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Ted Cruz wants to remove 'entrenched politicians,' proposes term limits for Congress | Washington Examiner

  
Via:  Jeremy in NC  •  last year  •  17 comments

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Ted Cruz wants to remove 'entrenched politicians,' proposes term limits for Congress | Washington Examiner
"Term limits are critical to fixing what's wrong with Washington, D.C.,"

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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) has introduced legislation to impose term limits on members of Congress with the hope of removing "entrenched politicians who prey upon the brokenness of Washington."

Joined by Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) in the House, Cruz's proposed constitutional amendment seeks to limit senators to two six-year terms and House members to three two-year terms.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) talks to reporters after Senate Republicans met behind closed-doors to hold their leadership elections, at the Capitol in Washington, on Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2022. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

"Term limits are critical to fixing what's wrong with Washington, D.C.," Cruz said in a statement. "The Founding Fathers envisioned a government of citizen legislators who would serve for a few years and return home, not a government run by a small group of special interests and lifelong, permanently entrenched politicians who prey upon the brokenness of Washington to govern in a manner that is totally unaccountable to the American people."

Cruz added that term limits are important to restore accountability within Congress.

"Terms limits brings about accountability that is long overdue and I urge my colleagues to advance this amendment along to the states so that it may be quickly ratified and become a constitutional amendment," Cruz added.

Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-WY) was among 11 senators who co-sponsored the bill, saying that "too often, senators and members of Congress become out of touch with the rest of the country when they find themselves in Washington for too long."

Cruz has previously introduced legislation to impose term limits in each of the three prior Congresses.


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year

Regardless of what side of the aisle you are on, Cruz it 100% correct.  Term limits are needed.

TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE OFF LIMITS

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    last year

I was undecided on this one, but I think Cruz makes a good case for term limits.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

He does have some good points on this.  We all see the problems with those who are career politicians.  Many have lost touch with what they were sent there to do and who they represent.  I don't think we'd have this many problems if term limits were in place.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1    last year
I don't think we'd have this many problems if term limits were in place.

Mark Levin kind of said something similar this past Sunday.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

“…a good case for term limits…”

Agreed.

All for a President being limited to two terms. We should put similar restrictions on those representing us in Congress. Limiting Senators to two terms, Representatives to six terms, and thus giving more influence and power to the ballot box, where it was originally intended. 

 
 
 
evilone
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3  evilone    last year

Wouldn't this mean that Cancun Ted would need to find a real job? He could just quit as an example to other law makers.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1  Ronin2  replied to  evilone @3    last year

Him quitting wouldn't do anything.

It would just open up another spot at the trough and change nothing.

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1.1  evilone  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1    last year
Him quitting wouldn't do anything.

True it wouldn't do anything other than leading by example.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  evilone @3.1.1    last year

You really think Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, and the rest would eagerly follow his example and retire as well?

Until they are forced out; or simply get bored of milking they system dry for personal gain- they aren't going anywhere.

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1.3  evilone  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.2    last year
You really think Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, and the rest would eagerly follow his example and retire as well?

No, I do not. Have they proposed term limits? Cruz has, but doesn't have the balls to action to conviction.

Until they are forced out; or simply get bored of milking they system dry for personal gain- they aren't going anywhere.

Obviously the voters in their districts are happy enough with them to keep them in office. I voted against my incumbent dickhead Senator, Ron Johnson, but enough people thought he was good enough to reelect too.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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4  SteevieGee    last year

I could support this but only if the term clock starts with when they were first elected.  None of this "we're starting now so I get 12 more years" crap.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1  Ronin2  replied to  SteevieGee @4    last year

I agree. There are far too many life long politicians that could take the 18 years the bills proposes in Congress and stretch their careers right into the grave now.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2  Ozzwald  replied to  SteevieGee @4    last year
I could support this but only if the term clock starts with when they were first elected.

Not sure the law could be retroactive. 

However there needs to be consistent across all branches of government.  Term limits for Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches, or not.  But for all branches not just 1 or the other.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.3  Hallux  replied to  SteevieGee @4    last year
only if the term clock starts with when they were first elected.

That's not going to happen. This Bill will die like a beached whale.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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5  Mark in Wyoming     last year

Some years ago , the voters of Wyoming passed term limits , it was taken to court and the states supreme court ruled that it was unconstitutional by the state constitution . but the court explained itself that if the voters wished to limit terms they had 2 options , one is to propose and pass an amendment to the state constitution , which is about as difficult to do as amending the US constitution , or to simply refuse to vote for a politician/ candidate when it came time to elect for the seat . So the voters opted for the they simply wouldnt vote for the person that already had served the number of terms they think was enough .

As it stands currently  here are the term limits i see that are voter imposed .

Governor  is 2 terms , no exceptions 

  Senators in the US senate is 6 terms , usually they retire in or before their 6th term .

 US house Of reps  3-4 terms .

Now when it comes to the limits , it is per seat , example  is Lummis served her terms in the house and stepped down , she was elected to the senate  and according to the voters she would have  the same number of terms for that seperate seat as someone who had won it and never served . so the voters look at the limits as per seat and not how long or what other seat she may have held . the choice is left to the voters .

When it comes to serving in the state house in either house it gets skewed somewhat , but i have seen more turn over there that term limits really isnt an issue , and thinking the state level offices is the usual seed bed that national politicians come from  people tend to give more leeway to number of terms , another reason is because they are staying local and for the most part are not full time politicians , they have other jobs . 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    last year

I’m not a big fan of term limits because I think there is some value in having legislators who know how to do the job. Generally, term limits just increase legislative incompetency by filling the chamber with noobs.

But I’m not totally against it if the limits aren’t too severe. Term limits tend to mimic the 22nd Amendment with a maximum of two terms. For the Senate, I think three or four terms might be reasonable. For the House, maybe five or six. Two terms in the House is not nearly enough.

Now if we could also get term limits for lobbyists . . .

 
 
 
Snuffy
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6.1  Snuffy  replied to  Tacos! @6    last year

Agreed.  Limiting to two terms can definitely impact the ability to do important things on the national and international levels due to inexperience.  If we replace have the House every two years, what experience will we have?  I can see 3 terms for Senator and 6-8 terms for the House.

 
 

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