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Officially or not, Kamala Harris is the 2024 Democratic nominee - Washington Examiner

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  10 months ago  •  182 comments

By:   Zachary Faria (Washington Examiner - Political News and Conservative Analysis About Congress the President and the Federal Government)

Officially or not, Kamala Harris is the 2024 Democratic nominee - Washington Examiner
Whether President Joe Biden drops out tomorrow or resigns in March 2025, Kamala Harris is the Democratic heir.

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ByZachary Faria February 14, 2024 11:50 am

Vice President Kamala Harrissays that she is "ready to serve." Whether she officially tops the ticket or not, Harris is the 2024 Democratic presidential nominee, and she knows it just as everyone else does.

It was always a popular (and sound) theory to think that President Joe Biden would not finish a second term. He took office older than when Ronald Reagan, the previous oldest president, left office while allegedly dealing with Alzheimer's disease. It would take a near miracle for Biden to get through eight years of one of the most demanding jobs on the planet in order to leave office on Inauguration Day in 2029 at the age of 86 and not a day sooner.

That was further cemented in the past week. Special counsel Robert Hur found that Biden did mishandle classified documents, but that no jury would convict him of the crime because he would be seen as an "elderly man with a poor memory" who could not have the "mental state of willfulness" to commit a felony. According to Hur, Biden could not remember what years he was vice president or what year, within several years, his son Beau Biden died.

To try and dispute this, Biden went out into a press conference where he rambled his way into forgetting where he received the rosary he has worn since his son died and that Egypt is not Mexico. This followed a week of Biden recalling recent conversations he had with long-dead foreign leaders. Biden's memory is shot. He hides from the press and the public because his memory is gone. He likely won't make it through the first year of his second term if he is reelected.


Biden tells crowd he recently met with Mitterrand, former French president who died in 1996.
"Right after I was elected I went to a G7 meeting. I sat down and said, 'America is back!' and Mitterand from Germany — I mean France, looked at me and said, 'how long you back for?'" pic.twitter.com/X7hJH8SHk9

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) February 6, 2024

Harris is the real Democratic nominee. That is true whether Biden holds out through the election and steps down shortly into his second term, and it will be true if Biden suddenly drops out before the election at any point. Harris is the token black woman that Biden and Democrats promoted for no other reason than to check those boxes, and she can't be replaced on the ticket or tossed aside at the convention. Whether Biden drops out tomorrow or resigns in March 2025, Kamala Harris is the Democratic heir.

The 2024 campaign should be just as much about her as it is about Biden because Harris will become president at some point should Biden win reelection. She may have originally been a token appointee, but joining Biden has always been about her own presidential ambitions. If Republicans lose in 2024, those ambitions will be realized.


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    10 months ago

This should strike fear in even Democrat circles..................

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    10 months ago
This should strike fear in even Democrat circles..................

Why? Right wing hysteria about Kamala Harris is a sham.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    10 months ago

All this fear that we're feeling, and our heads exploding/imploding and what not, with all these alleged bombshells, whatever will we do?????????

 
 
 
Gazoo
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1.1.3  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    10 months ago

She is as incompetent, if not more, than biden, and she can’t blame that on dementia.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.4  CB  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.3    10 months ago

Hyper-partisan bull strikes again! I could say more about it, but there is just no substance to the comment that warrants it.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.5  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    9 months ago

Bullshit! Why lie about her? She's great!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  cjcold @1.1.5    9 months ago

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A. Macarthur
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1.2  A. Macarthur  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    10 months ago

At last we have the real reason behind the "Biden's age" bullshit! It's the race and gender of the "heart beat away".

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  A. Macarthur @1.2    10 months ago

You have a vivid imagination.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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1.2.3  A. Macarthur  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    9 months ago
That is a sophomoric comment that completely ignores Harris' "abilities".

The issue was not with regard to Harris's abilities, it was about the agenda of those trying to make Biden's age an issue when their true concerns are about the possibility of a black woman POTUS.

Your comment just echoes a deflection intentionally made to avoid the real issue.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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1.2.4  A. Macarthur  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.2    9 months ago

And ad hominem comments along with pronouncements make an actual dialogue impossible. I made a specific allegation which was not specifically addressed, but, we have had an opinion about my imagination. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  A. Macarthur @1.2.3    9 months ago

She is totally unqualified to be the leader of the free world.

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.6  CB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.5    9 months ago

Substantiate your comment, please.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.7  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    9 months ago

Check out her record. She'll make a GREAT president!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @1.2.7    9 months ago
Check out her record.

I did.  It was a blank piece of paper

She'll make a GREAT president!

Agree.  I hear the Cackle Club of America and the Association of Word Salads are both looking for a president.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.10  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.8    9 months ago

"Check out her record."

Yep, she sure did a great bang up job as border czar and help curb illegal immigration.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    9 months ago

Kamala Harris as a presidential nominee?

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charger 383
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2  charger 383    10 months ago

The cackling Witch of the West to follow Mr. Magoo. 

