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Biden could miss the deadline for the November ballot in Ohio, the state's election office says - The Washington Post

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  8 months ago  •  44 comments

By:   John Seewer and Marc Levy (Washington Post)

Biden could miss the deadline for the November ballot in Ohio, the state's election office says - The Washington Post
President Joe Biden could miss the deadline to be included on the ballot in Ohio this fall

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By John Seewer and Marc Levy | APApril 8, 2024 at 10:27 a.m. EDT(Alex Brandon/AP)ShareComment on this storyCommentAdd to your saved storiesSave

TOLEDO, Ohio — President Joe Biden could be left off the ballot in Ohio this fall unless the state's Republican-dominated legislature creates an exception to the ballot deadline or the Democratic Party moves up its convention, according to the office that oversees the state's elections.

Ohio's deadline to certify presidential candidates for the general election is Aug. 7, nearly two weeks before the Democratic National Convention, at which Biden is expected to be nominated to run against Republican challenger Donald Trump.

Ohio law requires that presidential candidates be certified 90 days before the general election, which is on Nov. 5 this year, said a letter written last week by Paul DiSantis, chief legal counsel for Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose.

"Please contact me as soon as possible with any information that can assure this office of timely compliance with Ohio law," the letter said.

The Biden campaign said Monday that it does not expect the snag to keep the president off the ballot.

"We're monitoring the situation in Ohio, and we're confident that Joe Biden will be on the ballot in all 50 states," the campaign said in a statement.

A similar situation came up before the 2020 presidential election. In that case, both the Republican and Democratic conventions were scheduled outside the deadline window so Ohio lawmakers approved changing the cutoff to 60 days — but only for that election.

The letter sent to Ohio Democratic Party Chair Liz Walters said that the legislature would need to act by May 9 to create an exception to the 90-day deadline or that Democrats would need to move up their convention, which would seem unlikely.

Messages seeking comment were left with Walters and the state party on Monday.

Trump won Ohio in 2016 on his way to the White House and won it again in 2020, when he lost to Biden, becoming the first losing presidential candidate Ohio had supported since it sided with Richard Nixon over John F. Kennedy in 1960.

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Levy reported from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    8 months ago

Guess this is ironic and poetic justice seeing as how the Dems wanted Trump off the ballot in several states. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    8 months ago

It would be if Republicans pulled the same shit as Democrats.

Instead Republicans in the Ohio Legislature will beg, plead, and cajole Brandon and the DNC into eventually writing requesting an extension; and then pass a bill extending. The entire leadup to the written permission will be treated the same Democrats using lawfare to go after Trump; and keep independents off the ballot by the media. Democrats will scream and cry how Republicans are persecuting them unfairly- and are abusing state law in Ohio to keep them off the ballot.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    8 months ago

Could we be that lucky?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.2.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    8 months ago

Would be some real funny shit being a battleground state.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    8 months ago

How would handing the presidency to Trump be fortunate for the nation?

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.3  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.2    8 months ago

Hmmm, disliked and unpredictable or liked and feeble? Yeah, that's a tough choice...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  GregTx @1.2.3    8 months ago

I don't think Biden is liked all that much. He's pretty much pissed off just about everyone.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.5  GregTx  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.4    8 months ago

True, okay then. Old and incontinent or old and addled?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.2    8 months ago

I did not say anything about handing the presidency to Trump. That was your interpretation not mine. I simply meant it would be poetic justice to those blue states so intent on doing it to Trump.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.2.7  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.6    8 months ago

Dems seem to forget about Karma and that old "What goes around comes around".

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @1.2.3    8 months ago
Hmmm, disliked and unpredictable or liked and feeble? Yeah, that's a tough choice...

"disliked and unpredictable" is a substantial downplaying from a vindictive, loose-cannon, narcissistic traitor who is the only PotUS in US history to attempt to steal a presidential election through coercion, fraud, lying, and incitement.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.6    8 months ago
I did not say anything about handing the presidency to Trump.

If Biden loses all electoral votes in a critical state, he almost certainly loses the election.   That hands the presidency to Trump.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.10  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.9    8 months ago
That hands the presidency to Trump.

Good

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.11  JBB  replied to  bugsy @1.2.10    8 months ago

At least you're proud to wear a MAGA Hat!

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.12  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.8    8 months ago

Ha, as opposed to the other?

vindictive, loose-cannon, narcissistic traitor..
 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.13  bugsy  replied to  JBB @1.2.11    8 months ago

t least you're proud to wear a MAGA Hat!

 

Well, being I don't own one, your post is, once again, bullshit.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.14  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.9    8 months ago

I see it more as keeping the presidency from Biden myself.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.14    8 months ago

Then you would prefer Trump to be PotUS?  

There are not many options here, Ed.   Either you prefer Trump or you prefer Biden.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.16  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.15    8 months ago

No, you don't have to prefer either one, just realize your stuck with one...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.17  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @1.2.16    8 months ago

That means one cannot see any difference between the two in terms of the impact on the nation.

Bullshit.

No two politicians are identical and Trump and Biden are substantially different.   No way on the planet can they be considered identical.

