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Biden unveils new $375 million military aid package for Ukraine | Reuters

  
Via:  Jeremy in NC  •  last year  •  62 comments

By:   Simon Cameron-Moore (Reuters)

Biden unveils new $375 million military aid package for Ukraine | Reuters
U.S. President Joe Biden announced a new $375 million package of military aid to Ukraine on Sunday and told President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that the United States was doing all it could to strengthen Ukraine's defense for the war with Russia.

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U.S. President Joe Biden announced a new $375 million package of military aid to Ukraine on Sunday and told President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that the United States was doing all it could to strengthen Ukraine's defense for the war with Russia.

Meeting with the Ukrainian leader on the sidelines of the G7 summit of world leaders in Hiroshima, Japan, Biden said the military aid package included ammunition, artillery, armored vehicles and training.

"Together with the entire G7, we have Ukraine's back and I promise we're not going anywhere," Biden told Zelenskiy.

In the meeting, Biden stressed his country's readiness to help build Ukraine's long-term capacity to defend against and deter Russian aggression, the White House said.

To that end, Biden discussed U.S. support for a joint effort with allied and partner nations to train Ukrainian pilots on fourth-generation fighter aircraft such as the F-16, it said.

Zelenskiy thanked the United States for the new package, and for the financial assistance of $37 billion to date, his office said.


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year

So we have sent somewhere in the ballpark of $75 BILLION to Ukraine and Geriatric Joe just pledged another $375 million.  All the while Democrats are crying that the debt ceiling must be lifted.

Here's a novel idea you fucking idiots.  STOP SENDING MONEY TO UKRAINE and you won't have to lift the debt ceiling.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    last year

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Ronin2
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1.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @1.1    last year

So move to fucking Ukraine already. 

They are willing to take anyone into their military.

You'll have a chance to be a real hero.

It is sickening that leftists care more about Ukraine than they do about the US.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.1    last year
It is sickening that leftists care more about Ukraine than they do about the US.

It not that they care about the Ukraine. Hillory clinton made up a big lie about Trump & Putin and they still believe it.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.3  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.1    last year

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Ed-NavDoc
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1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    last year

Or at least do a much better job of tracking and accounting to where the funding went to. No more 3 billion dollar accounting errors.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    last year

"Accounting errors".

How else are Brandon and all of the other Establishment politicians supposed to get their kickbacks from Ukraine? 

Establishment politicians want oversite in Ukraine as much as they want the war to end. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    last year

There is no getting away from it. Corruption is part of the package with Ukraine.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.1    last year

What is the policy here?

Is it to help Ukraine fight a defensive war forever and ever?

Or 

Is it to use the Ukraine to degrade the offensive capabilities of Russia?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.2.4  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    last year

With the current financial train wreck the Democrats have put us in, we don't need to be sending a damn thing to Ukraine.  

We already knew the accountability would be non-existent.  Just a cursory look at their past actions is evidence enough of that.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    last year

The policy is to waste so much money and military hardware/munitions in Ukraine that it wrecks the US economy; and leaves us incapable of fighting a real war against China when it comes over Taiwan.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.6  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.5    last year

original

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @1.2.6    last year

Can you ever stay of topic?

You must love the inflation giving billions to Ukraine is causing. Maybe a few more interest rate points from the Fed and a recession will dampen your destructive adulation of one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3  cjcold  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    last year

Start making the top 1% of billionaires in the U.S. pay their fair share of the taxes they owe and there would be plenty of money to help Ukraine in their resistance to Putin's illegal aggression.

Seems some here care more for Putin and American billionaires (Trump) than they do for democracy and the American people as a whole.

Have to wonder just how many posters/seeders here are actually Russian bots. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year
Start making the top 1% of billionaires in the U.S. pay their fair share of the taxes

And just what in the holy hell would that amount be? Define fair. We'll wait. If the answer is true to form, we will be waiting for quite some time for a cogent definition........................

