, to brand, to 'stipulate' they are well-meaning people of a stable world, and yet what they manage to convey to the nation is narrow-minded bigotry on grand scales--and somehow bigotry breaks through as a positive stream of consciousness to keep the republican party alive and dare I say: Healthy. We desperately need a new party system. Why? Because in the right quantity our political parties can refresh, renew, and start thinking about behaving 'in concert' again. Or, at the worse, two parties can take the 'third' in the group out for good!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    2 years ago
but, but Hillary's emails !!!

Why are you dragging her into it?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @2    2 years ago

What leads you to believe they have hit rock bottom already?

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.1  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2    2 years ago

I am humoring the article, Texan1211.  (Did you see the emoticons laughing their way through the comment.)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @2.2.1    2 years ago

The article doesn't require humoring. It just needs to be read and understood.

 
 
 
CB
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3  CB    2 years ago
 just wanted a return to normalcy, and not a jump to a socialist America.

And there it is (again)! The 'ready' lie that tries and never tires of giving. "Socialism!" Our capitalist systems enhanced is not socialism. What is at stake here is conservative and some conservative dominated fear people of color will finally get equity or equality or both at the same time. So the name-calling, the coded hatred continues unabated by reason and yes, common ancestry as people all connected to this land.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3    2 years ago
And there it is (again)! The 'ready' lie that tries and never tires of giving. "Socialism!" Our capitalist systems enhanced is not socialism. What is at stake here is conservative and some conservative dominated fear people of color will finally get equity or equality or both at the same time. So the name-calling, the coded hatred continues unabated by reason and yes, common ancestry as people all connected to this land.

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CB
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3.1.1  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    2 years ago

You will need to post the RELEVANT parts in plain sight for me to see it. Or, simply summarize it (in a sentence or paragraph).

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.1    2 years ago
You will need to post the RELEVANT parts in plain sight for me to see it.

Nothing I could post will burst through the wall of racism.

If you choose not to see it, that is all on you alone.

When you play the race card at every turn, your area of debate becomes very, very narrow.

I won't indulge in it.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.3  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.2    2 years ago

Okay. So now you know that I will not see it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.3    2 years ago
Okay. So now you know that I will not see it.

Hell, I knew THAT 3 days ago. That is YOUR "choice". Live with it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @3    2 years ago
Our capitalist systems enhanced is not socialism

That is like calling CRT by another name so they can say CRT is not being taught in schools yet still teaching 8 year olds they are racist.  It makes me question just how dumb the far left wing nuts think American's are.  

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.1  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2    2 years ago

It is your contention the "far left" is not American? Please clarify, as I am taking time out to ask.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.1    2 years ago
It is your contention the "far left" is not American? Please clarify, as I am taking time out to ask.

My God, WHERE do you READ this CRAP at??????????????????????????????????

WHERE did he say ONE FREAKING thing you insinuated?????????????????????

Can you no longer just debate what is CLEARLY before you, or are you compelled to INVENT things to argue because it is "easier" to debate words you put on others' mouths?

That is simply LAZY and INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST!

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.3  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.2    2 years ago

It's not for you, so miss me with all that.  Right Down the Center?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.3    2 years ago
It's not for you, so miss me with all that. 

Don't think I will.

I asked a question based on your post. 

One you seem unwilling (shocker) to answer.

I wonder why.......................

/s

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.5  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.4    2 years ago
It's not for you, so miss me with all that. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.5    2 years ago

Don't think I will.

I asked a question based on your post. 

One you seem unwilling (shocker) to answer.

I wonder why.......................

/s

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.7  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.6    2 years ago

Some conservatives are so needy. /s

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.7    2 years ago
Some conservatives are so needy. /s

Some liberals can't debate honestly.

NO sarcasm intended or meant.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @3.2.1    2 years ago

Never said that but it doesn't surprise me you try to twist it that way when you can not say anything of actual substance.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @3.2.3    2 years ago

I think he said it just fine.  But if you would like to see it from me:

my God, WHERE do you READ this CRAP at??????????????????????????????????

WHERE did I say ONE FREAKING thing you insinuated?????????????????????

