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Biden Lies Several Times While 'Celebrating' a 'Crisis Averted' Situation In Debt Ceiling Deal

  
Via:  Jeremy in NC  •  10 months ago  •  42 comments

By:   Sarah Arnold (townhall. com)

Biden Lies Several Times While 'Celebrating' a 'Crisis Averted' Situation In Debt Ceiling Deal
 

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Late Friday night, President Joe Biden sat in the Oval Office to "celebrate" the bipartisan debt ceiling deal between him and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif) that eliminates the potential for an unprecedented government default that he said would have been "catastrophic" for the U.S. and global economies.

However, Biden's "crisis-averted" speech revealed lies he has been telling Americans throughout his presidency.

The president promised Americans that no one making less than $400,000 a year would pay a "penny more in federal taxes."

But that's a lie. Biden already has raised the tax burden on Americans who make as little as $20,000 a year.

He also claimed that he cut the deficit by $1.7 trillion in his first two years as president. However, according to Moody's Analytics, "the actions of the [Biden] administration and Congress have undoubtedly resulted in HIGHER deficits — not smaller ones."

Biden continued to gaslight Americans, saying that he needs to control spending by raising revenue to reduce the deficit. Which, in reality, means massive tax hikes on Americans.

To control spending, the Biden Administration needs to stop sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Ukraine in order to fight a "war" with Russia.

He also touted his effort of warding- off higher spending cuts pushed by Republicans that Biden said would have rolled back his agenda.

Additionally, as he called for the need to reduce spending, Biden seemed to forget that he was the one who increased the national debt by over $30 trillion for the first time in U.S. history.

He also said he has thought about raising taxes on the wealthy—something Republicans have opposed—but admitted it wouldn't get done during this term.

The 99-page bill was agreed upon with just two days to spare until the Treasury Department warned the U.S. wouldn't be able to meet its obligations and default on the country's debt.


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    10 months ago

Well, it's not like Biden has been honest, ever.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    10 months ago

That aside, it is getting to the point that Joe Biden seems to be residing more and more in his own separate reality and cannot differentiate truth from lies other than what his handlers tell him

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1    10 months ago

And the lemmings are actually believing what he's saying.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    10 months ago

I would ask where the fact checkers are but we know they are all waiting for the next thing out of Donald's mouth, even if it is just a cough.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago

Biden constantly coughs and wipes his nose with his hands and then his unsanitary hands shake other people's hands (yuck!) but if Trump coughed, it would be endless media calls for 25A.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1    10 months ago

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    10 months ago

But but but desantis!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.3  Jasper2529  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.2    10 months ago

Typical.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    10 months ago

Do you consider it wrong (as in right vs. wrong) for Biden to materially lie to the planet as PotUS?

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.1  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3    10 months ago

Do you consider it wrong (as in right vs. wrong) for the POTUS to materially lie to Americans?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.1    10 months ago

You asked a slight variant of my question rather than answer my question.

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.1.3  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.1    10 months ago

Okay... and your reply is?....

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.1.3    10 months ago

You offer nothing but a near parroting of my question and now want me to answer my own question??     Some lame game you are playing?

The obvious answer is YES it was wrong.

Now, what is your answer?

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.1.5  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    10 months ago

Sorry Tig, yeah my answer would be yes....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @3    10 months ago

Seems to me that Biden is repeatedly doing both, as in both the planet and the American people. 

Might be off topic, but a comparison between Joe Biden and Ronald Reagan is that Biden is showing sign of dementia towards the end of his first term and having much of it covered up while Reagan's showed at the end of his second term and was largely covered up by Nancy Reagan and the White House staff.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2    10 months ago

To me it is obvious that Biden is too old to be PotUS.   This is a job for a younger person (around 45 to 65 years old).   So there is that.

As for his lying, this is not a function of age or dementia IMO but rather Biden's career long tendency to stretch the truth into a lie.   To wit, I would expect narratives like his recent speech to come from the mouth of a 60 year old Biden too.

But I suspect you will agree with me that those upset with Biden's lies should be even more upset by the outrageous and damaging lies of his predecessor.  Seems many R partisans cannot even recognize their own hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.2  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.1    10 months ago
But I suspect you will agree with me that those upset with Biden's lies should be even more upset by the outrageous and damaging lies of his predecessor.  Seems many R partisans cannot even recognize their own hypocrisy.

Neither can you. Trump's lies more outrageous than Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine's? Your TDS is showing.

Also, referring to Brandon's constant lies about everything and anything as "but rather Biden's career long tendency to stretch the truth into a lie.   To wit, I would expect narratives like his recent speech to come from the mouth of a 60 year old Biden too."

"Stretch the truth into a lie"? WTF do you work for the media or something? It is that very type of wording the media uses to explain away Brandon's lies as being inconsequential. He doesn't have any concept of what the truth is. He isn't stretching it- he is lying from the get go. It is absolutely intentional.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.2    10 months ago

Another emotional rant.   Yeah, Ronin, Trump's lies are demonstrably worse than any PotUS in our history.   Never has a PotUS claimed that the USA electoral system is rigged, worked up tens of millions of voters into thinking they were disenfranchised and deemed their successor illegitimate.   And we can watch Trump do this on video:

And that is the tip of the iceberg.

It is that very type of wording the media uses to explain away Brandon's lies as being inconsequential.

More emotional nonsense.   You object to me stating that Biden style is to stretch the truth into a lie.   You did see the word "lie" in my statement, right?

Get a grip.   Your emotional rants are foolish.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.4  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.3    10 months ago
Never has a PotUS claimed that the USA electoral system is rigged, worked up tens of millions of voters into thinking they were disenfranchised and deemed their successor illegitimate. 