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.3.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year
Start making the top 1% of billionaires in the U.S. pay their fair share of the taxes

When are the Dems going to propose their "Fair Share Tax" legislation?  What are they waiting for?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.3.1    last year
We'll wait.

Ah, the ever-elusive shrill of "FAIR SHARE" raises its ugly head, makes an appearance then is gone in a flash when NUMBERS are asked for!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.3.4  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year
Start making the top 1% of billionaires in the U.S. pay their fair share of the taxes they owe

That is the job of the IRS, isn't it---ensuring taxpayers pay and are not delinquent?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.3.5  Ronin2  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.3.2    last year

They are still trying to figure out a way for them and their mega donors to pay as little as possible; while sticking it to everyone else.

It takes time to dumb down/indoctrinate a population so that they would allow it.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.3.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.4    last year

And the IRS aka Income Removal Service is very proud of what they do!/s

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3.7  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.4    last year

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Seems fighting a proxy war with Russia should be a high priority for America. 

Seems some Americans, however, are in Putin's pocket.

 
 
 
George
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1.3.8  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.3.1    last year

Anything to keep the takers from having to pay their fair share, Vote people into office that allows you to steal from the rich is now the American way for many on the left.

 
 
 
George
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1.3.9  George  replied to  cjcold @1.3.7    last year
Seems some Americans, however, are in Putin's pocket.

We call those people democrats. that is when they aren't servicing Xi during their off time.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.3.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cjcold @1.3.7    last year
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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.3.11  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year
pay their fair share of the taxes
Have to wonder just how many posters/seeders here are actually Russian bots. 

Nice talking points.  

 
 
 
George
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1.3.12  George  replied to  cjcold @1.3.7    last year

Rachell Maddow showed where trump paid 38 million is taxes in a single year, if you haven't paid 38 million trump is paying your share.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.3.13  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.3.7    last year
Seems fighting a proxy war with Russia should be a high priority for America. 

WTF does that have to do with "fair share" crapola espoused by so many on the left?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.3.14  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.13    last year

It's just a feeble attempt to distract from the disastrous Biden Administration fuck up and has NOTHING to do with the topic of this article.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.3.15  Ronin2  replied to  cjcold @1.3.7    last year
Seems fighting a proxy war with Russia should be a high priority for America. 

Why? Go ahead an enlighten us all with your expansive knowledge of world affairs. This war is doing nothing to take away Russia's biggest threat- it's nuclear arsenal. Other than that they have been proven to be a paper tiger militarily; and no threat to Europe.

So other than draining our money and military capabilities (heavy weapons and munitions) what is this proxy war accomplishing? Besides make Xi very damn happy; and emboldening China militarily on Taiwan.

Seems some Americans have joined Brandon in Xi's pocket. Unfortunately there is no money left- Brandon's family pilfered it all already.

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    last year

original

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @2    last year

Not wanting to waste billions in Ukraine on a never ending proxy war- that is adversely affect the US economy and our military preparedness- is the same thing as supporting Russia?

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JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    last year

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    last year
is the same thing as supporting Russia?

Some always go so extreme.

If you aren't on the "I Hate Trump" bandwagon and criticize him daily, well, then, you are somehow defending Trump.

Don't want us borrowing money to give to Ukraine, well, then, you support Russia.

With logic like that, some people aren't worth the bother.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.2    last year

Bingo!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3  Sparty On    last year

Meanwhile China is licking it’s chops.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4  Nerm_L    last year

Biden has led the United States into another trillion dollar quagmire.  Biden can't afford to lose Ukraine and can't afford to defeat Russia.  So, we're stuck with another decade of 'balance of power' bullshit.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1  evilone  replied to  Nerm_L @4    last year
Biden has led the United States into another trillion dollar quagmire.