 
 
 
George
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3  George    10 months ago

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George
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3.1  George  replied to  George @3    10 months ago

Sorry, didn’t see the red box rules

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  George @3.1    10 months ago

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JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    10 months ago

Conservatives and right wing fanatics make a big deal out of Kamala Harris allegedly being a token choice. No matter that Mike Pence was a token choice. And there have been other vice presidential candidates and vice presidents that have been token choices. But Harris is a black woman and that raises the level of "concern." for some of the more, confused, let's say, people in our political commentary.

I don't know whether Kamala Harris would make a good president or not. But I don't see anything that indicates that she definitely won't be a good president. What is this so-called evidence other than the product of a smear campaign against this woman?

She was elected the Attorney General of California, the largest state in the country, twice. She was elected United States Senator from California. And she served pretty effectively on some televised committee hearings where she grilled various witnesses. I don't know of any reason why she wouldn't be as good of a president as any number of other people would be including Nikki Haley. Mike Pence. Ron DeSantis. and Vivek Ramaswamy and any other Republican candidate this year Including the moron in chief.

Having said all that. no one knows whether or not Biden will make it through four more years. There are many examples of people who are in otherwise good health that live into their upper 80s or more.

The right wing and conservatives are trying to smear Biden and Harris It's not surprising at all. But it is something that the rest of us need to confront.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @4    10 months ago

I am going to CONFRONT MAGAs about this very issue. Right here and right now. This type of shit really rubs me the wrong way. 

For the knuckleheads trying to demonize this otherwise charming V.P. whose sound is her own and speech pattern is her own. . . try it all you wish. Ms. Harris is going to withstand the bull coming from MAGAs and if it is destined for her be the president of the United States one day. . .she won't and should not give a shit what MAGAs think or say when she does!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  CB @4.2    10 months ago
For the knuckleheads trying to demonize this otherwise charming V.P. 

Charming- since when is cackling considered charming?

 try it all you wish. Ms. Harris is going to withstand the bull coming from MAGAs and if it is destined for her be the president of the United States one day. . .she won't and should not give a shit what MAGAs think or say when she does!

She is the f'ing border Czar in case you forgot. It is hard to tell which is more incompetent, worse liar, or just plain violating our border and immigration laws. You don't like that we call her out for the border? Tough shit. She took the job and has done nothing but ignore it and fail. She is more hidden than Brandon; it is only when desperation sets in that they call her out. Like now attacking the Hur report.

Name one thing that the she has done well as VP- just one.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.2  CB  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.1    10 months ago

Let me get to straight to the point. I don't have to name a damn thing for you. You are the big shit critic of V. P. Harris you name something she has not done well. And for shits and giggles, she is not the be-all on the border. . . she is an OFFICER of the President. . . if he is unsatisfied with her border duties and responsibilities he can replace her and seek satisfaction in someone else. As for MAGAs, well they don't give a shit about the border as the MAGAs just called other congressional MAGAs and told them to shit-can legislation that would have at the least provided "baby steps" (incremental legislation) to fix problems there. . . .

Now tell me what other demerit you think you got that we should look into against V. P. Harris.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.1    10 months ago
Name one thing that the she has done well as VP- just one.

She is unbeatable at making a word salad.

That is about it unless cackling becomes a sport.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.2.2    10 months ago
you name something she has not done well.

Easier to list the things she has done well.  Here is the complete list:

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.5  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.4    10 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.1    9 months ago
Name one thing that the she has done well as VP- just one.

She hasn't proven herself quite as clueless as Traitor Joe.  Although she is getting there.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.3    9 months ago

No matter what is listed would just be denied, deflected, and/or ignored and is a waste of effort so why even bother? 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.3  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @4    10 months ago

But Harris is a black woman and that raises the level of "concern."”

That comment right there takes clueless to a new level.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @4.3    10 months ago

ok, clue us in

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.3.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.1    10 months ago

Google some of her speeches, better yet, watch them on youtube. She is an absolute embarrassment to the US.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @4.3.2    10 months ago
Google some...speeches, better yet, watch them on youtube. ... an absolute embarrassment to the US.

The ironic comedy you are providing us with is rich.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.3.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.3    10 months ago

Here’s a memorable quote on the significance of time:

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.3.5  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.3    10 months ago

Don’t expect others to carry you. Besides, if i put up youtube videos you’d just ignore them. And there is no doubt you’ve seen some of the moments i’m talking about but can’t acknowledge them because that would toss your precious race card in the trash. Race or gender has nothing to do with it, to suggest it does is fucking moronic. she is a complete embarrassment.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @4.3.5    10 months ago
Race or gender has nothing to do with it, to suggest it does is fucking moronic. she is a complete embarrassment.

The laugh is that Trump and his speeches have been embarrassing the shit out of this country for the past 8 1/2 years, at a minimum. It takes a special sort of denial to not have that fact leap to the front of your mind. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.3.7  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.6    10 months ago

I agree trump needs to shut up sometimes but you can’t deny trump ran this country much better than the current clowns in the white house.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.3.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.6    10 months ago
The laugh is that Trump and his speeches have been embarrassing the shit out of this country for the past 8 1/2 years, at a minimum.