Can you no longer just debate what is CLEARLY before you, or are you compelled to INVENT things to argue because it is "easier" to debate words you put on others' mouths?

That is simply LAZY and INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST!

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.11  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.9    2 years ago

Open minds allow insights to enter. Narrow minds are 'closed.'

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.12  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.10    2 years ago

You would. I am not surprised. Right down the 'right.'

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.11    2 years ago
Open minds allow insights to enter.

Do open minds think that blacks should only vote Democrats into office?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @3.2.11    2 years ago

You make that clear with many of your posts.  Carry on.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @3.2.12    2 years ago

Yes I would.  I see what you did there.....how clever, and not exactly true.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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3.2.16  Nowhere Man  replied to  CB @3.2.11    2 years ago
Open minds allow insights to enter. Narrow minds are 'closed.'

Except for one problem with this view...

How open is the mind judging "openness" and receptiveness to the biased insights?

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.17  CB  replied to  Nowhere Man @3.2.16    2 years ago

Nowhere Man, if I was still of a mind to date, white men would be my FIRST choice. Is that open enough for you? Or should I remind you of my past (background) in inter-relationships with white males? I can hardly hate what I have slept with and fallen in love with and who knows what the future may hold?

I love diversity. I say the more diversity the better. Be the "multifaceted diamond" sparkling instead of the monochrome version that the world can not fully support! That said, I love my black skin - and once upon a time, white males, plural, literally loved it (back) too! jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

I would ask you how many inter-relationships you have been involved in, but  NO I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET PERSONAL!  (You get my drift, now ?)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.18  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.17    2 years ago
if I was still of a mind to date, white men would be my FIRST choice. Is that open enough for you? Or should I remind you of my past (background) in inter-relationships with white males?

Sounds strangely akin to someone claiming they can't be racist because they have black friends.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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3.2.19  Nowhere Man  replied to  CB @3.2.17    2 years ago
That said, I love my black skin - and once upon a time, white males, plural, literally loved it (back) too!

TMI !!!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.20  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Nowhere Man @3.2.19    2 years ago

NFS!!!

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.21  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.18    2 years ago

I can hardly hate what I have slept with and fallen in love with and who knows what the future may hold?

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.22  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.20    2 years ago
NFS

I can hardly hate what I have slept with and fallen in love with and who knows what the future may hold? I am proud of the men from my past (every last racially diversified of them). God and I have 'met' on the subject. So though I am a celibate person now, I will not deny the men who brought me joy in my younger years.

TMI (Too much information). . . I think not. Time for us to be 'real' and let all that other political shit go the way of the dodo bird. Deuces to being human and calling it live!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.23  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.22    2 years ago

Not. A. Single. Thing. In. Your. Post. Even. Remotely. Relates. To. The. Article.

Do better staying on topic.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.24  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.23    2 years ago

I cry foul! You did not criticize Just Jim NCTttH @3.2.20 for whom I am replying? Why not?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.25  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.24    2 years ago
I cry foul!

So what? YOU got the discussion derailed with having to tell everyone who you have dated--like anyone here gives a shit about it and they can see it has nothing to do with the article.

Jim is a friend of mine and through many of his on-topic posts, has EARNED a little leeway. You, on the other hand, have made it a habit to derail and deflect.

Stop whining.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.26  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.21    2 years ago
I can hardly hate what I have slept with and fallen in love with and who knows what the future may hold?

Do you find it at all odd that only you are here talking about who they sleep with? 

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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3.2.27  Nowhere Man  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.25    2 years ago
with having to tell everyone who you have dated--like anyone here gives a shit about it and they can see it has nothing to do with the article.

AMEN!!! Can't de-rail it one way de-rail it another... I wouldn't know anyone who gives a damn on who he's slept with and what the hell does that have to do with black voters leaving Biden?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.28  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Nowhere Man @3.2.27    2 years ago
what the hell does that have to do with black voters leaving Biden?

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with it, but it allows him the luxury of not having to actually talk about the topic, which seems to be rather unsettling for some of our progressive friends.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.29  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.25    2 years ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif  

Jim is a friend of mine and through many of his on-topic posts, has EARNED a little leeway.