And if Biden didn't you would be bitching about another war between NATO (which we are part of) and Russia. The headline would be about US soldier body counts and not about the money spent. Of course it would still all be Biden's fault with those who still support Russia over the US and it's allies. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilone @4.1    last year

If not for Biden and his handler's candy assed weakness, I don't know that Putin would have moved on Ukraine when he did. Biden's election was a gift from the American people.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.2  evilone  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.1    last year
If not for Biden... I don't know that Putin would have moved on Ukraine when he did.

Irrelevant, since Putin did move on Ukraine.

Biden's election was a gift from the American people.

Considering that Finland is now, and soon Sweden will be, new NATO countries and that all NATO countries are now unified against Russia, you may want to rethink that sentence. The Russian economy has tanked and Putin's power base continues to erode. Yeah... a gift. Sure.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.2    last year
Irrelevant, since Putin did move on Ukraine.

It is NOT irrelevant.

Jim is merely questioning whether or not Putin would have invaded Ukraine had there been someone else in the WH.

We do know for a fact he made no moves while Trump was in office.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.4  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.3    last year
It is NOT irrelevant.

Please explain to me how something that didn't happen is relevant to what actually took place. Putin did invade. Putin and other highly placed Russians also made mention of restoring the old USSR. These are facts that are relevant to my original post. As soon as Russian troops crossed the Ukrainian boarder, what Putin might  have done differently was moot.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.4    last year
Please explain to me how something that didn't happen is relevant to what actually took place.

Gee, did you READ what he actually wrote?

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.6  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.5    last year
Gee, did you READ what he actually wrote?

I did and unless him, or you, since you are here - can explain why it applies to my original post then my point stand. Otherwise you are trolling...again.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  evilone @4.1.2    last year
Irrelevant, since Putin did move on Ukraine.

Only irrelevant to leftists that will forgive anything Brandon does.

Considering that Finland is now, and soon Sweden will be, new NATO countries and that all NATO countries are now unified against Russia, you may want to rethink that sentence. e.

Who gives a fuck about Finland or Sweden joining NATO? Are they going to dismantle Russia's nuclear arsenal?

Seriously, while all NATO countries are unified against Russia- France did an end around and allied with China. We will see what the rest of our so called NATO allies think on China soon enough. Seems Brandon doesn't inspire confidence. 

Europe must reduce its dependency on the United States and avoid getting dragged into a confrontation between China and the U.S. over Taiwan, French President Emmanuel Macron said in an interview on his plane back from a three-day state visit to China.

Speaking with POLITICO and two French journalists after spending around six hours with Chinese President Xi Jinping during his trip, Macron emphasized his pet theory of “strategic autonomy” for Europe, presumably led by France, to become a “third superpower.”

He said “the great risk” Europe faces is that it “gets caught up in crises that are not ours, which prevents it from building its strategic autonomy,” while flying from Beijing to Guangzhou, in southern China, aboard COTAM Unité, France’s Air Force One.

Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party have enthusiastically endorsed Macron’s concept of strategic autonomy and Chinese officials constantly refer to it in their dealings with European countries. Party leaders and theorists in Beijing are convinced the West is in decline and China is on the ascendant and that weakening the transatlantic relationship will help accelerate this trend.

“The paradox would be that, overcome with panic, we believe we are just America’s followers,” Macron said in the interview. “The question Europeans need to answer … is it in our interest to accelerate [a crisis] on Taiwan? No. The worse thing would be to think that we Europeans must become followers on this topic and take our cue from the U.S. agenda and a Chinese overreaction,” he said.

As for the rest.

The Russian economy has tanked and Putin's power base continues to erode. Yeah... a gift. Sure

Have you taken a look at our own economy? Have you seen the ditch Brandon and Democrats have driven this country into? Of course that is nothing to compare if Brandon decides to default on raising the debt. The House passed their bill to raise the debt. Brandon nor Schumer don't even have a bill started- much the less one that can pass the Senate.