You got that right, Trump, Pence, Biden, Harris, all embarrassing.  I still can’t wrap my mind around these choices by voters.

 
 
 
CB
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4.3.9  CB  replied to  Gazoo @4.3.7    10 months ago

Haley says Trump gave the country 50 miles of new border wall in four years, against his promise to build MAGAs a fully operational new border wall from one side to the other of the country with a shiny new door' . . .  he proved to be not up to the task/inept. Now, that same incompetent old boob is claiming to build more (50 miles or so) new border wall if he gets the chance to represent the greatest country in the history of the world. But, we know that's a lie, because he can't tell the truth or truthfully testify to much of anything.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.1    10 months ago

Race is irrelevant as to who the vast majority of people would like to see as VP.  Or are you saying the over 60% of people that don't think very much of her are all racists?

The more the race card is played the less credible it becomes.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.3.4    10 months ago

It will go down in history as one of the classics.  Classic what I have no idea.

 
 
 
CB
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4.3.14  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.3.11    10 months ago

Nobody buys the bull. When race is relevant we will discuss it as we see fit and we won't let you dictate any terms of its usage.

 
 
 
George
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4.3.17  George  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.15    10 months ago

You have to question their intelligence, Saying you are voting for Biden because you don't like trump is the same as saying you are going to eat a piece of shit because you don't like the taste of Broccoli. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.3.18  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @4.3.17    10 months ago

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Right Down the Center
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4.3.19  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.3.14    10 months ago
we will discuss it as we see fit and we won't let you dictate any terms of its usage.

Fair enough.  And we will continue to see it as an irrelevant race card and will not let you dictate otherwise.

 
 
 
George
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4.3.20  George  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.16    10 months ago
it has nothing to do with race or gender.

Harris is trying to redefine the "peter principle" She has no principles so she sucked peter, (or Willies if you will) to rise to her level of incompetence. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.3.22  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @4.3.20    10 months ago

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CB
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4.3.23  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.3.19    10 months ago

You will try and ultimately fail.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.3.23    10 months ago

Playing the race card every day is already a losing strategy.  Some just don't realize it is time for another dog whistle.

 
 
 
CB
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4.3.26  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.3.24    10 months ago

I wouldn't worry about it if I were you; I'm just keeping them honest. And I will - like it or lump it. MAGAs can have private pretenses that make y'all feel better being who/what y'all are-but, it won't give you license to tell others what/when they can talk about it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.28  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.3.26    10 months ago

Worry about it?  I really don't think so. I don't think anyone is telling you what you can talk about,  only that they don't buy into race card or Maga card. But by all means keep playing them, it is amusing. 

 
 
 
CB
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4.3.29  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.3.28    10 months ago

Your amusement is your personal concern; what I 'talk' about is my concern. As for as what you, personally or "MAGAs-buy," I don't have an interest in. And I will state my 'case' as it pleases me. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.30  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @4.3.29    10 months ago
And I will state my 'case' as it pleases me. 

I would hope so.  I will do the same and we will both be pleased.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.3.31  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.3    9 months ago

The liberal left trying to convince the thinking American public that Harris is a superb VP is much funnier.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.32  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.12    9 months ago
The standard "But Trump" deflection duly noted

That's one of the indicators that they know they can't back up a single claim.  That and personal attacks.

 
 
 
George
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5  George    10 months ago

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5.2  CB  replied to  George @5    10 months ago

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George
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5.2.1  George  replied to  CB @5.2    10 months ago

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CB
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6  CB    10 months ago

No shame I see - just a gross largesse of imagination, misinformation, disinformation, name-calling, coarseness, mockings, and MAGA savaging of the 'Other.' Okay, got it. For the record, V. P. Harris will need to continue following the direction of the president and not give a damn about what MAGAs think one way or another about her). 

 
 
 
CB
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7  CB    10 months ago
Whether she officially tops the ticket or not, Harris is the 2024 Democratic presidential nominee.

And that is a damn lie. Vice-Presidents always have the potential to be president in the event of the president's illness or demise or removal or commission of a crime under the constitution. However, the pitiful RIGHT trying to turn her into a political BOOGEYWOMAN will fail.

If anything is destined to happen to President Biden (may it not occur) even right now that causes him to be unfit to serve. . . V. P. Harris would take the office by default. It is constitutional law.

So the "boogeywoman" V. P. - FEARMONGERING is bogus bull. I call it out right here and damn it right now.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @7    10 months ago
Vice-Presidents always have the potential to be president in the event of the president's illness or demise or removal or commission of a crime under the constitution.

Do you think it is possible that the dems know that and are confident that Biden will not finish another term?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8  TᵢG    10 months ago

The idea of a president Harris does not please me — not at all.

