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Angela Davis 'Can't Believe' Ancestry Discovery About Mayflower Relative

  
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Angela Davis 'Can't Believe' Ancestry Discovery About Mayflower Relative
Political activist Angela Davis learns that she is descended from slave owners, Alabama politicians, slaves and Revolutionary War soldiers in Finding Your Roots.

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Feb. 22, 2023, 9:42 PM UTCBy Chrissy Callahan

Political activist Angela Davis has been a truth seeker for her entire career. In a Feb. 21 episode of "Finding Your Roots," Davis learns the truth about some of her family's lingering mysteries."

The author and symbol of the Black Power movement presents the show's host, Henry Louis Gates Jr., with two questions about her ancestry during the episode.

To start, the 79-year-old asks Gates' team to research the true identity of her maternal grandparents since her mother, Sallye Bell, grew up in a foster home and never met them.

Finding Davis' maternal grandmother proves to be a challenge, and the team was unable to learn her name. But her father's identity was traceable: Davis' mother's father was a white Alabama lawyer named John Austin Darden.

Looking at a photo of Darden, Davis says that the family resemblance is undeniable. "He has my mother's lips. It's so funny, I can see her in him," she notes.

The "Finding Your Roots" team put a photo of Bell next to Darden to underline their resemblance. Bell's biological mother was Black.

"I can't get used to the fact that this is her father. I know it, but ... it's really amazing," she says.

The "Finding Your Roots" team was unable to discern how Bell's mother met John Austin Darden, but was able to look into Darden's past. Darden was an Alabama legislator and a prominent, very wealthy member of his community.

Davis took in learning about her ancestor's identity. "I didn't think we'd ever have a name. I always imagined him as an anonymous figure," she says.

Davis also learns that she has more Alabama relatives: Historical records show that Darden was survived by four sons and two daughters.

Davis feels mixed emotions upon hearing about her mother's half siblings.

"I guess I'm both glad but I'm also really angry ... my mother may not have been the only one. She may have siblings who are half Black. So this actually opens up so many other questions," she explains.

The "Finding Your Roots" team follows the paper trail back to Davis' fourth great-grandfather, Stephen Darden, who was born in colonial Virginia and served in the Revolutionary War (and played the drums).

The news astounds Davis, as she connects her ancestor's time in the war with her own activism. "I'm going off the top of my head! You just threw information at me," she says, laughing.

She continues, "I'm remembering that so many people have called those of us who tried to fight against racism and who have visions of a more radical democracy as 'un-American.' I've always insisted that the best way to pay tribute to this country is to try to change it," she says.

Davis then grapples with learning Stephen Darden became a slave owner after moving to Georgia.

"I always imagined my ancestors as the people who were enslaved. My mind and my heart are swirling with all of these contradictory emotions," she says.

"I'm glad on the one hand that we've begun to solve this mystery. We have something that we didn't have before. But at the same time I think it makes me even more connected to struggling for a better world," she says.

Davis guesses what her mom would've made of this: "It's good to know my genetic background. it's good to know my ancestry. But those are not necessarily my people. My people are those who fought for me, who supported me."

Later in the episode, Davis learns the identity of her paternal grandfather. Gates explains that her father, Benjamin Frank Davis, grew up in a small town in Alabama with his mother Mollie Spencer.

Spencer was once married to a man named Edward Davis — but Edward Davis was not Frank Davis' father.

The couple separated long before Frank Davis and many of his siblings were born. Frank Davis' sister told Davis stories of his white father.

Turns out Mollie Spencer lived near a white man named Murphy Jones. With the help of DNA evidence, the "Finding Your Roots" team discovers that Murphy Jones was, in fact, Frank Davis's biological father.

At the time of their relationship, interracial sex was illegal across the South. Spencer and Jones seemed to have had as many as four kids together. Jones even sold Spencer 200 acres of land at one point, suggesting they may have been close.

Davis then learns that Spencer's father, Davis' great-grandfather, Isom Spencer, was an enslaved person. Davis gets emotional over the discovery.

"I assume that my ancestors lived on plantations as slaves. But of course I didn't now who they were. I didn't know who the slave owners were. I just feel so sad that these are my people who had to live under those conditions. It makes me realize what a miracle it is that we're here now," she says.

At the end of the Civil War, Isom Spencer was freed, but his former owner retained some of his nephews as slaves. Isom Spencer decided to fight back and took the matter to court.

"This, I am so happy to see," Davis says.

Isom Spencer won the battle eventually. His nephews were freed and turned over to their family.

When Gates asks her if she feels a connection to her ancestors in this moment, Davis says "absolutely."

"I'm happy to find that there's a motif of resistance (in my family tree) because that is what I feel like I've been trying to do since I was a teenager," she says.

