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Trump campaign casts fresh doubt on September debate with Harris over microphone dispute | News | kimt.com
“The Harris camp, after having already agreed to the CNN rules, asked for a seated debate, with notes, and opening statements. We said no changes to the agreed upon rules.”

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(CNN) — Former President Donald Trump's campaign is casting fresh doubt on whether a September 10 debate will take place on ABC amid a dispute over the rules, a source familiar with the matter tells CNN.

Trump's team, according to the source, would like for the microphones to be muted throughout the debate except for the candidate whose turn it is to speak, as was the case during the first debate with President Joe Biden.

And Trump himself took aim at what he called the "biased" network Sunday evening, complaining about reporter Jonathan Karl and a panel of "Trump Haters" on his Truth Social platform. "Why would I do the Debate against Kamala Harris on that network?" the former president asked.

The Harris campaign is requesting that ABC and other networks seeking to host a potential October debate keep microphones on, according to a senior campaign official, marking a change from the June debate when the then-Biden campaign wanted microphones muted except when it was a candidate's turn to speak.

"We have told ABC and other networks seeking to host a possible October debate that we believe both candidates' mics should be live throughout the full broadcast," Brian Fallon, the Harris campaign's senior adviser for communications, said in a statement.

"Our understanding is that Trump's handlers prefer the muted microphone because they don't think their candidate can act presidential for 90 minutes on his own. We suspect Trump's team has not even told their boss about this dispute because it would be too embarrassing to admit they don't think he can handle himself against Vice President Harris without the benefit of a mute button," he said.

Trump's campaign has argued that when they agreed to the ABC debate with Harris at the top of the ticket, they were agreeing to the same guidelines of the previous debate.

"Enough with the games. We accepted the ABC debate under the exact same terms as the CNN debate," Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller said in a statement. "The Harris camp, after having already agreed to the CNN rules, asked for a seated debate, with notes, and opening statements. We said no changes to the agreed upon rules."

The Harris campaign pushed back on Miller's claim that it was seeking for the candidates to be seated with access to notes.

The ABC debate was officially agreed upon earlier this month, though Trump has repeatedly called for a revised setting, including a "full arena audience" debate hosted by Fox News.

Still, both candidates have been engaged in practice debate sessions. Harris is set to visit Georgia this week, aides said, along with a limited number of campaign stops as she focuses on debate preparations.

Trump, for his part, has enlisted one of Harris' former 2020 Democratic primary rivals, former Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. Harris and Gabbard had several notable exchanges during the Democratic primary debates, where Harris criticized Gabbard for her foreign policy views while Gabbard challenged Harris' record on criminal justice.

This story has been updated with additional information.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    3 months ago

Notes? Seated? Opening statements? This isn't a trial dumbass. While I am sure you would be more comfortable, it isn't all about you. Flexing those errant VP muscles?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 months ago

She wants to harken back to her days as a prosecutor.

Maybe her camp should tell her its a debate.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    3 months ago
Maybe her camp should tell her its a debate.

Just because they are called debates does not mean they are, a real debate makes a mockery of the Whack-a-Mole, Punch a Judy that occurs on the political stage.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @1.1.1    3 months ago

Whatever, her camp should still clue her in no matter what you wish to call it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 months ago

Good grief, even on something as simple as setting up rules for a debate you leap to calling Harris a "dumbass", accusing her of being narcissistic ("it isn't all about you"), and being a bully ("Flexing those errant VP muscles?").

In setting up the rules for a presidential debate, both sides make their requests and then negotiate.  None of this is unusual.

Interesting to see if Trump uses this as an excuse to back out of the debate ... even if the Harris camp drops their changes.

I doubt Trump wants to face Harris.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2    3 months ago
I doubt Trump wants to face Harris.

He agreed to the same rules she agreed to.

Only one wants those rules to change.

Going to be hard to spin "Trump is afraid" when it sure looks like Harris isn't comfortable with the rules she agreed to.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.2.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @1.2    3 months ago
I doubt Trump wants to face Harris.

He isn't the one wanting to change up the format.......................

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    3 months ago
Only one wants those rules to change.

So what?   They make their request.   If the other side does not agree then the request dies.

Going to be hard to spin "Trump is afraid" when it sure looks like Harris isn't comfortable with the rules she agreed to.

There is no need to spin anything.   If Trump backs out of this debate simply because of Harris' requests it will be quite obvious that he does not want to debate her.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.4  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.2    3 months ago

Requests are normal.   This is not unusual.   You are trying to make a big deal out of an entirely normal protocol.