But there is no comparing a president Harris to another run of Trump.   Trump is an order of magnitude worse.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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8.2  Snuffy  replied to  TᵢG @8    10 months ago

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JohnRussell
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8.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @8.2    10 months ago

How in the world can anyone remove Harris from Trump in a 2024 context? 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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8.2.2  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.1    10 months ago

How in the world can you defend a deflection to Trump in a seed that is about Biden/Harris? From your statement, you are almost implying that Harris is Trump's VP pick.  In the context of this seed, Trump doesn't have anything to do with Harris or Biden except he will probably be the Republican nominee.  But keep trying..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @8.2.2    10 months ago

The complaints about Harris are in the context of the 2024 election. An election, which, of course, includes Trump. And his vice presidential candidates. Trump could drop dead in the next four years just as easily as Biden could. He could go out of his mind in the next four years just as easily as Biden could. So that's the context. The vice- presidential candidates in the 2024 election. 

 Got it?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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8.2.5  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.4    10 months ago

In your opinion, but in mine the complaints about Harris are stand-alone about Harris only. She has done nothing to deserve a second bite of the apple. The seed was about Harris only. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @8.2.2    10 months ago

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JohnRussell
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8.3  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @8    10 months ago

These are the top five names that are considered to be the serious potential Trump vp choices. 

Kristi Noem

JD Vance

Tim Scott

Elise Stefanik

Nikki Haley

No one can tell me that any of these five would definitively make a better president than Harris.  She is being smeared. 

 
 
 
George
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8.3.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3    10 months ago

All of these potential candidates are factors greater than Cackles the clown. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  George @8.3.1    10 months ago

in your dreams

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  George @8.3.1    10 months ago

two of the five have said they would have gone along with Trumps Jan 6 plan to overthrow the government . the other three say they would endorse him for president even if he is convicted of a felony.

 
 
 
evilone
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8.3.5  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @8.3.4    10 months ago
Nikki Haley would run rings  around Harris.

Haley probably would, AND she beats Biden by double digits in polling, but the current party base will never allow it. 

 
 
 
CB
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8.3.7  CB  replied to  evilone @8.3.5    10 months ago

MAGAs don't know what the shit they are talking about. . . evidenced by the fact that they keep defending bull on a daily basis. Take what they say with the proverbial grain of salt.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.3.9  JohnRussell  replied to  evilone @8.3.5    10 months ago

I would have to see some sort of evidence, not MAGA bs, showing that Kamala Harris is incapable. I don't think such evidence exists. If it does, then let's see it. Just putting up memes of her with various comical slogans doesn't mean jack shit.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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8.3.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.9    10 months ago

What grade do you give the border czar?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.3.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @8.3.10    10 months ago

compared to what ?

 
 
 
George
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8.3.12  George  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.11    10 months ago

Let’s start at something she has a slight chance of beating. How does she compare to a brain dead invertebrate?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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8.3.13  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3    10 months ago

Only in your very narrow, very tainted, opinion.

So much for leftists support of Haley- seems the only thing they want her for is to break Trump supporters; and hopefully make them stay home.

That and the fact she has pivoted to the Establishment side so they know the last 7 plus years of "get Trump at all costs" legal or not BS will be swept under the rug and forgotten.

Not that the Democrats won't attack her viciously if by some miracle she gets elected president.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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8.3.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.11    10 months ago

You don't need someone to compare her to.  How is she doing as a border czar??  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.3.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @8.3.13    10 months ago

Haley is much preferable to Trump, and she was preferable to any of the other GOP candidates with the possible exception of Christie. 

Having said that, I dont consider her to be a moderate, she is a hard core conservative who has pledged to support Trump if he is the nominee.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.3.16  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.9    10 months ago

They have absolutely nothing to base it on.  It's bullshit.  It's ridiculous.  Nonsense.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.3.17  Tessylo  replied to  George @8.3.12    10 months ago

You mean the former 'president'?

 
 
 
Gazoo
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8.3.18  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.15    10 months ago

Here’s another view, haley is a war hawk that will send other people’s kids to die. Both her and christie are establishment politicians, the type of politicians that have run this country into the ground. Both are the type of politicians that made it possible for trump to become president.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.3.19  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gazoo @8.3.18    10 months ago
Here’s another view, haley is a war hawk

Haley’s husband is deployed to the Horn of Africa.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
8.3.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3    10 months ago
She is being smeared. 

Exactly, the good news is that her 'approval' rating is 37.5%, up from her low of 35.9% last Nov.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
8.3.21  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.9    10 months ago
I would have to see some sort of evidence, not MAGA bs, showing that Kamala Harris is incapable.

I didn't say she was incapable. I said Haley would beat her. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
8.3.24  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3    9 months ago

If Harris and Biden are being smeared, they are doing it to themselves. They do not need any help from the right.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3.25  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3    9 months ago

They all bow to the former 'president' and kiss his ass.  Don't trust any of them.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3.26  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.3    9 months ago

Exactly John, they're traitors, just like the former 'president'

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.4  CB  replied to  TᵢG @8    10 months ago

MAGAs know this. It is just a 'talking point' that risen to the top of the stack and MAGAs must pull it out and start a whisper campaign about it. Never mind that this is the highest ranking female public figure in the country (females: girls and women, you should be proud); MAGAs don't like her for that reason alone. Notice that beyond the name calling and mocking of a woman that they list nothing SUBSTANTIAL  or of merit as a reason to demean her?