"Jim" is a friend . . . ENTITLED TO PRIVILEGES . . . in the 'clubhouse' Jim has EARNED a charmingly amount of leeway.' CB, let's 'manage' you. Got it! jrSmiley_123_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.30  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.26    2 years ago

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CB
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3.2.31  CB  replied to  Nowhere Man @3.2.27    2 years ago

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CB
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3.2.32  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.28    2 years ago

So says some conservatives on the colorblind pretender 'squad.'  Oh yeah: jrSmiley_72_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.33  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.29    2 years ago
"Jim" is a friend . . . ENTITLED TO PRIVILEGES

Not entitled to--he EARNED it through HONEST debate and STICKING TO THE TOPIC.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.34  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.32    2 years ago
So says some conservatives on the colorblind pretender 'squad.' 

The race card you continually play is worn out.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.35  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.33    2 years ago

As I say: PRIVILEGE.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.36  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.35    2 years ago
As I say: PRIVILEGE.

funny stuff

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    2 years ago

The seeded article is about as cynical and dishonest as it gets. The writer is a conservative pundit who implies that blacks are "rejecting" Biden because he is not conservative enough. But when you look at the actual reasons for this alleged discontent from blacks toward Biden its based on him not being progressive enough In pushing police reform , voter suppression reform,  economic benefits for the black community at cetera . The objection to Biden that does exist among blacks is not one that is in agreement with conservatives.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 years ago
But when you look at the actual reasons for this alleged discontent from blacks toward Biden its based on him not being progressive enough In pushing police reform

While this may be true for some please supply the data that shows it is the reason for most of the blacks moving away from Biden.  Then you may want to see how many are moving away because they feel less safe after "defund the police" took away cops protecting their neighborhoods.

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.1  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1    2 years ago
most of the blacks moving away from Biden

'Fatal error.' This is the incredible 'talking point' style some conservatives like to project. They see a smidgen, a minuscule, a 'scent' on the breeze, a 'drop of discontent' in a sea of contentment and its off to sketching and MAGNIFYING 'dots' to see where it be blow out of all proportions.

Take this back to Trump, Mitch, Kevin, and the lot of y'all. It is an insult to think you can persuade black Americans and people of color (Americans) to sell out justice, fairness, rights, and freedoms and liberties to be CHAINED to Donald Trump's team of aspirational losers.

I would rather eat a bowl of shit, than be in a party that chases Trump's standard-less and unprincipled mind 'farts' and MOST BLACKS AGREE WITH ME.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.1.1    2 years ago

And yet, for all the bluster, more and more blacks are disagreeing with you and leaving the Democratic plantation, as the article clearly illustrates.

Looks like some have chosen the light and won't be shackled by Democratic "chains" any longer.

Are you afraid Democrats can no longer win elections if blacks don't vote as a bloc?

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.3  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.2    2 years ago

Now that's funny. ("Most." "More and More.") What next? "Many say. . . ?"

And republicans are chained to Donald Trump's next breath. And "most" would call that a bloc.

Bye Texan. It's been. . .rich spending time here.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.1.3    2 years ago
Now that's funny. ("Most." "More and More.") What next? "Many say. . . ?"

I am specifically referring to the STATS in the article. Try reading it.

And republicansarechained to Donald Trump's next breath.

Yawn. Hyperbole noted.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.1.1    2 years ago

Nice rant.  So give me the data that says most blacks agree they would eat a bowl of shit rather than be a republican.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.5    2 years ago
Nice rant. 

It was, wasn't it?

So give me the data that says most blacks agree they would eat a bowl of shit rather than be a republican.

May as well ask for the stars and moon. 

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.7  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.5    2 years ago
I would rather eat a bowl of shit, than be in a party that chases Trump's standard-less and unprincipled mind 'farts' and MOST BLACKS AGREE WITH ME.

Just take it or leave it Right Down the Center. Most blacks still vote with democrats, despite their confusion and stressing over the party's tug of war. It's because we know where our 'best hopes' for equity, equality, and yes progress lies.  (Of course, it is hyperbole. How would I know what most of any people will eat?! But you get the concept, I hope!) jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.1.7    2 years ago
Most blacks still vote with democrats, despite their confusion and stressing over the party's tug of war.