Brandon really is a gift to our enemies. Of course with the millions they have funneled to his family- he might qualify as a very expensive one.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.6    last year

Jim's point was that we don't know if Putin would have invaded had Biden not been President. Is that really so hard to grasp?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.6    last year
Otherwise you are trolling...again.

Is that what all the cool kids are saying when they can't formulate a real argument?

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.1.10  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.8    last year

Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't make it any more relevant. If YOU think it is then explain why?

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.1.11  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.9    last year
Is that what all the cool kids are saying when they can't formulate a real argument?

No, that's what thinking people say when confronted with trolling. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.11    last year
No, that's what thinking people say when confronted with trolling. 

I love your imagination!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.10    last year

I am unable to understand it for you.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.1.14  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.12    last year
I love your imagination!

I'm glad I can brighten your day.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.1.15  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.13    last year
I am unable to understand it for you.

You haven't even demonstrated you know what the point is.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.14    last year
I'm glad I can brighten your day.

I look forward to being much amused in the future!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.17  Nerm_L  replied to  evilone @4.1    last year
And if Biden didn't you would be bitching about another war between NATO (which we are part of) and Russia. The headline would be about US soldier body counts and not about the money spent. Of course it would still all be Biden's fault with those who still support Russia over the US and it's allies. 

How do you know that?

Ukraine blames the United States for not living up to the security agreement to remove nukes from Ukraine.  (That's why the US is on the hook to provide military support to Ukraine.)  Russia blames the United States for breaking up the Soviet Union and expanding NATO into the former Soviet bloc that has destabilized the buffer between Russia and NATO.  

There's no way to end the war in Ukraine militarily.  Since Biden absolutely refused to engage in diplomacy with Russia before the invasion, Biden has trapped the United States into a balance-of-power brush war without an end game.  Biden cannot allow Ukraine to lose and Biden cannot afford to defeat Russia.  Biden has led the United States into a quagmire and now there's no way out.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.15    last year
You haven't even demonstrated you know what the point is.

That's pretty funny coming from someone who keeps asking what Jim's point was!

LOL!

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.1.19  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.18    last year
That's pretty funny coming from someone who keeps asking what Jim's point was!

There you go... I didn't ask what Jim's point was, I asked how it was relevant to my post. 

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.1.20  evilone  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.17    last year
How do you know that?

Because you are a partisan that would find fault in everything Biden does. Or are you talking about Putin stating multiple times he wants to fully restore the old USSR? How about the Russian stooge in charge of Chechnya that stated Poland is next? Or the political chaos Russia is stirring up in Balkan states?

There's no way to end the war in Ukraine militarily.

There rarely ever is a military solution for war. It's almost always decided politically. 

Since Biden absolutely refused to engage in diplomacy with Russia before the invasion...

You might not have like the diplomacy efforts, but there were exhaustive talks between the US and Russia and other allies and Russia. There are  talks going on all the time between all sorts of people both up front of the media and in back rooms we'll never know about.

Biden cannot allow Ukraine to lose and Biden cannot afford to defeat Russia.

NATO doesn't want Russia to move on NATO countries and is fighting a proxy war. You do remember the NATO countries that invoked Article 13, right? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @4.1.10    last year

can you explain how your original comment was relevant to Nerm, or does your standard only apply to others?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5  Texan1211    last year
And if Biden didn't you would be bitching about another war between NATO (which we are part of) and Russia. The headline would be about US soldier body counts and not about the money spent. Of course it would still all be Biden's fault with those who still support Russia over the US and it's allies.  If not for Biden and his handler's candy assed weakness, I don't know that Putin would have moved on Ukraine when he did. Biden's election was a gift from the American people.

There are the two posts.

I'll leave it to you to figure out.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @5    last year
And if Biden didn't you would be bitching about another war between NATO (which we are part of) and Russia. The headline would be about US soldier body counts and not about the money spent.

Isn't THAT irrelevant as Putin has invaded?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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6  Thrawn 31    last year

Good.

 
 

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