 
 
 
George
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1.2.5  George  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.4    3 months ago

Harris is an ignorant bitch who is looking for any excuse to escape having to defend the Biden/Harris legacy because she lacks the intelligence to think on her feet, your comments defending her are borderline propaganda for the DNC.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.3    3 months ago
So what? 

Right, unimportant and completely irrelevant. Sigh......

There is no need to spin anything. 

I know that, which is why I was somewhat surprised that is what is happening.

 If Trump backs out of this debate simply because of Harris' requests it will be quite obvious that he does not want to debate her.

And if she backs out because she now doesn't like the rules she agreed to, it shows she never wanted to debate Trump in the first place.

Rules were agreed to, there should be nothing further to negotiate.

Funny, but I suspect if Trump wanted to change the rules, the comments sure would be different and how he is scared to debate her..

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.7  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.3    3 months ago
If Trump backs out of this debate simply because of Harris' requests it will be quite obvious that he does not want to debate her.

And if the tables are turned? What say ye then?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.8  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @1.2    3 months ago

Do you support Kamal's attempts to control every aspect of these debates?

Why is she afraid to come onto Fox? Bret Baier and Martha McCallum are not exactly far right foaming at the mouth conservatives

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  George @1.2.5    3 months ago
Harris is an ignorant bitch ...

No point in reading anything else you write on this topic.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.10  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.8    3 months ago
Do you support Kamal's attempts to control every aspect of these debates?

Hyperbolic claims abound.   This is normal.   She made requests.   This is a negotiation.

Why is she afraid to come onto Fox? Bret Baier and Martha McCallum are not exactly far right foaming at the mouth conservatives

I would expect Harris to agree to debates (even on Fox) if her campaign believes it is the best use of her time.    I am not privy to the inner campaign workings.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.11  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.6    3 months ago
And if she backs out because she now doesn't like the rules she agreed to, it shows she never wanted to debate Trump in the first place.

If Harris backs out merely because her requests are rejected (no other reasons) then that would be significant.

Funny, but I suspect if Trump wanted to change the rules. ...

You keep on defending Trump yet do not care which one is elected.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.12  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.7    3 months ago
And if the tables are turned? What say ye then?

What, specifically, do you have in mind?    Be specific if you want me to opine.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.2    3 months ago

Then why agree to the debate?  Or did you miss that part?  Now the question is why would the Harris campaign want to change the rules?  A lot of speculation from both sides as to why.  You just seem to take offense at the spculation about Kamalalalala's abilities.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.14  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.8    3 months ago
... Kamal's ...

Do you think that juvenile name-mangling like this in some way makes your point stronger?

For me, whenever I see this kind of crap I take the balance of the comment less seriously.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.2.15  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.12    3 months ago

What if Trump didn't budge and Harris refused to debate would it still be obvious that she doesn't want to debate him? That seemed a bit easy to discern.........if one wanted to.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.16  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.15    3 months ago

See @1.2.11

That seemed a bit easy to discern.........if one wanted to.

Ever notice how some people ask vague questions to give themselves wiggle room?    Thus, if you want me to answer a question, be specific.

 
 
 
George
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1.2.17  George  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.14    3 months ago

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TᵢG
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1.2.18  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.13    3 months ago
Then why agree to the debate? 

She agreed to debate.   Given the agreed upon debate she is negotiating the rules.  This is normal.

You just seem to take offense at the spculation about Kamalalalala's abilities.

My comments have argued that Trump supporters are making a big deal out of nothing.    Pay attention.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.18    3 months ago
Given the agreed upon debate she is negotiating the rules.

Rules were also agree upon.  Pay attention

Given the agreed upon debate she is negotiating the rules.

Your comments are just as I stated.  Pay attention

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.20  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.19    3 months ago
Rules were also agree upon.

Yes, Jeremy, and it is perfectly reasonable for Harris to request changes.   Trump does not have to agree.

You are (ridiculously) making a big deal out of nothing.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.21  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.11    3 months ago

You keep defending Harris but the best argument you have put forth for you voting for her is she isn't Trump.[]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.22  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.19    3 months ago

The rules don't mean anything if the newly Anointed One doesn't like them.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.23  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.21    3 months ago
You keep defending Harris but the best argument you have put forth for you voting for her is she isn't Trump.

Harris is the only presidential candidate I will consider.   Trump is entirely unfit for office.

But as I have stated, I like the Harris-Walz team.   They are positive, youthful, energetic, presidential, etc. and that is something the nation needs.   In addition, I hope they magically pull off a landslide in the hope that such a defeat will kick start an epiphany in the GOP so that it can start recovering.

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.23    3 months ago
Harris is the only presidential candidate I will consider

You misspelled "installed" candidate.  

