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Arrests of people on FBI terror watch list crossing border illegally hits 100-year high

  
Via:  GregTx  •  last year  •  35 comments


Arrests of people on FBI terror watch list crossing border illegally hits 100-year high
Border Patrol caught more than 172 known or suspected terrorists illegally entering the United States from Mexico or Canada over the past 12 months, finishing out the government's fiscal year with the highest number in national history, according to new data released Saturday.

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Border Patrol caught more than 172 known or suspected terrorists illegally entering the United States from Mexico or Canada over the past 12 months, finishing out the government's fiscal year with the highest number in national history, according to new data released Saturday.

The figure is a far cry from single-digit terror watch list numbers seen throughout the Trump administration. The dramatic increase to double and now triple-digits over the past several years has especially drawn concern from Democratic and Republican lawmakers as violence grows in the Middle East.

Of roughly 2,037,000 arrests at the southern border between October 2022 and September 2023, federal law enforcement agents determined 172 were on the Federal Bureau of Investigation terror watch list, also known as the Terrorist Screening Database. The database is separate from the No-Fly list and it contains thousands of names of individuals who are themselves involved with a terrorist group or are related to or associated with someone involved in terrorism.

The 172 figure surpassed the previous record of 98 people in 2022 and 16 people in 2021, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data. The Border Patrol was established in 1924 and this year's arrests surpassed all others on record.

Of all arrests, 169 occurred at the southern border compared to three on the U.S.-Canada border.


Apprehensions have topped 6,700 in less than 1 year—surpassing 11 prior years combined. The dedicated vigilance of our #BorderPatrol Agents to address the volume of cross-border traffic & protect our border, the nation, & fellow citizens is inspiring & praiseworthy. #HonorFirstpic.twitter.com/Esud62uOS6
— Chief Patrol Agent Robert Garcia (@USBPChiefSWB) September 25, 2023

Just 0.008% of the more than 2 million arrested illegal immigrants this year were determined to be a match with the terror watch list, which immigrant advocates in the past have pointed to as being an overblown issue.

While more people on the terror watch list were actually encountered at land, air, and sea ports of entry, typically attempting to fly into the country or drive across through a customs checkpoint, it is the individuals who crossed illegally and attempted to evade police who concern experts the most.

At ports of entry along the northern border, such as where vehicles go through inspection checkpoints and airports, authorities encountered 484 people on the terror watch list. At crossings along the southern border, customs officers encountered 80 individuals.

The situation at the southern border has overwhelmed the 19,000-person Border Patrol. Over the past two years, many illegal immigrants have been observed on camera and other technology entering the country, only to get away due to a shortage of agents to pursue all sightings because of how Mexican smuggling organizations, known as cartels, use people and drugs to divert agents.

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Members of Congress told the Washington Examiner that more needs to be done to secure the U.S. border after seeing how militants from a foreign terrorist organization broke across the Israel-Gaza border and committed mass atrocities.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) said the threat was serious, particularly given that 1.5 million people have been observed illegally entering the country since President Joe Biden took office in January 2021, but law enforcement was unable to apprehend them. Illegal immigrants who are not arrested cannot be checked against U.S. criminal or terror records.

"It only took 19 al Qaeda operatives to kill nearly 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11, 2001," Cotton, who is the ranking member for the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Criminal Justice and Counterterrorism, said. "Many, many times that number of known terrorists have surely crossed our southern border since Joe Biden took office. His open border is the gravest terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland."

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX) expressed a strong desire to prevent terrorists from entering the U.S., particularly by way of the southern border and said as the ranking member on the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security, Congress increased CBP's budget by 15% over the past two years.

"Border security is national security. The horrific attacks in Israel reaffirm the need to secure our border and prevent terrorists from entering our country," Cuellar said. "I will continue to push for solutions that our men and women on the front line need, such as more border technology and personnel at ports of entry and in between ports."

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However, concern remains over the Border Patrol's ability to screen even those encountered.

The Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General found in a report released this summer that Border Patrol agents in Arizona arrested then released into the country an illegal immigrant on the FBI's terror watch list, which set off a weeks-long effort by federal agencies to locate and re-arrest the individual.