Maybe not a president, but a presidential loser has, with essentially the same results.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.2.4    10 months ago
Maybe not a president, ...

So why deflect to Hillary?   She was never PotUS, she never acted with the authority and influence of a sitting PotUS at the end of term one.   And her comments were brief and limited whereas Trump has been going on for years now.   Why not just deal with the point I made?

It probably does not escape the attention of readers that Trump supporters (i.e. those who would at least vote for Trump if nominated) routinely deflect and do not stand up and deal with direct questions about Trump.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.6  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.5    10 months ago
She was never PotUS

Good catch..that's why I said "a presidential loser"

Hillary had just as much, if not more, influence over the years than Trump had. Leftists jumped to her every move and attacked everyone that spoke negatively, true or not, about her.

By her saying Trump was an illegitimate president is akin to saying the election was rigged.

Her supporters went on a crazed rampage for years.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.2.6    10 months ago

As usual your reply ignores the point I made and then just continues to deflect.

It probably does not escape the attention of readers that Trump supporters (i.e. those who would at least vote for Trump if nominated) routinely deflect and do not stand up and deal with direct questions about Trump.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.8  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.7    10 months ago

No TiG, I responded directly to what you posted.

It probably does not escape the attention of readers that, just because you call someone out correctly for not citing that others have done what they accuse one person of doing do not stand up and deal directly with the fact that someone with more influence at the time did the exact same thing with similar results.

It also means, that by doing so, that they are not supporting Trump they way you desperately need to accuse others of.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.2.8    10 months ago

Nothing but bullshit from you bugsy.   It is always the same game ... run from direct challenges with deflection and blatantly dishonest meta.

You cannot name a PotUS who has come even remotely close to the harmful lies Trump emitted as sitting PotUS where —and this is just the tip of the iceberg— he claimed that the USA electoral system is rigged, worked up tens of millions of voters into thinking they were disenfranchised, and deemed his successor illegitimate. 

There is no denying this so your choices are to acknowledge it, deflect or lie.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.10  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.5    10 months ago
So why deflect to Hillary?   

Why did you deflect to Trump?  Neither are the topic of this and you've spammed that same off topic comment over several other articles.  Let get it back on topic.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.11  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.10    10 months ago

Since I created the major thread 3, here is the topical post for this thread:

TiG @3 ☞ Do you consider it wrong (as in right vs. wrong) for Biden to materially lie to the planet as PotUS?

And Greg offered this @3.1:

Greg @3.1 ☞ Do you consider it wrong (as in right vs. wrong) for the POTUS to materially lie to Americans?

Do you have an opinion on Greg's question?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.3    10 months ago

I must have missed it.  Where in the article was Trump mentioned?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.12    10 months ago

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Right Down the Center
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3.2.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.13    10 months ago

A few are beginning with but but but DeSantis.  That will increase if and when he starts polling closer to Trump.  I hope there is enough room for the both of them to live inside their heads.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.14    10 months ago

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Texan1211
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3.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.12    10 months ago
Where in the article was Trump mentioned?

Be very careful there!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.17  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.14    10 months ago

In my opinion, the only way the liberal left will give up fixating on Trump is if DeSantis wins both the nominations and the election. If that happens, the left will be too busy harping on DeSantis to bother with Trump. It is the nature of the beast that is our electoral system.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4  Hallux    10 months ago

"Biden seemed to forget that he was the one who increased the national debt by over $30 trillion for the first time in U.S. history."

Now there's a deceptive piece of writing, but then the entire piece is.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.1  Thomas  replied to  Hallux @4    10 months ago

It reads to me as factually inaccurate. If the word "to" replaced "by" then it would be correct 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Thomas @4.1    10 months ago

Only to hard core leftist liberal Democrats.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.1    10 months ago

What, specifically, is inaccurate in Thomas' post?    He is stating that the national debt under Biden is over $30 trillion dollars.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.2    10 months ago

Actually, the national debt under Biden currently tops over $31 trillion dollars.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.3    10 months ago

Yes it is.

Is that the inaccuracy in Thomas' post that you referred to?    After all 31 is over 30 so Thomas was not incorrect.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.5  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Thomas @4.1    10 months ago
It reads to me as factually inaccurate

Are you going to back up your claim [deleted]

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.1.6  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.5    10 months ago

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"Biden seemed to forget that he was the one who increased the national debt by over $30 trillion for the first time in U.S. history."

This sentence as written says that Biden is responsible for an additional $30 Trillion. Therefore, this sentence is incorrect.  As noted in my post, if the word "by" is replaced with "to", then the sentence would be accurate. 

I don't know what to say other than pay attention to what the words are that you are reading. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5  Nerm_L    10 months ago

What crisis?  Since last November the press has been reporting that Republicans would demand spending cuts in exchange for raising the debt limit.  Biden deliberately chose to sit on his hands for six months.  Biden adopted a highly visible 'no compromise' stance on the debt limit.  Biden even threatened vetoes several months ago.  (Isn't that how Biden led the country into the Ukrainian quagmire?)

The crisis for Biden (and Democrats, apparently) was being forced to negotiate.  Even after being forced to negotiate it was necessary to exclude Congressional Democrats to reach an agreement.  Democrats were at a natural disadvantage to address the debt limit because the issue couldn't be resolved by throwing more public money.  In fact, Democrats throwing public money at every issue is why the debt limit is a problem.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Nerm_L @5    10 months ago

Having to negotiate on the debt ceiling was sheer anathema to the Democrats because they were placed into the position of having to negotiate a situation the were largely responsible for creating in the first place. Karma's a bummer!

 
 

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