But as I have stated, I like the Harris-Walz team.   They are positive, youthful, energetic, presidential, etc. and that is something the nation needs.

You left out part of the problem.  But lets ignore that little fact and run with the unproven "Trump's unfit" nonsense.

 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.20    3 months ago
Yes, Jeremy, and it is perfectly reasonable for Harris to request changes.

They're the ones that set the rules.  Have the Democrats realized Harris could be as bad as Biden?

You are (ridiculously) making a big deal out of nothing.

And you can't answer the question as to WHY she wants the changes.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.22    3 months ago

They think the rules never apply then cry when they are.[]

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.27  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.25    3 months ago
And you can't answer the question as to WHY she wants the changes.  

True, I do not have access to her mind nor can I access the minds of those managing the campaign.   

What I can do, however, is note how ridiculous Trump supporters are making a big deal out of nothing.   But, then, they do not have much material and have a great need to do something since Trump damages his own campaign each time he opens his mouth.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.2.28  Hallux  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.23    3 months ago
kick start an epiphany in the GOP so that it can start recovering.

A 12-step program will be required and unfortunately they are chained to their 'higher' power.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.29  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.27    3 months ago
True, I do not have access to her mind nor can I access the minds of those managing the campaign.   

That's interesting.  Based on your comment history you appear to have access to Trumps.  

What I can do, however, is note how ridiculous Trump supporters are making a big deal out of nothing. 

So take it up with them.

But, then, they do not have much material and have a great need to do something since Trump damages his own campaign each time he opens his mouth.

Opinions will vary.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.30  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.29    3 months ago
Based on your comment history you appear to have access to Trumps.  

You are simply making up bullshit claims now.   My comments are based on what Trump has done, not on what he is thinking.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
1.2.31  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.30    3 months ago
My comments are based on what Trump has done, not on what he is thinking.

And Joe Biden is capable of running for office.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.23    3 months ago
Harris is the only presidential candidate I will consider.   Trump is entirely unfit for office.

Yes, I know and have seen repeatedly your claim to never voting for Trump. Great!

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bugsy
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1.2.34  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.6    3 months ago

‘Funny, but I suspect if Trump wanted to change the rules, the comments sure would be different and how he is scared to debate her..’

He is not the one wanting to change the rules but the comments are still the same as you describe.

No one that really is prepared

to debate would want to change the rules last minute.

She does not want to debate because Trump will make her look like the dumbass she is

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    3 months ago

The Chicken Shit's gotta chicken shit...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @2    3 months ago

Yeah, she should be ashamed.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2    3 months ago

She's a chicken shit, I agree. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3  Texan1211    3 months ago

Dems a week or two ago:

Trump already agreed to a debate with Biden, the only thing that is changed is Harris for Biden, what's Trump afraid of?

Dems today:

Harris wants to change the rules, it's all negotiable, what's Trump afraid of?

Idiotic thinking--if one can call it that.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @3    3 months ago
diotic thinking--if one can call it that.

If there's one thing that's been driven home the last few years is that many progressives have no argument, or principle, they'll stick to once it becomes the slightest bit inconvenient. They are like the character in that Adam Sandler movie who suffered a traumatic brain injury and start everyday fresh, with no memory of what they said the day before.

 
 
 
George
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3.2  George  replied to  Texan1211 @3    3 months ago
Idiotic thinking

Their heads are so far up the democrats ASS they can probably tell us what they are thinking.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

She also wants to change the rules so Trump's mic will be turned on when she is speaking.  She's desperate for Trump to interrupt her so she can play the victim. That's how she thinks she win the debate. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 months ago

Exactly!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 months ago
She's desperate for Trump to interrupt her so she can play the victim.

I would think that she (and her campaign) want to enable Trump to illustrate his terrible demeanor.   Allowing him to interrupt and be a prick like he was in 2020 is certainly something that Harris can parlay into an advantage.   He acts like a petulant child and she remains cool and keeps making points.   That would be a very good debate strategy.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @4.2    3 months ago
 would think that she (and her campaign) want to enable Trump to illustrate his terrible demeanor

Yet they were the ones who demanded the mics off to begin with and Trump agreed.

Do you ever  hold Democrats to their word? 

she keeps making points

 If she were capable of that, she'd actually talk to the press.

It's been about 40 days since the winner of the Democratic Primaries was pushed out and replaced by his vice President and she's not given a single interview yet. They want Trump to have a mic so she doesn't have to talk and can play the poor, bullied victim who wasn't able to communicate because of mean Trump.     

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.1    3 months ago

Trump is not going to win by virtue of supporters whining about Harris talking to the press.    It is yet another feeble attack of low significance.