Yes most do, but that number is visibly shrinking, which the article describes in detail.

Is it scary to think that blacks will leave the Democratic Party after having been lied to for decades?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.1.7    2 years ago

Most still do but more and more seem to be moving on from the party that keeps letting them down.  Maybe you should not claim something you can't possibly know or deliver, although that is most definitely a dem trait..   

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.10  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.8    2 years ago

Please stop. Donald Trump is earth's gift to lies and you promote him and it. Just stop. It's embarrassing for some conservatives. Projection is wrong and will not work.

Yes most do.

Of course we do. There you just blew Right down the 'right''s thesis out of the water! Oh it's true. It's true.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.11  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.9    2 years ago

How is that Southern 'border' wall doing with it shiny door? Talk. About. A. Let. Down. For Trumpist.  Even (everything bigger in Texas!) Abbott can't get 'er done. Lies. Liars. Schemers.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.1.11    2 years ago

You keep shot gunning and are having trouble focusing on the actual post.  The actual post you are responding to talks about why blacks are moving away from the dem party, your response was about the southern border.  That makes actual dialog almost impossible and just a waste of time.  Have a nice day 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.1.10    2 years ago
Please stop.

I will not stop telling the truth no matter how uncomfortable it is to hear for some liberals.

Donald Trump is earth's gift to lies and you promote him and it.

So yet once again, you are reduced to braying about Trump when no one else is even talking about him. I guess that is simply the end result of having no legitimate argument to make, so one MUST deflect and project.

Just stop.

Nope. Sorry if the truth hurts. Really.

It's embarrassing for some conservatives. Projection is wrong and will not work.

I suppose it is asking far too much for anyone to feel embarrassed at having no other argument on virtually any topic EXCEPT for the infamous "BUT TRUMP!!!!!!!!!" "defense".

That should be a wake-up call for many progressive liberals. Leave your weak-ass "BUT TRUMP" crap at the door.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.1.10    2 years ago

That was not my thesis and it was a pretty poor attempt on your part to twist it that way.  I would expect no less than that though, you are just a liberal and the only way you can communicate is by twisting things to fit your narrative 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.15  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.1.11    2 years ago
How is that Southern 'border' wall doing with it shiny door? Talk. About. A. Let. Down. For Trumpist.  Even (everything bigger in Texas!) Abbott can't get 'er done. Lies. Liars. Schemers.

Do you have ANYTHING besides deflection and taking potshots at all you seem to despise?

Is the topic of the article so abhorrent to you in its simplicity and truthfulness that it renders you incapable of carrying on a sensible conversation about it?

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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4.1.16  Nowhere Man  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.14    2 years ago
you are just a liberal and the only way you can communicate is by twisting things to fit your narrative 

His standard MO...much like several of the typical liberals around here..

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.17  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.14    2 years ago
That was not my thesis and it was a pretty poor attempt on your part to twist it that way.  I would expect no less than that though, you are just a liberal and the only way you can communicate is by twisting things to fit your narrative 

Always easier for some liberals to debate what they invented you say or meant than it is to deal with the topic, obviously.

Good luck getting a straight or even a crooked 'answer" to anything you ask.

But you will be regaled with crap about Trump and the border and Abbott and Texas and conservatives and whatever shit can be gathered up and flung far and wide.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.18  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.12    2 years ago
The actual post you are responding to talks about why blacks are moving away from the dem party, your response was about the southern border. 

Classic deflection, giving credence to the idea that the poster has no legitimate argument to make regarding the topic and is merely deflecting away from it because the truth is too hard to hear about.

People with real points won't deflect like that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 years ago

Actually, the article talks about blacks leaving Biden. Does it really matter why so much if they are already gone?

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.1  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2    2 years ago

Gone? As in 'dead'? The smattering of black Americans that may be disenchanted with democratic politics (over Manchin/Sinema) does not give you license to suggest that they want to be 'second-class' republicans and some conservatives who are rudderless, unprincipled, and without decent standards. Oh yeah, be careful what you wish for-remember the narrative about 'trojan horses.'