They've got nothing. She has given them nothing to bitch about, and so they manufacture "bitchiness" because it is what MAGAs' astro-turfers are about and all they have left!

Remember, how fast those wicked 'dogs' turned on another female with power to speak to voters: Taylor Swift, a successful businesswoman and Travis Kelce, a successful businessman 'dogged' because of a fear that Taylor, a female, would speak up for Biden—her voice, which is her prerogative to use and do with as she sees fit and the pretentious "freedom of speech" lovers tried to paralyze her into silence with their bull 'power' . . . 

. . .I would have told them to pound sand after they kiss it and suck it.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.5  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @8    10 months ago

4 more years of this shit?

Not just no; but fuck no.

Hopefully the majority of voters will remember what Brandon, Harris, and Democrats have put this country through. 

They are going to fix any problems; they are the problems.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.5.1  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @8.5    10 months ago
4 more years of this shit?

Nominate Haley.   She will win.

Nominate Trump, he might lose.  Worse, much worse, if he wins.

Nominate Haley.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.5.2  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @8.5.1    9 months ago
Nominate Haley.

Unless the Democrats railroad Trump right into prison Haley will not be the nominee. I plan to be abroad the second that happens as this country will completely go to shit.

Nominate Trump, he might lose.

Which means 4 more years of Democrats wrecking this country as fast as they can.

Worse, much worse, if he wins.

In your opinion only. After the shit Democrats have put this country through- they need to be held fully and totally accountable. No more two tier justice system. No more FBI/CIA/DOJ/IRS being arms of the Democrat party. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.5.3  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @8.5.2    9 months ago
In your opinion only. 

Trump is a demonstrable traitor.   He is a vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   An individual who could very well be a convicted felon by inauguration day.   It is a profound failure of reason for the GOP to even consider such a scoundrel, much less flock to him.

This vindictive, cash-challenged, morally bankrupt individual with the powers of the presidency would be terrible for the nation.

No more two tier justice system. No more FBI/CIA/DOJ/IRS being arms of the Democrat party. 

Conspiracy theory.   The two tier justice system is justice for the wealthy/powerful vs. justice for the average person.   

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.5.4  CB  replied to  Ronin2 @8.5.2    9 months ago

Wow. The misinformation/disinformation 'train' just pulled into NT 'station.'  What malarkey.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.5.5  CB  replied to  TᵢG @8.5.3    9 months ago

It is astounding to me -though, I have been through this before-with (MAGAs) conservatives in my youth. Such people are hard-cases. They do not listen, do not share with others who do not share their perspectives, are disagreeable, refuse to accept compromise - in a majority sense. Maybe as an individual, but never as a group.

I saw this during the 60's and 70's and was glad to see it incrementally changing in the 80-early 2000s. But now they are vocal, loud, and regressive once again.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.6  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  TᵢG @8    10 months ago

Opinions vary and differ apparently, depends on who you ask, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
8.7  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @8    9 months ago

“Voting for Trump is playing Russian roulette with the country. Voting for Biden is outright national suicide.”

Bob Barr

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
9  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    10 months ago

Who approved the memes against the RBR??

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
9.1  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9    10 months ago

Sorry, went rogue, didn’t read the red box rules

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
10  evilone    10 months ago

EDIT:

Why not Obama? Or Pelosi? Maybe Soros? I'm sure you guys can figure a better boogieman than Harris.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
10.1  George  replied to  evilone @10    10 months ago

None of those are a dropped pudding cup from the presidency, Kamala had an original thought once, it died of loneliness.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
10.1.1  CB  replied to  George @10.1    10 months ago

Jokes that die of loneliness and a lack of gravitas. Sorry, I would say more but the emptiness and lack of substance in the mocking did not lend itself to much more commentary.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
10.2  CB  replied to  evilone @10    10 months ago

It is what MAGAs are known for: Accessing the competition and who is the biggest threat to their bull agenda and to a 'man' viciously attack him or her. I would advice EVERBODY if you don't want to be a part of the demonizing that comes out of the political RIGHT (which is wrong 99.9 percent of the time), then give considerable POSITIVE WEIGHT to any candidate for office that MAGAs put 'horns' on top of their heads! That should teach lying deceivers a 'hard' lesson about trying to bull the masses!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
11  George    10 months ago

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[Red Box] [said no memes]

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
11.1  evilone  replied to  George @11    10 months ago

There's that misogynistic bullshit we always predict to see when Harris comes up.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
11.1.1  George  replied to  evilone @11.1    10 months ago

Sigh, the truth is painful. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  George @11.1.1    10 months ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  George @11.1.1    10 months ago

It is pathetic.   It implies that the only way a woman can get ahead is by giving sexual favors.

