How big will the Democratic lie get?
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Days of bravado from President Joe Biden combined with bullying by his closest adherents and crass careerism in the Democratic Party may be about to save the incumbent from being forcibly retired, as he should be.
If he manages even a moderate performance during his scheduled Thursday press conference at the NATO meeting in Washington, D.C., it is possible that he will avoid the proper consequences of his embarrassing debate performance. But his survival, if it comes, should cost every Democrat the last shred of credibility, for it would require them to pretend not to see what every voter has seen — that Biden is manifestly incapable of continuing to lead the country.
For more than a year, an overwhelming majority of voters, including a slim majority of Democratic voters, have told pollsters that Biden is too old to serve another term. These concerns are not the result of a conservative media propaganda campaign to undermine a Democratic president, as has been suggested. They are what any fair-minded person would have concluded from watching Biden since he first took office. This newspaper has said Biden was unfit for the office since before he entered it, not merely because of his career of incompetence and bad decision-making, but also because of his obvious and rapid mental decline.
Examples of his intellectual fragility are too numerous to count, but here are some picked at random. He forgot the name of his own secretary of defense just weeks after moving into the White House; in a speech he repeatedly called for Rep. Jackie Walorski to join him at the podium, not remembering that she was dead; and he mixed up the presidents of Mexico and Egypt during a late-night press conference specifically called to refute special counsel Robert Hur's description of him as an "elderly man with a poor memory."
He is also obviously in physical decline. He fell off his bicycle in Delaware, fell over in a heap at a military event, and repeatedly fell while trying to climb the steps into Air Force One. There are dozens more examples that should embarrass the majority of the White House press corps that ignored them. Some news outlets including these pages have not shied away from the truth and have reported what is going on. But for the most part, news media have worked hard to cover for Biden and conceal the truth from the public. They have betrayed their calling.
The Left-dominated press decided there was no story, so the story was suppressed rather than pursued. This is inexcusable. There has been some late accountability, such as the sacking of a radio host in Philadelphia who used a list of questions provided by the White House in an interview with Biden the day after his debate debacle. But her complicity in the media's big lie is no different in substance from what many in the White House press corps have been doing for years — making sure their questions toed the official White House line, sometimes even to the extent of submitting those questions to the press shop in advance so Biden's staff could prepare his answers.
As bad as was MSNBC host Joe Scarborough's infamous assertion that Biden at 81 years old is "the best Biden ever," he is just one of many who have hidden Biden's condition because they thought their first duty was to prevent the election of his opponent, former President Donald Trump.
Many of the most senior Democrats are equally to blame in this colossal cover-up and fraud on the public. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), and most importantly, Vice President Kamala Harris all regularly talk with the president and meet with him in person and must have known how enfeebled he had become. What did they know and when did they know it? These questions must be answered.
Democrats must now ask themselves how big they are willing to let their lie get. After an initial round of truth-telling by some elected Democrats in the aftermath of the debate, Biden and his allies have browbeaten many critics into submission. They and Biden himself in a letter to Congress argue that he is not going anywhere. It is a threat to critics that they will be excluded from influence and power if he wins. If he loses, critics will be blamed. This is an appeal to the careerist fears of the Washington swamp.
Two days ago on a private call, Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) said Biden should step aside. Now he says, "He's going to be our nominee, and we all have to support him." Did Biden suddenly get well? On Sunday, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) was planning to lead a delegation to the White House to force Biden to step down. Now Warner only says, "It is incumbent upon the president to more aggressively make his case to the American people."
The truth is that Biden did not merely have one bad night. His condition is bad and, through no fault of his own, it can only get worse. Every time Biden slips up, every time he says he is the "first black woman" to be president, every time he claims he created NATO, and every time he suggests Warner ran against him for the presidency, Democrats will be forced to repeat the lie that Biden is still capable and competent to do the toughest job in the world.
Biden seems to believe all the polling is wrong and thinks he is tied with Trump. Democrats can see the polling too. They know he is wrong. They seem increasingly content to let his delusions continue on to the crack of doom. They, like him, do not deserve the trust of the nation.
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And those Democrats won't have any problems pushing the lie Biden is ok.
Hell no they won’t. They’ve been pushing that lie for 4 years. They won’t suddenly stop now that “our democracy is at stake”. Lol.
If the Ds do not convince Biden to step aside they face a far bigger problem than propping him up. They (we all) face a term-limited, vindictive, loose-cannon, narcissist Trump as PotUS freshly armed with expanded presidential powers per the SCotUS.
The Democrats are stuck with and are sticking with Biden.
Yeah, I know, it is kind of sad.