At the end of the episode, Davis also learns she's descended from William Brewster, one of the 101 people who came to the colonies aboard the Mayflower.

"No. I can't believe this. No, my ancestors did not come here on the Mayflower," Davis says, laughing.

Davis, who fought against structural racism in the U.S., says she "never" expected to learn that she was descended from one of the nation's white settlers. "That's a little too much to deal with right now," she says.


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
Davis, who fought against structural racism in the U.S., says she "never" expected to learn that she was descended from one of the nation's white settlers. "That's a little too much to deal with right now," she says.

This is why it is important to do research before opening making claims.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    last year

Explain in your own words what that means. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    last year

You can't put it together by reading the article?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.1    last year

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Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

Pretty funny. She'll have to pay reparations to herself. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

LMAO.  I didn't think of that!  Although I don't think she would qualify to be in the receiving line.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3  Texan1211    last year

Davis was a Communist-loving radical.

A Marxist.

A domestic terrorist.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @3    last year

And now the descendent of the very people she demonized - a slave owner.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    last year

If your great great grandfather turned out to be a serial killer, would that disqualify you from speaking out against serial killers?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.2  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    last year

Since we aren't talking about serial killers...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    last year

Its a simple question. 

You seem to be so sure that Angela Davis being of mixed race means she is a hypocrite. That is nonsense. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    last year

Must. Deflect. Now.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.4    last year

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Texan1211
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3.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    last year

Sorry, but I have seen deflection before and you are definitely engaging in it!

 
 
 
George
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3.1.7  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    last year

So are you saying Angela Davis isn’t responsible for what her slave owning ancestors did?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3.1.7    last year

No individual is responsible for what their slave owning ancestors did. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    last year

Do you mean no financial responsibilities?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    last year

That is a compelling argument against reparations.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.11  George  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.10    last year

Problem solved.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.13  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    last year

I'm sure she did absolutely zero research on her own family history as evidenced by the article and video.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.14  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    last year

So all that renaming and removal of statues is because.....

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  George @3.1.11    last year
Problem solved.

If only it was that easy!

LOL

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.16  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.10    last year

That does not follow. In Ms. Davis' case, this news can be taken into consideration as a mitigating circumstance. I am pretty sure even she will agree with that position.

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GregTx
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3.1.17  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    last year

Baby steps... Don't hurt yourself. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.16    last year

perhaps if you read the comment I responded to it may bring clarity.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.19  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.18    last year
3.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    4 hours ago

That is a compelling argument against reparations.

Reparations are not asked to be paid for by the relatives of slaves, directly. Conservatives are dodging the point, probably on purpose. That can be determined after this comment! The point is: the United States government had oversight along with states' legislative oversights of systematic slavery in our country. Reparations has never been about individuals paying for the harm done to minorities (including the Japanese families interned in concentration camps or Indians forced on reservations) as such (individual) cases would involve civil litigation-only.

Angela Davis may can receive reparations for her African slave predecessors unfair, unreasonable, and unjust treatment as appropriately determined by whatever committee authority properly assigns blame.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.19    last year

where exactly do you think the government would get money to pay reparations 

?

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.21  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.20    last year

Where do you think (exactly)? Where did our government in the past get authorization to forcible and mercilessly abuse people of civil rights? I will take a strike at it: From the people who make up the country today. After all, the government of the past redistributed funds and opportunity (like candy) to a white majority when it ignorantly determined that whites only rights mattered. . . . And minorities were just. . . here to be exploited. Besides, reparations were paid to the Japanese, that came from the government coffers. This set of reparations should come from the same source, and the harm done lasted a heck of a lot longer.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.21    last year

I can tell that my response to the other poster is confusing you.

He said that people today aren't responsible for actions some of their relatives took decades ago.

that seems like a great argument against any reparations and I agree.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.23  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.22    last year

Of course you agree (though that is not not what JR meant and you know it isn't, but you couldn't resist reframing the narrative and running with it).

Continuing on with a relevant statement to your 'concern' about where reparation funding can come from; fund one or several less foreign 'good-will' project across the globe for fun, frolic, and profit. Take care of this glaring ERROR on the part of the United States at home which can not be made to go away and will be like an anchor being dragged around that time won't erase and history can't change. . . at least until it is dealt with properly.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @3.1.21    last year
Where did our government in the past get authorization to forcible and mercilessly abuse people of civil rights? I will take a strike at it: From the people who make up the country today.

Why do you think that the people of today authorized Jim Crow, real estate covenants and segregation prior to the 60's?  Aren't those voters mostly dead?

Besides, reparations were paid to the Japanese, that came from the government coffers. This set of reparations should come from the same source, and the harm done lasted a heck of a lot longer.