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.1    2 years ago
Gone? As in 'dead'?

OH GOD, YES, YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT.

SMH

I don't get this new progressive liberal math where a 25% drop in support is merely a "smattering".

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.3  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.2    2 years ago

Inflation much? Spin. Repeat. Wash.  Some conservatives are opportunistic and Machiavellian so a wise person will take everything with a grain of salt coming out that camp. Like a balance sheet today's 'number' is only for today. Tomorrow is a brand new set of numbers. Who can know it?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.3    2 years ago
Inflation much?

WT actual F are you going on about NOW????????????????????????

Is it possible to ever just to address the post you respond to in an appropriate manner?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.1    2 years ago
black Americans that may be disenchanted with democratic politics (over Manchin/Sinema)

You have some data supporting that claim?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.4    2 years ago
is it possible to ever just to address the post you respond to in an appropriate manner?

Based on most posts I would say no.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.7  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.5    2 years ago

Why would you need data on this? Can't some conservatives use common-sense or is it ran 'cold'? Besides what is the point of the article if not to intone black disenchantment with their favorite party? Get a grip. Data, really?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.7    2 years ago
Data, really?

Yes, DATA.

Supplied in the article.

You can read it for yourself and argue against the stats all you want, but it won't change the facts.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.8    2 years ago
Why would you need data on this?

Probably so we don't run around like liberals with half cooked ideas and hurt feelings.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.7    2 years ago

Common sense is not proof.  Please show it is Manchin/Sinema that are making people leave the party.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.11  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.8    2 years ago

Stats as propaganda won't suffice. Dig it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.12  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.10    2 years ago

Wait. I will be right back with some 'stats' for your consumption. Right down the 'right.'  /s

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.11    2 years ago
Stats as propaganda won't suffice.

Ignoring reality (stats ARE reality) is silly at best.

That is why I personally won't be ignoring them.

Dig it!

BTW, enjoy the midterms--you only have about 9 months to gird yourself for the whopping Democratic losses, so best get your little speeches ready about the decline of America's democracy and all the other crap some liberals will be flinging at walls to see if anything will stick.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.14  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.6    2 years ago
Based on most posts I would say no.

I kind of hate to correct your post, but feel compelled in this case:

Based on virtually EVERY post I would say no.
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.12    2 years ago

Didn't think so

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.14    2 years ago

Shhh, don't tell anyone but I was being nice.  I don't like to make a liberal cry.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.17  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.15    2 years ago

/s  sarcasm tag (right there for all to see ). 24

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.18  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.17    2 years ago

Saw it, ignored it.

So you got nothing.  Good to know.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 years ago
The objection to Biden that does exist among blacks is not one that is in agreement with conservatives.

I am sure that will be of great comfort to Democrats when they lose the midterms.

I can see the headlines now:

"Democrats lose, but losses are small amongst black voters."

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
5  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

You mean this didn't work?

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @5    2 years ago
It's embarrassing for some conservatives. Projection is wrong and will not work.

Can you even IMAGINE the moral outrage coming from the woke progressive liberals had any conservative dared to utter the following:

If you have a problem figuring out whether you are for me or a liberal, then you ain't white.
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1    2 years ago

I wish Donald would do it just to see how many liberal heads he could get to explode with one tweet.  This would set a record that I don't think would ever get broken.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6  Tacos!    2 years ago
But his handlers thought he had a big mandate to be the next FDR

I suspect that people who think this way don’t bother to study how FDR actually governed. First of all, he had specific ideas ready to go, which he proposed to Congress. And then he signed about 90 new laws in the first 100 days. Not just executive orders, but actual bills passed by Congress. Most of them were relatively small, focused bits of legislation (although there were at least a dozen or so that would be considered “major”), so they didn’t get derailed under the weight of their own complexities.

These days, a president comes in with one or two vague ideas. A bunch of politicians and lobbyists attach all sorts of junk that they want, and they spend a solid year debating the intricacies of their “landmark, comprehensive, reform” legislation. If all the arguing doesn’t kill the bill before the president can sign it, the whole unconstitutional thing will die once the Supreme Court gets through with it.

 
 

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