It does seem that they are sticking with him for now.
Trouble is, all the public calls for him to step aside have alone probably damaged his chances beyond repair. What a wonderful gift to the GOP campaign ads.
Thus, to me, the rock and hard-spot decision is to suck it up and get Biden to withdraw so that the Ds provide a choice that will encourage the electorate to NOT reelect Trump.
yeah, that won't be happening.
The country survived the first Trump term, it will survive a second.
What it won't survive is another 4 years of Democrat BS. Which is the reason Republicans must win at every level. Otherwise Democrats will do what they did Trump's first term with endless investigations, impeachment hearings, and working against Trump both here and abroad. Or worse if Biden wins and the Democrats continue with their weaponization of government against their political opponents; letting illegals flood into the country; and attempting again to pack the Supreme Court and federalize all elections.
Thanks for shining a little sanity on it!
If Biden sticks to his gun's things should get very interesting.
This thing also involves the down ballot. Not only the White House is at stake.
Dems should dust off their steele dossier and get their monies worth for that fake document. biden wouldn’t know any different.
Now the DOJ is claiming that the Russian bastards are posting Biden's speeches all over social media.
before or after the WH 'scrubs' the transcripts?
Democrats can't force Biden out and are stuck with him, as is America.
No, but I've seen what they are capable of when it comes to defeating Trump & the people.
The 25th Amendment is there in "plain sight" waiting for them.
They don't possess enough integrity to do anything.
Stop conflating defeating Trump with defeating "the people". I am trying to eat dinner.
They were prepared to use it back then.
That would be a politically crazy thing to do. The smart move is to convince Biden to withdraw.
Of course that will be tried, but as I said if he sticks to his guns, they will resort to drastic measures.
Some may consider it as an act of patriotism.
The crazy thing was Democrats giving power to Harris that she didn't earn or deserve as VP.
Guess their check the box bullshit for selecting people for important government positions is coming to bite them in the ass.
Biden bows out or is removed, and Harris will expect to be the Democrat nominee. She is polling worse than Biden for good reason.
Democrats dump her and they will still kiss this election goodbye.
If the only way to beat Trump was to euthanize Joe, they would do it and don't think they wouldn't use lawfare against Biden. They were tone deaf to influence peddling. That can all change if Joe remains stubborn.
I doubt it. I think they would choose to lose and work for 2028 rather than blow up a D presidency that way.
Not the democrats I've watched the past 7 years.
Todays dems are the most batshit crazy loons i’ve ever seen. A person would have to be a complete fool to vote for biden.
Yikes ... what a dark, cynical view.
Tough call if it's crazy or not.
Being I'm not a democrat, way I see it Biden is currently in the same position as Nixon.
Nixon's choice was to resign or stay on and face impeachment and likely conviction of the charges and be removed anyway.
Bidens choice is shaping up no better, step down before the convention,or try and hang on with the threat of the 25th initiated by his own party if the party lock stock and barrel is sure the election and down ballot seats will be lost without a change of candidate at the top.
They may lose the presidential election , but they will also want to minimize any down ballot loses as well.
Just an outsiders view to the parties choices or what they will eventually be limited to .
Me? I am just waiting to see what exactly the Dem party will be offering up for a candidate come election day in Nov.
Yup, everything is on the up & up / S
I see no way that using the 25th would help minimize down ballot losses.
At this point, I think they only chance the Ds have is to get Biden to withdraw, release his delegates and quietly finish his term of office.
And even with that, they need to pick a strong individual who could grab the reins and win in a few short months.
Normally I would say this is impossible except for the fact that the GOP has put forth Trump.
Try to find a spot between the extremes.
George W ?
The dems called him a Nazi.
There can be no more decency for people who used lawfare and hoaxes and lies to destroy one man.
And total batshit craziness
I'm not Dr Strange in Infinity Wars or End game where I have seen all the possible outcomes with only one being good for the Dem party, but I sure am starting too feel like it.
We'll see in another month. Read an article this morning that said the DNC committee can change the rules and vote on the rules at the beginning of the convention that could free up the delegates to vote for anybody they want to. Should be an interesting time. Biggest problem the Democrats have IMO is they really don't have anybody in the wings ready to step up.
Who do you think could win?
except weren't they going to basically hold a vote before the convention to make sure Biden gets on all the state ballots?
Think of it this way. You have a choice of Trump or a decent human being with sufficient experience, moderate, youthful, and responsible. There are plenty of D governors who fit that bill such as Josh Shapiro or Tim Walz.
Would you choose Trump over a decent human being who has sufficient experience, is moderate, youthful, and responsible?
I was asking the poster who among Democrats he thought could win this year.