Out government no longer has coffers, it only has the ability to borrow increasingly large sums of money and then pay interest on that debt.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @3.1.23    last year
about where reparation funding can come from; fund one or several less foreign 'good-will' project across the globe for fun, frolic, and profit. 

About how much do you think a fair, national reparations effort would cost and which foreign 'good-will' projects equal that amount?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.23    last year

oh no, every time a conservative has even suggested cutting foreign funding, they are bombarded with the "we are a global community" hogwash and told they are prejudiced against whoever we would cut funding to .

Some people need to move on, lead productive lives and stop thinking they are perpetual victims.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.27  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.23    last year

please explain exactly what JR meant by this:

No individual is responsible for what their slave owning ancestors did. 
 
 
 
CB
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3.1.28  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.26    last year

Well, you know, Texan, maybe it would help the country and the world if CONSERVATIVE stop with the stupid culture wars that keeps turning citizens into victims of proliferating culture wars that are a hallmark of how conservatives get thing 'done.' Stop. Making. Victims. Out. Of. Us. All. In. This. Country. And. The. World. Over.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.29  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @3.1.28    last year
Stop. Making. Victims. Out. Of. Us. All. In. This. Country. And. The. World. Over.

What. Does. This. Mean. In. This. Country. And. The World. Over?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.28    last year

If you are a victim of something call a cop.

stop blaming conservatives for all that is wrong in your world.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @3.1.28    last year

How do you imagine conservatives are to blame for culture wars?  It’s their fault for  noticing  when the left tries to change the culture?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.32  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    last year

It is a totally inane question that simply does not rate a answer.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.33  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.24    last year

Some people conveniently forget that reparations paid to Japanese internees were paid to people that were still alive at the time of payment. Somehow I seriously doubt that any people that were slaves are still alive today

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.34  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.31    last year

Wow. It will take too long to catch you up. Where have you been through all the many discussions taking place on NT?

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.35  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.27    last year

Ask JR to explain EXACTLY what he means. It may take a while since JR is probably "done here." (He does not wait around for the "credits" to roll!)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.36  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.35    last year

See, I understood what he wrote so no need to ask him. You started to "'splain" what he meant so logically I asked you.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.37  CB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.33    last year

Nobody said it had to be a perfect comparison or consideration. And yes, there are. . .differences between Japanese thrown out of and therefore losing their homes such as Africans in America being considered other people's property and not being allowed as a race to buy/own property for their own prosperity.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.38  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @3.1.34    last year
p. Where have you been through all the many discussions taking place on NT?

Oh. So you think when 20% of the population says, "hey let's reverse our customs since our founding and let men compete in women's sports and men use women's bathrooms, conservatives are engaging in a culture war for noticing that progressives are tryiing to change our culture. They should just sit quietly and let 20% of the population dictate their desires to the rest of us.   

Do you think the Ukrainians started the war because  they didn't just sit back and let Russia do what it wanted? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.39  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.1.34    last year

did you know your heroine bought guns and let others use them to commit crimes?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.40  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.38    last year

Don't you know by now that it is only some conservatives waging a culture war and that liberals would never, ever do that?

 /s

 
 
 
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3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3    last year
Davis was a Communist-loving radical.

A Marxist.

A domestic terrorist.

And in the end a professor teaching our children.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.1  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    last year

You highly probably think that about every liberal who has a different worldview than conservatives.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.2.1    last year

those are actual facts about Angela Davis.

it would not make sense to believe that about others who have never been a Communist, a Marxist, or a domestic terrorist.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4  Texan1211    last year

Why would anyone give a fuck about her?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5  Drinker of the Wry    last year

Love that show, one of the few on PBS that I really enjoy and Gates is a perfect host.

The genomes isn’t surprising, I think that American Blacks average about 25% European genomes.  America is truly a melting pot, if not culturally anymore, biologically it is with greater mixing on going.

I saw Angela Davis speak on campus about fifty years ago.  She had a bodyguard team escort her on stage.  They wore Black Panther like uniforms and marched in a semi-military set of dance moves.

 
 
 
CB
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6  CB    last year

I am pleased that Ms. Davis can reorganize her thinking around her true family history. What there is for 'others' to gloat about. . . remains to be discovered.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @6    last year

I sure wish she would have paid for her crime.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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7  Ed-NavDoc    last year

Somehow the word Ironic is a huge understatement here.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8  Sparty On    last year

This is just proof of what we already knew.

Africans sold their own into slavery.

Period.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1  CB  replied to  Sparty On @8    last year

And well so it is the United States that had a constitution (lauded even today) about life, liberty, and justice for all. Of course, at the time, it would have made more sense to add to the concept: Life, liberty, and justice for all for white men exclusively. Sigh! But it did not state that. So excuse others living in this country for constantly-even today-asking conservatives to live up to its high ideal.