I do NOT like Harris as a politician, but it is the sign of uber partisanship (and misogyny) to claim that a woman who has earned a bachelor of arts degree in economics and political science, a JD degree, passed the CA state bar, was elected as the DA of San Francisco, was elected twice as the CA AG, was elected as the Senator of CA, and was picked as the VP merely "slept her way to the top".

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
11.1.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.3    10 months ago

maybe she had bunk beds..?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.3    10 months ago

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Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
11.1.6  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.5    10 months ago

i have that thought with every passing mirror

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
11.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.3    10 months ago

Exactly, Willie Brown, 21 years older was only a good mentor.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.1.7    10 months ago

Pathetic.   You extrapolate from an intimate relationship at the beginning of her career that all of her accomplishments were due to sexual favors.

Well done, Drinker, an impressive display of objective reasoning.   196

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.3    10 months ago
It implies that the only way a woman can get ahead is by giving sexual favors.

no it doesn't.  Just because Harris did doesn't mean that. 

 was picked as the VP merely "slept her way to the top".

She obviously did. She would never be where she is without being the mistress of one of the most powerful politicians in California. Pretending  otherwise because it makes you feel better just makes you look naive at best. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.3    10 months ago

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Their go to.  Their 'argument'.  Their 'debate'.

Pathetic and deplorable.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.8    10 months ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.9    10 months ago
Just because Harris did doesn't mean that. 

Bullshit.   You have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that her educational success and her long career was simply a function of performing sex acts.    The only thing you have is her relationship with Brown at the beginning of her career.

She obviously did.

And another individual putting forth a pathetic display of misogyny.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.9    10 months ago

 

Did Kamala Harris Have an Extramarital Affair with Willie Brown That Boosted Her Career?

Harris long ago distanced herself from the relationship.

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Image Via Gage Skidmore / Flickr

Claim:

Vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris had an extramarital affair with former San Francisco Mayor and State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, who gave her two political appointments that launched her political career.

Rating:

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Mixture

About this rating What's True

Harris did date former San Francisco Mayor and State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown for a period of time between 1994 to 1995. In his capacity as speaker, Brown appointed her to two political posts — first to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, and then to the Medical Assistance Commission.

What's False

Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade. Harris' first, successful run for office in 2003 happened well after the relationship ended, and Harris sought to distance herself from Brown.

On Aug. 11, 2020, Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, selected U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., as his running mate. Harris, who is the daughter of Jamaican and Indian immigrants, made history as the   first   woman of color nominated as vice president on a major party ticket.

Predictably, the internet lit up with rumors about Harris, who has been married to her husband, attorney Douglas Emhoff, since 2014. Snopes readers asked about articles and memes circulating on social media stating that years prior, Harris had an "extramarital" affair with former San Francisco Mayor and California Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, with   some   claiming that Harris' political success was achieved by being Brown's so-called mistress.

A tawdry headline from   Teaparty.org story   read, "Flashback: Kamala Harris Launched Her Political Career In Bedroom As Mistress Of Married Mayor Willie Brown."

These narratives are misleading by way of exaggeration. Harris dated Brown in the mid-1990s, but Brown had been   estranged   from his wife since 1981. Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly, but that was years before Harris won her first election in 2003. She was already working as an assistant district attorney in Alameda County when she took on the appointments.

It's never been a secret Harris dated Brown in the mid-1990s, although it may not be well known outside political circles in California. Brown addressed their past relationship in a   terse piece   published by the San Francisco Chronicle on Jan. 26, 2019, a   day before   Harris officially launched her presidential campaign:

Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago. Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker. And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco. I have also helped the careers of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Gavin Newsom, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and a host of other politicians.

The history of the relationship and political appointments Brown gave Harris have also been reported in California-based news outlets for years. Los Angeles Magazine   reported   in 2019:

Willie Brown was a fixture in California politics for years, serving as speaker of the state assembly for 15 years, and known as something of an unofficial deal-maker and influencer. He first met Harris in 1994, when she was an assistant district attorney in Alameda County. He was 60 years old at the time, and had been estranged from his wife, Blanche Brown, since 1981.

In his capacity as speaker, Brown appointed Harris to two political positions. The first was a six-month appointment to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board; the second was a role on the Medical Assistance Commission, a body tasked with negotiating contracts to control Medi-Cal costs. At the time, Brown had a reputation for filling many openings with his personal associates and inner circle; when Harris vacated the Appeals Board gig, he replaced her with his longtime buddy Philip S. Ryan.

Harris ended the relationship–which was conducted in the open and frequently reported on at the time–in late 1995, shortly before Brown was sworn in for his first of two terms as mayor of San Francisco.

Harris didn't run for political office until well after her relationship with Brown ended. In 2003, she made a successful bid for the office of San Francisco district attorney, a position she held until she was elected to serve as the attorney general of California, taking office in 2011. She held that post until she was elected in 2016 to serve in the United States Senate representing the state of California.