Kind of moot, anyway, it will be Biden.
Democrats have vacated being moderate and responsible. You can have youthful, corrupt, power hungry, and batshit crazy radical leftist.
Neither of whom will inspire hard core leftists to vote. Doubtful they will get tapped in front of Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, or someone else that will appeal to the far left radical base.
So what? I gave you an answer. So where do you go from here? Do you agree or disagree?
I also asked you a question that you, of course, will not answer.
I have no compelling need to answer you.
Get a grip.
So what? They need to inspire normal Ds and Independents.
Again, get a grip. Everyone to your left is NOT "far left radical".
Would you choose Trump over a decent human being who has sufficient experience, is moderate, youthful, and responsible?
It is no doubt obvious to every regular in this forum why you spend time deflecting rather than answer a very simple, appropriate question.
Just amazing that you think you are fooling anyone with your tactics.
Do you think people defending Biden right now are being responsible?
I am absolutely THRILLED to be the topic of conversation amongst y'all!
/s
Right now one of two people will be PotUS.
Trump is entirely unfit for office. And armed with expanded presidential powers, that vindictive loose-cannon could be dangerous.
Biden is currently the worst presumptive nominee (other than Trump) for the presidency that I have seen in my lifetime, but he could function and is a responsible adult. He will have (and will listen to) his many advisors.
Those who defend Biden are defending the best choice we have in this miserable election year. I would say it is the only rational choice.
But it defends on what they are defending too. If they are trying to say that age is not a factor then that is not rational or responsible IMO. If they are saying that he would still be better for this nation than Trump then I could see many rational arguments in support of that.
General vague questions make it difficult to provide a pointed response.
The obsession some have with you is downright creepy.
You keep responding to me so why not answer the question I posed:
Would you choose Trump over a decent human being who has sufficient experience, is moderate, youthful, and responsible?
I try to stay flattered!
I have no damn idea on earth how to convince you I won't vote for Trump.
Either accept that as the truth and move on, or stop asking when my answers are plain.
I accept it.
I respect your principles and fortunately we may not need your vote.
Thanks for that
I figured the standard English I use would have been quite clear by now, but apparently not for all.
It is pretty obvious he just doesn't want to answer your question. Especially one that is just another variation of one he has answered a couple dozen times before. Living with disappointment is important.
I see. So you're alright with a proxy president as long is it's not Trump.
I believed you when you first said it several months ago.
Then, logically, you would vote for a decent human being who has sufficient experience, is moderate, youthful, and responsible ... even if that individual is a D.
I have been clear all along, but why bother asking if you won't believe the answer?
it is senseless!
Trump is not an option. That lowers the bar considerably.
Our nation can continue with a frail PotUS. This is not the first time in our history that we have had this condition. So clearly this is a better option than a Trump presidency.
It appears whatever i say won't be believed by you, so why do you persist in this trolling questioning?
You think that is going to get him to answer?
The question I asked was something I have never asked you before.
Given you insist you will never vote for Trump, your answer could have been that you would vote for the D, vote for someone else, or abstain.
If Biden is out of the race and the Ds put forth a candidate that people could generally vote FOR, that is entirely different situation than what we have had for the past year.
Oh, it looks like he wants you to vote for another 4 years of what we got.
In other words, you see no difference between Biden or any other D PotUS. To you they are all identical.
I disagree, this isn't FDR during a world war, although that's getting closer isn't it? Nor Reagan at the end of his second term. This is someone with legitimate cognitive issues wanting to be reelected.
If the choice is Biden or Trump, Biden is better for the nation. As I noted, our nation is not going to blow up because of a frail PotUS. Been there, done that.
Trump is entirely unacceptable.
You asked me YET AGAIN (predictably) if I would vote for Trump.
I will say it one last time, so save this post:
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP, PERIOD, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVER.
If that isn't plain enough, then I have no idea how to communicate that simple fact any clearer.
Fuck voting for Biden, it is not good for the country.
Whoever is running this country right now has very radical views. I think we can all agree Joe isn't running the show, as a matter of fact the WSJ just showed us that Antony Blinken filled in for Joe in an important meeting in Germany, when Joe had to go to sleep.
Should Joe bow out, that raises the hand grenade he left the democrats stuck with named Kamala Harris. You are not getting around a black woman. It will be her turn. She may be young, but she is in way over head and that means the same people will be running things.
There is only one option: Donald Trump.
Look at it this way: It will be his last term.
If that isn't plain enough, then I have no idea how to communicate that simple fact any clear
It’s appears that anyone who doesn’t drink the Democratic Party kool aid and isn’t willing to parrot whatever ridiculous lies serve that party at the moment is MAGA. It’s more of a loyalty test to the Democratic Party than anything else.