One Border Patrol agent interviewed by the inspector general staff explained that agents were under pressure from management to process immigrants in custody expeditiously, which led to the security failure.

Up until early 2021, when Biden took office, CBP published press releases on its website when its Border Patrol agents apprehended a terror watch list individual. That practice and transparency have ceased over the past two years. CBP has not disclosed what prompted it to stop disclosing these types of arrests.

FBI Director Christopher Wray testified before the Senate in August 2022 that although there was no "imminent threat from a foreign terrorist organization on the border at the moment," terrorists were looking for any vulnerability to "exploit."

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GregTx
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1  seeder  GregTx    last year
The 172 figure surpassed the previous record of 98 people in 2022 and 16 people in 2021, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data. The Border Patrol was established in 1924 and this year's arrests surpassed all others on record.
Of all arrests, 169 occurred at the southern border compared to three on the U.S.-Canada border.
 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.1  Jasper2529  replied to  GregTx @1    last year

Good article, Greg. I'd like to add the CBP captured known terrorists stats for two more fiscal years:

FY19 ... 3

FY20 ... 3

Biden and Mayorkas own most of FY21 (16) and all of FY22 (98), and FY23 (172).

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.1    last year
Biden and Mayorkas own most of FY21 (16) and all of FY22 (98), and FY23 (172).

So...  Biden is doing a much better job than Trump at catching these people based on their arrest record.  Only catching 3 per year isn't what I'd call good at all.  It's only 3 more than doing absolutely nothing at all.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.1    last year

Biden has been inept regarding the border.

I guess pretending that there was no crisis for so long wasn't good strategy.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.1.3  Jasper2529  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.1    last year
So...  Biden is doing a much better job than Trump at catching these people based on their arrest record.

Catch and release into the USA with a court appearance date in 5 years is what Biden is doing, my friend. He's not deporting or imprisoning them.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1.4  SteevieGee  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.1.3    last year
Catch and release into the USA with a court appearance date in 5 years is what Biden is doing, my friend. He's not deporting or imprisoning them.

That is for people who cross the border and turn themselves into authorities.  I doubt that those on the terror watch list are turning themselves in because they are remanded into custody.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.5  seeder  GregTx  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.4    last year
 I doubt that those on the terror watch list are turning themselves in because they are remanded into custody.

Exactly...

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.4    last year
That is for people who cross the border and turn themselves into authorities. 

Oh, puh-leeeze. What about Biden's millions of got-aways? They don't enter at ports of entry and turn themselves over to authorities.

You know, the illegal men, women and children who've been forced into sex slavery?

What about the illegal minors who are forced to work in meat factories and other places during the graveyard shifts by the cartels all over the USA?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1.7  SteevieGee  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.1.6    last year

Those people have been coming here for at least 50 years.  The article is about those on the terror watch list.   Trump managed to arrest 3 though.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.4    last year

No, they are part of the astronomical amount of got-aways under the Biden open border policy.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.1.9  Jasper2529  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.7    last year
The article is about those on the terror watch list.

Yes, I know. Do you not think that the cartels are also not terrorists? How do you think those they enslave feel? They are terrorized by the cartels, SteevieGee.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1.10  SteevieGee  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.1.9    last year

If the US govt. thinks "the cartels" are terrorists they will be on the watch list.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year

And before somebody starts.  This is in no way is this an example of the Biden administration doing a "good job".  It's actually the opposite.  It is the incompetence of the Biden Administration that has allowed this to happen.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    last year

You know someone will anyways.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    last year

and   Jeremy Retired in NC 2

It didn't take long. See comment 1.1.1

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    last year

And there it is in post 1.1 1

Surprise!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    last year
It's actually the opposite.

I think you need to support that claim. Catching bad guys is not an unreasonable metric for the success of law enforcement.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    last year

Support his claim?

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GregTx
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2.2.2  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    last year

Catching more bad guys is also not an unreasonable metric that there are more bad guys than previously....

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    last year

The Democrats favorite word would be 'unprecedented'.