Harris has been beset by allegations that Brown influenced her career for years. At the time of her first run for office for San Francisco district attorney, SF Weekly   quoted   Harris distancing herself from Brown:

I refuse to design my campaign around criticizing Willie Brown for the sake of appearing to be independent when I have no doubt that I am independent of him — and that he would probably right now express some fright about the fact that he cannot control me. His career is over; I will be alive and kicking for the next 40 years. I do not owe him a thing.

In regards to the political appointments, Harris went on to   state :

These jobs were created before I was born. Whether you agree or disagree with the system, I did the work. I worked hard to keep St. Luke's Hospital [in San Francisco's Mission neighborhood] open. I brought a level of life knowledge and common sense to the jobs. I mean, if you were asked to be on a board that regulated medical care, would you say no

It's true that Harris dated Brown between 1994 and 1995. During that time, when he was serving as speaker of the California assembly, Brown gave Harris two political appointments. Although it's true that Brown was married at that time, the relationship was no secret, since Brown had long been separated from his wife. All of Harris' electoral victories occurred years after her relationship with Brown ended. We rate this claim "Mixture," because while there are elements of objective fact — Brown and Harris dated, Brown appointed Harris to two posts — other elements are sensationalized and misleading.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.13    10 months ago

Although it's true that Brown was married at that time, the relationship was no secret, since Brown had long been separated from his wife. All of Harris' electoral victories occurred years after her relationship with Brown ended. We rate this claim "Mixture," because while there are elements of objective fact — Brown and Harris dated, Brown appointed Harris to two posts — other elements are sensationalized and misleading.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.13    10 months ago

The hypocrisy and the fact that they hold the former 'president' to no fucking standards WHATSOEVER is . . . I no longer have the words. . . .

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.16  CB  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.3    10 months ago

Thank you for mentioning her merits (of which those are few). MAGAs like to pretend MERIT is the thing. . .until it gets crossed up with their bombastic tendencies to bitch, moan, whine, twist, deceive, misinform, disinform, and demonize.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @11.1.16    10 months ago

So what has she done well since she became VP?  Sell people on her and they may be more willing to vote for Joe.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.18  CB  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.8    10 months ago

And besides who cares about Harris' relationships in the past-in the climb-up the ladder. The fact is she is a married woman now and still the whiny-moaning-ceaseless drone from MAGAs. . . . So we see this is fakery, it is dirty politics, it's a sham from shameless people who will lie, cheat, and steal from others their life-long and hard-won reputations to make their own truly miserable and sorry candidate appear to have a comparable facade of decency. 

And finally, let me say this: These people writing this type of disinformation have no clue what happened between Brown and Harris during their times together. They presume. . .much They have no idea (and not that it matters if it did) if Brown licked, sucked, or 'stuck'* anything on Harris) because if they do they should produce it for public consumption. I will not concede to the point for them anything on the matter until they do!

* Sorry, I hope you can forgive me for such language usage in a post.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  CB @11.1.18    10 months ago

Those who (pathetically) take that early relationship and then engage in an absurd level of extrapolation to claim, without any evidence, that all of her success was a result of performing sexual favors.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.20  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.9    10 months ago

Just an observation: I guess MAGA would know.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.21  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.13    10 months ago
other elements are sensationalized and misleading

Well articulated. The usual suspects are just 'mad' that Willie Brown did not date or go around once with them.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1.22  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.12    10 months ago
The only thing you have is her relationship with Brown at the beginning of her career.

Uh, No shit. That's like  arguing  "all the evidence you have is the videotape with the defendant smiling at the camera and saying his name as he committed the crime. How could you possibly believe my client is  guilty?" 

Imagine thinking her relationship didn't play a huge role in getting her political career started. Do you think simply graduating law school and failing the bar the first time = ticket to the highest reaches of state government? There are literally  tens of thousands  of women in California with similar resumes.And that's just lawyers. What separates her from those tens of thousands of women was her boyfriend basically ran the California state  Democratic Party and theirs did not. If this truly is surprising to you, there's this concept called "nepotism" that will blow your mind if you google it.  

It's truly unbelievable that anyone could possibly believe her relationship played no role in her career. No one can be that naive about politics. No one. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.23  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.17    10 months ago

Sorry, I don't do questions from MAGAs or its associates. . .we have a bad set of experiences over doing so. Make a statement and I will give a respond if it warrants one.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.24  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.22    10 months ago

But all you appear to offer is SUPPOSITION. You have no date tape or sex tape (audio or video). Sean, that is pretty naive and short on the merits. Indeed, if you were to publish such innuendo outright and 'far-flung' you could be held chargeable with defamation by Brown and/or Harris or both! Lucky for you - you brought it 'home' here where it is safe for now. 

But even if it were so (you can't prove it -nan-nan-nan-nan-nan), it would not matter to MAGAs, as MAGAs don't care about shame. Y'all are shameless. Harris is a married woman and as of marriage. . .one would think other married folks would be RESPECTFUL of it and not try to downgrade its 'sanctity' with lies and misinformation.  But. . . there is the shameless part to consider, I guess.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.22    10 months ago
It's truly unbelievable that anyone could possibly believe her relationship played no role in her career.