You dislike the Ds so you run to Trump and do not recognize that he is a vindictive, loose-cannon, narcissist who would be now further empowered to engage in irresponsible, illegal, unconstitutional acts.
Sure but if it was discovered that Hitler didn't actually die and the democrats nominated him would you vote for trump?
It is just trolling to ask the same thing a hundred times when it has been answered so many times already.
Again with the strawman. I did not ask if you would vote for Trump.
Given you insist you will never vote for Trump, your answer could have been that you would vote for the D, vote for someone else, or abstain.
If Biden is out of the race and the Ds put forth a candidate that people could generally vote FOR, that is entirely different situation than what we have had for the past year.
Nope!
Lmao!
I think you are getting it.
Bill Maher said it best: To many people Donald Trump is the bulwark against all the crazy wokeness they are seeing."
WTF?
here:
Now I will admit you didn't TYPE the word "vote", so what exactly DID you mean by "choose"?
No need to explain what is clearly obvious.
And yet, your questions remain the same.
You feel like you are on the witness stand and you have been deemed a hostile witness?
I just see zero point and a real lack of thoughtful commentary in asking the same old tired shit again and again.
I would not choose Trump.
Are you using "choose" in place of voting for?
Hell, any decent judge would say "asked and answered" and end it.
What is creepy, is how your little far right group sticks together on about everything ol.e ex blathers about, which is to say a lot. He constantly is inserting his far right opinions, thus why he is often at the center of discussions, that can have repercussions, for he , imo, does not make a very good case as to being on the fence, for his stances are virtually always anti Dems and anti Biden, while it seems Trump coat tails he wishes to be riding, while stating he would never vote for eithner one, yet there can be no denying his and yours along with others, prefer to ask for explanations already given, ask questions where answered already, pretend to misunderstand like the dead from the living, and the feeble juvenile denial gets old, and all the while, too many just want to evade why they feel Trump shouldn't be their guy,
can any of you ever truthfully answer WHY, cause it is either a cult mentality , or a peer pressured actuality, that any thinking individual can blatantly see, so, sorry i brought it up
Again. I AM NOT THE TOPIC!
The irony is spectacular.
“for it would require them to pretend not to see what every voter has seen”
His cognitive decline was very evident in the 2020 debates. I am surprised he made it this far.
I saw a story last week pointing out how the New York Times and other democrats were critical of Biden's mental issues during the Democratic primary debates. Once the party cleared the field for him and he became the nominee, the stories stopped and they went in to protect mode until last week, when they realized he could cost them the election. Then his mental health became a permissible topic again. .
Three weeks ago, Biden froze at the Hollywood fund raiser. Unedited videos showing it were called by "cheap fakes" by the Biden White House and the MSM dutifully parroted the message, leading to those same sorts of claims being made on this site.
Today, Clooney admitted that the Biden at the fundraiser was the same struggling person we saw at the debate. Suddenly, with Democrats panicking about Biden's chances, they learn how to be honest. But no apologies for the lying or the coverup. Don't ever believe they are more honest than Trump. That's the big lie.
What do they say to the CNN and MSNBC viewers?
What do they say to the CNN and MSNBC viewers?
I dont think many care. They are so invested in their fantasies that being lied to is perfectly fine,
Not only have they been caught lying to them, but now they must prepare them for the democrat civil war.
I just heard one democrat strategist say that if Joe doesn't bow out by next week a Whistleblower will emerge from his own administration.
Representative Adam smith:
Man, they are admitting everything now.
just heard one democrat strategist say that if Joe doesn't bow out by next week a Whistleblower will emerge from his own administration.
If this continues, the convention will be great fun. Dems problem is Jill Biden has no incentive to go from being the most powerful person on the planet to a caretaker for an unpleasant old man.
Not only that, but the DNC also made sure that Sanders would be beat. They were certain that Sanders couldn't win a general election.
Ironically, Biden enacted the Sanders policies. In effect America got what it refused to vote for.
They can thank Clyburn for that.
He was the first to save Joe, then the forces within the party called for everyone to coalesce around Joe.
Senator Peter Welch of Vermont is calling on Biden to get out of the race.
well that clinches it
The first Senator to call for it!
There is a report out there somewhere that Schumer who just said he "is with Joe," may already have turned as well.
4.2 was locked to keep it from getting worse
Thanks!
They are now blaming the staff for "hiding" how bad Joe was trying to keep the blame off themselves for being part of the biggest lie in American Politics. Everyone is trying to find the best way off the sinking ship.