It's important to note that the number of legal immigrants to the US is about the same as the number of illegal immigrants.  Uncontrolled illegal immigration defeats the security measures put in place for legal immigration.

Illegal immigration is competing for resources needed for legal immigration.  That's why illegal immigration is a bigger problem than is being reported.  As Democrats would say it, the scope of the problem is unprecedented.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    last year
Arrests Of People On FBI Terror Watch List Crossing Border Illegally Hits 100-Year High
Ok, well the headline is a little bullshitty. The FBI hasn’t had a terror watch list for 100 years. That agency did establish a list in 1995 -
Violent Gang and Terrorist Organizations File –The Violent Gang and Terrorist Organizations File (VGTOF) was established in October 1995 as a component of the National Crime Information Center to give all police agencies access to useful information on a growing crime problem that jeopardizes the safety of police officers and citizens in an increasing number of communities.
So, at most, the list could be 28 years old. But since multiple organizations kept different lists before 9/11, they were consolidated in 2003 by the Homeland Security Act. Since then, the list is kept and monitored by the Terrorist Screening Center, so the list referenced in this dramatic headline likely is only 20 years old.

So . . . “100-Year High” sounds made-up.
And then of course, there is always the question of whether increased arrests is a sign of more crime or better enforcement. That doesn’t appear to be covered here.
 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @4    last year
And then of course, there is always the question of whether increased arrests is a sign of more crime or better enforcement. That doesn’t appear to be covered here.

Okay, fair enough. Do you think the record number of increased apprehensions of illegal immigrants is a sign of more illegal immigration or better enforcement?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @4.1    last year
Do you think the record number of increased apprehensions of illegal immigrants is a sign of more illegal immigration or better enforcement?

I don’t think we can tell from this story. The one measure, by itself, can be interpreted either way. That’s the problem.

On a given day, for example, one agent may be able to apprehend 10 people, with only 1 on the watchlist. The next day he apprehends 2 on the watchlist. Is that because the percentage of terrorists increased? Or is it because he apprehended 20 people?

And we still have no idea if the flow of people increased on that day, so we can’t assess his ability to protect the border in even a general way, nevermind a specific concern for terrorism.

One of the big problems with coverage of this issue - be it in the news media or from politicians - is that there are so many ways to measure the problem, but none of those is a complete measure. So, we get cherry picked statistics (when they aren’t being warped) that support someone’s political agenda.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1.2  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.1    last year

Ahhh I see, tell you what,why don't you compare this..

Of roughly 2,037,000 arrests at the southern border between October 2022 and September 2023,

To other years and see if you can come up with an opinion as to whether there might be a problem along the southern border. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @4.1.2    last year

It’s not my job to do research and formulate an argument to convince me to agree with you. That’s your job. If you have a position on the issue, and want to support it with evidence and a persuasive argument, then by all means, go for it.

Either way, all you’re suggesting is that we focus on a different, narrow metric to reach a conclusion. That doesn’t address the core problem I described above.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1.4  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.3    last year

Okay Tacos.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.2  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @4    last year

Pretty sure that the 100 year high was referring to the 100 year history of the CBP.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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4.2.1  Jasper2529  replied to  GregTx @4.2    last year

Also, since its creation in the late 19th century, the FBI has had many alphabet names for their departments of what we call "terrorism" today. Even Wiki gives a fairly decent history.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @4.2    last year

Whatever it might be, you’d think a journalist would make some effort to explain a headline statistic. The way this story is written, it’s just as reasonable to suspect someone just pulled it out of their ass.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.2.3  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.2    last year

No doubt....

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.2    last year

I would say the most likely answer is the latter.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  Vic Eldred    last year

Biden shatters records for worst border with 3.2 million illegal immigrants, 169 terrorism suspects.

Biden shatters records for worst border with 3.2 million illegal immigrants, 169 terrorism suspects - Washington Times

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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5.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    last year

The terrorism watchlist total is actually 172 when we include our northern border.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  Vic Eldred    last year

Border security according to Biden:

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7  Greg Jones    last year

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