That is not the issue.  Nobody has claimed that Brown did not help her career.   

You, et. al., have gone totally beyond that to claim that her entire career (including her degrees, passing the Bar, etc.) was due to her granting of sexual favors.

That is blatant misogyny.    A successful woman with all sorts of academic and career accomplishments and you, because of an intimate relationship early in her career, say it is "obvious" that her many accomplishments were a result of sexual favors.   You get that from the fact that she is a woman.   That is misogyny.   It is also pathetic.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1.26  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @11.1.24    10 months ago
But all you appear to offer is SUPPOSITION. You have no date tape or sex tape (audio or video). Sean, that is pretty naive and short on the merits

If you want to believe they didn't have a relationship and both are lying about it, fine. Crazy how they got the media to report it in the 90s, huh?  Still, that's more coherent than admitting she was the mistress of the  Speaker of the House  and claim it played no role in her career. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.27  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.26    10 months ago

Define: Mistress. And prove Harris "did it." If you can't then you should 'retire' from further disinformation before somebody, somewhere, accuses MAGAs of having dirty minds. . .and obsessions with sexual innuendoes.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
11.1.31  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.8    10 months ago

Pathetic.   You extrapolate from an intimate relationship at the beginning of her career that all of her accomplishments were due to sexual favors.

I extrapolated nothing.  I didn’t attribute her accomplishments to him.  Do you think his power in CA politics was unused?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.33  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.8    10 months ago

Actually it is you doing the extrpolating.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.34  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.26    10 months ago

What I believe is it is none of your business who Kamala Harris dated for a year (1994-1995). MAGAs' have a real problem to fix: The tendency to dig into the past of folks looking for salacious shit to smear and tarnish with. 

While you are supposing to know scandalous shit - let's be clear. Ms. Harris at the time she was involved with Mr. Brown - he was 10 years, I repeat. . .TEN YEARS. . .SEPARATED from his wife. . . and the relationship with Harris was publicly known to everybody with a need to know it

Mr. Brown, did not then and does not now owe any explanation for why after 10 years of living separate and apart from his legal wife of record he should take up and date another woman. . . for whatever purposes they privately agreed upon. It was a consensual relationship of some UNKNOWN to the public kind.  MAGAs "imagination" is bull, because it is hyper-partisan and biased to the hilt!

Sean, you know nothing about the 'inner working' of the year 1994-95 relationship between the two people. It's just shameless attacks. . . for which MAGAs ought to be ashamed. But, I don't care that MAGAs are shameless - I am getting used to it as a FACT of it now.

Finally, one could be forgiven for wondering if MAGAs have experiences with sexual liaisons that advance their careers: I could play the SUPPOSE game too. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
11.1.35  George  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.14    10 months ago

The twisting and turning is hysterical, Mixture rating isn't because she didn't open her legs to get positions she wasn't qualified to hold, it's because they "feel" Willie Brown wasn't really married because they had been separated for a long time.

Okay, I will concede that she didn't have an affair to get ahead, she just slept with the most powerful man in California politics to get jobs she wasn't qualified to hold. She is just a higher-class prostitute then then average street walker we see in San Francisco.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.37  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.36    10 months ago
it's a pathetic example of ignoring the reality JUST because she has a D behind her name.

D, woman, Minority.  She checks lots of boxes.  She could probably shoot someone on 5th avenue and many dems would build a wall around her.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.38  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @11.1.34    10 months ago
While you are supposing to know scandalous shit - let's be clear. Ms. Harris at the time she was involved with Mr. Brown - he was 10 years, I repeat. . .TEN YEARS. . .SEPARATED from his wife. . . and the relationship with Harris was publicly known to everybody with a need to know it

WHat would you say if Trump or Bobbitt did the same thing?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.40  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.39    10 months ago

Good point

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.1.41  CB  replied to  George @11.1.35    10 months ago

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
11.1.42  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.3    9 months ago

Had a brother in law once who had  Masters in physics and a PHD in statistical analysis. The guy had a Mensa level IQ, but the common sense of a rock. My sister had to balance their checkbook because he could not figure out how. High IQ and higher degrees does not always equal wisdom and common sense. Harris is a example of such.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.43  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @11.1.42    9 months ago
Harris is a example of such.

As I noted, not a fan of Harris.

But the context (not yours) was the notion of Harris' success due to her giving sexual favors her entire career.  That her accomplishments had nothing to do with her intellect and only her body.    Given there is no evidence of this, such a claim implies that the only way a woman can get ahead is by giving sexual favors.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
11.1.44  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.43    9 months ago

"Given there is no evidence of this, such a claim implies that the only way a woman can get ahead is by getting giving sexual favors."

I have never bought into that and never will. My maternal Mexican and Apache grandmother raised me better than that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.45  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @11.1.44    9 months ago
I have never bought into that ...

I would be surprised if you did think that way.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12  George    10 months ago

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George
Junior Expert
13  George    10 months ago

Anybody who thinks Kamala is fit to be president is probably dumb enough to vote for Biden.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
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