Thus everyone who gives this any thought whatsoever will form an opinion on which is better/worse for the nation.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.18  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.17    8 months ago
That means one cannot see any difference between the two in terms of the impact on the nation.

As you said, bullshit!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.19  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @1.2.18    8 months ago

So all you can offer is nuh'uh.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.20  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.19    8 months ago

What do you think can be offered at this point?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.21  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @1.2.20    8 months ago

I just illustrated how it is essentially impossible for two presidential candidates to be seen as equal in terms of good/harm to the nation.   There is always a difference.   And in the case of Trump and Biden the differences are profound.

It is ridiculous to imply that a rational adult cannot make a determination as to which of the two would be worst/best for the nation.

One can always offer which they hold as worse (or best) and provide reasons why they hold that opinion.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.22  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.15    8 months ago

We have gone through this several times previously and I have always said I do not want either one in the Oval Office as I do not think either one is fit for the office a second time around. I keep saying the same thing over and over. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.23  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.22    8 months ago

I am quite aware of your position and I did not ask you your position.  I know you are not planning to vote for either because you believe neither is fit.

That was not the point.

The point is that it is basically impossible to hold that Trump and Biden are equal.   There are differences ... profound differences.   Those two men will take the USA in very different directions.  

One of them will be the PotUS.   If you had the power to pick which one (but only out of those two), I doubt that you would throw up your arms and claim that you cannot decide.

That was the point.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.24  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.19    8 months ago

Ahhhh, carry on then..

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.25  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.2    8 months ago

It would be just as unfortunate for Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine to be handed the presidency via the Democrats use of lawfare.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.26  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @1.2.11    8 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    8 months ago

If only it would happen!

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I'd have to tune into MSNBC.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    8 months ago

TOLEDO, Ohio — President Joe Biden could be left off the ballot in Ohio this fall unless the state's Republican-dominated legislature creates an exception to the ballot deadline or the Democratic Party moves up its convention, according to the office that oversees the state's elections.

While I really don't want that to happen and doubt it will it would be hilarious to watch the the lefts reaction to it.  The screams of agony by the same people that want Trump taken off some ballots would be a show for the ages.

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    8 months ago

Notagonnahappen...

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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3.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JBB @3    8 months ago

just like the 14th was going to keep him off the ballot 

 or just like that half a billion bond was going to bankrupt him , 

or just like , not one but 2 impeachments were suppose to take care of the matter ....

 im starting to wonder if they are not mixing teflon in with his cheap spray tan solution .....

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.1    8 months ago

Damn he has ineffective lawyers.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.2  JBB  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.1    8 months ago

Get back to us if Biden is not on Ohio's ballot November 5th...

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3.1.3  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JBB @3.1.2    8 months ago

Oh I think he will be on the ballot, not that I care, I'm not voting in Ohio.

Heck I don't even live in a swing or battleground state for that matter, so I can vote my conscience to no real effect except to say I voted.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3    8 months ago

Because the democrats have an army of lawyers working on election rules?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    8 months ago
Ohio's deadline to certify presidential candidates for the general election is Aug. 7

This law has been in place since 2014. I don’t know what the deadline was before that. In 2020, both parties held their conventions in late August, so this is not new scheduling. Apparently Ohio made an exception that year. Going back several elections, a number of conventions have been held in late August, and even in September.

President Joe Biden could be left off the ballot in Ohio

Now that’s curious. Apparently, if you engage in Insurrection, in violation of the 14th Amendment (according to your state Secretary of State, and a state court), you can’t be left off the ballot because that would constitute interfering with a federal election.

But if your convention is a little late, Ohio can keep you off the ballot. 

Seems fair jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tacos! @4    8 months ago

Democrats deserve what they get for the shit they have pulled trying to keep Trump off the ballot.

In fact for the shit they have pulled for the last 8 years and counting.

Also, learn the definition of what an insurrection is! Then teach it to every last damn Democrat and leftist out there.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
4.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1    8 months ago
Also, learn the definition of what an insurrection is!

That might be harder than you think. The law on insurrection reads as follows:

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

So, if a person engages in insurrection, incites insurrection, or assists insurrection, he is guilty of insurrection. That’s pretty circular. None of this explains what insurrection actually is legally. Usually, you can read a law and find the elements required to prove violation of the law, but this law just says you’re guilty of the crime if you commit the crime.

In cases like this, the courts end up defining the crime. I.e. Act A is insurrection, but Act B is not. Then, you make the argument that in the case at bar, the alleged behavior more closely resembles Act A than it does Act B. These vagaries are why I think Trump has not been - and never will be - charged with insurrection. The events of January 6 are entirely unique in American history. The prosecutors don’t want to roll that dice.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5  Snuffy    8 months ago

All this hand-wringing over one state which has voted Democrat twice in the past six presidential elections (both times for Obama). And current polling in the state shows it leans heavily Republican. 

Somehow I don't think this is a state that Democrats are really counting on in the first place.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
6  Mark in Wyoming     8 months ago

They could always do nothing , and depending on the states write in rules ( each state is different i have found out ) he could always be written in .

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7  Tacos!    8 months ago

Ohio for Kennedy!

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tacos! @7    8 months ago

You mean if the DNC lawyers don't keep Kennedy off the Ohio ballot that is.

 
 

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