The slaves in constitutional U.S.A. should have been immediately given their freedoms, rights, and privileges under federal and state laws. Alas, that is NOT what happened! We have the records to prove it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @8.1    last year

no one is arguing slavery didn't happen.

But it did end over 150 years ago.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.2  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.1    last year

And yet conservatives today continue a legacy of not setting the record on reparations for slavery (and the accompanying setbacks which span those 150 years in the U.S. straight. Even worse, from the conservative point of view - our country could re-institute slavery as early as 'tomorrow.' It is implied through 99.99 percent of conservative statements that minorities should be beset upon at points of inclusion, diversity, and equity (equality) and given the back of conservatives' hands for their demands of the aforementioned!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  CB @8.1.2    last year
And yet conservativestodaycontinue a legacy of not setting the record on reparations for slavery (and the accompanying setbacks which span those 150 years in the U.S. straight.

Please do enlighten me on what liberals today have done regarding a legacy of not setting the record on reparations for slavery.

Even worse, from the conservative point of view - our country couldre-instituteslavery as early as 'tomorrow.' It is implied through 99.99 percent of conservative statements that minorities should be beset upon at points of inclusion, diversity, and equity (equality) and given the back of conservatives' hands for their demands of the aforementioned!

That is so much bullshit.

That is the product of an over-imaginative mind.

It isn't based on facts or reality.

Reinstate slavery?!?!?!?!?! WTF?

Perhaps you have never heard of a little old thing called the Supreme Court, or laws?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.3    last year

Professional victim and propagandist at work.

Nothing more ....

 
 
 
Snuffy
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8.1.5  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.3    last year
Reinstate slavery?!?!?!?!?! WTF? Perhaps you have never heard of a little old thing called the Supreme Court, or laws?

Looks like someone also forgot all about the 13th Amendment to the US Constitution.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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8.1.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.3    last year

Just another example of using a extra wide brush to try to paint all conservatives at once as guilty. Pathetic!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.1.6    last year
extra wide brush to paint all conservatives...

He prefers using cans of spray paint.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.8  CB  replied to  Snuffy @8.1.5    last year

As I stated with a stroke of the pen. . . you can setback anything - including the Constitution. After-all, people are 'rumbling' about changing the 2nd amendment. . .if/when they get enough support to do so. Moreover, just like Lincoln started the process of getting an amendment to the Constitution to end slavery by issuing an executive order at the federal level which laid the groundwork for a future constitutional amendment-a president can issue an executive order setting the groundwork to reverse certain federal provisions and protections related to certain groups which can lead to congress (of course, it would take a hefty number of republicans to accomplish it) following after!

"The stroke of a pen."

Don't believe me, look to DeSantis in the (authoritarian-led) state of Florida. Given an inch and a pretext of protecting childre, the state is in the process of repressing and exploiting LGBTQ folks back into the closet!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.4    last year

I did notice he was incapable of describing the actions liberals have taken that he expects from conservatives.

Seems hypocritical to me............

 
 
 
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8.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  CB @8.1.8    last year
After-all, people are 'rumbling' about changing the 2nd amendment. . .if/when they get enough support to do so.

Do you understand the process for amending the US Constitution?

You act as if it is something accomplished easily.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.9    last year

SOSDD considering ....

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.12  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.10    last year

You did not ask me if it was EASY (or not) to change the constitution. It is not easy. However, conservatives have not let ease, hardness, harshness, or shame stop them from exploiting minorities when an opportunity presents itself!

And it all takes place in steps, beginning with 'a stroke of the pen' in the hands of (republican) leadership.

BTW, I note you don't flat out deny its possible or probable.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  CB @8.1.12    last year

Sometimes you really crack me up with this perpetual victim nonsense.

And I know exactly what I wrote, what questions I have asked you, and how many answers I have gotten.

 
 
 
CB
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9  CB    last year

It happened in the past with a stroke of the pen/s; it can happen again with a stroke of a pen/s.  It's evidenced by so many conservative states wanting to FORGET the past victimization of minorities (in order to repeat it again!) The "conservative" Supreme Court you mean? The one that is turning rule of law unnecessary back over to states in order to make state rights supreme?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @9    last year
It happened in the past with a stroke of the pen/s; it can happen again with a stroke of a pen/s. 

Okay, I'll go along with the fantasy and pretend that we don't live in a nation of laws and courts.

It's evidenced by so manyconservative stateswanting to FORGET the past (in order to repeat it again!)

Sorry I can't go that deep into the fantasy.  That is a ridiculous notion.

The "conservative" Supreme Court you mean? The one that is turning rule of law unnecessary back over to states in order to make state rightssupreme?

Conservative? Does that mean you are upset with their decisions based on legal principles?

The bold part---what are you trying to communicate?

 
 

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