Do you ever  hold Democrats to their word? 

Get off your simplistic stereotype and go by what I write.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.2    3 months ago
t is yet another feeble attack of low significance.

Probably not ,  because Harris voters tend to be  either toadies for authoritarianism or low information idiots who vote for vibes. Arguing that a candidate for President should explain herself and her policies to voters won't work with either group.

ff your simplistic stereotyp

As you defend the boss selected, not elected,  major party candidate (who didn't even run for the position)  refusing to answer questions about her policies sixy odd days before the election....  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.3    3 months ago
because Harris voters tend to be  either toadies for authoritarianism or low information idiots who vote for vibes.

I think some of her voters are just one-issue voters. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.1    3 months ago
It's been about 40 days since the winner of the Democratic Primaries was pushed out and replaced by his vice President and she's not given a single interview yet.

I wonder if the same people making her decisions are the ones who are making them for Biden.

Looks like the same strategy--keep them aways from the press, even though the press is largely favorable to them both.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.3    3 months ago
As you defend the boss selected, not elected, ...

Irrelevant.   Nobody cares.   Another feeble attack.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
4.2.7  Hallux  replied to  TᵢG @4.2    3 months ago

To quote Just Jim, "exactly"!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.6    3 months ago
elevant.   Nobody cares.   Another feeble attack.

right. i agree. As I said, ,  Harris voters tend to be  either toadies for authoritarianism or low information idiots who vote for vibes so they don't care. 

Of course, if you told those same toadies and the "independent media" that  the republicans were going to switch out their elected nominee for a more electable candidate after the primaries and then hide the selected candidate from media and literally do no interviews or press conferences, they would be screaming about democracy dying in the darkness and what have you.   

Instead we get from those people "why should a candidate explain her positions and answer questions before an election? That's crazy!|

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.5    3 months ago
ke the same strategy--keep them aways from the press, even though the press is largely favorable to them both.

That's the thing they can't talk around. The media wants to help them. They know it. They know she should have had multiple interviews since the election winner was pushed out for her.  They just can't trust her to talk without a script and they know their voters are either too ignorant to notice or Harry Reid disciples who laugh and justify lying to voters because "they won." 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.8    3 months ago
Of course, if you told those same toadies and the "independent media" that  the republicans were going to switch out their elected nominee for a more electable candidate after the primaries and then hide the selected candidate from media and literally do no interviews or press conferences, they would be screaming about democracy dying in the darkness and what have you. 

I am looking forward to the day the truth comes out about who exactly decided Joe had to go. And what part Pelosi played.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.11  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.2    3 months ago

It is yet another feeble attack of low significance.’
sounds just like democrat surrogates and the actual Harris campaign

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    3 months ago

I dont think its going to matter if the microphones are left on or not, Trump will make a fool out of himself either way. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
5.1  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago

I doubt that the Trump campaign will allow the mics on.   Probably would happen only if Trump overrides them.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @5.1    3 months ago
I doubt that the Trump campaign will allow the mics on.

Don't know that rule came from the Democrats for the debate Biden made an ass of them?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.1    3 months ago

The Trump campaign would be wise to keep the mics off as a mechanism to dissuade Trump from interrupting like he did in 2020.

Trump, however, likes the mics open so he might override his team.   He has stated publicly that he has no problem with the mics being open.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.2    3 months ago
The Trump campaign would be wise to keep the mics off as a mechanism to dissuade Trump from interrupting like he did in 2020

Or it's a good way to keep Kamalalalala from cackling through the whole thing.  Like she does in every interview.

Trump, however, likes the mics open so he might override his team.

Then why did he agree to have them cut off?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.3    3 months ago
Then why did he agree to have them cut off?

That would be a question for Trump.   He recently stated he has no problem with mics being open.

Or it's a good way to keep Kamalalalala from cackling through the whole thing.  Like she does in every interview.

I recommend you pay closer attention to reality and put less credence in fantasy.  Juvenile name-mangling advertises a comment that has no merit.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.2    3 months ago
The Trump campaign would be wise to keep the mics off as a mechanism to dissuade Trump from interrupting like he did in 2020.

Ok, that is like Harris' team dodging press interviews for over a month now because we have seen and heard what happens when she (like Biden) goes off-script.

I wonder why anyone thinks Haris can fix any of the problems she didn't do anything to fix in her 4 years as VP. Seems like misguided wishful thinking,

 
 
 
George
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5.1.6  George  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    3 months ago

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TᵢG
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5.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    3 months ago

As I explained before, there are many problems to be fixed.   An administration picks its priorities.   We can disagree on whether they picked the right priorities, but if you think that an administration is remiss if it does not fix all problems then your reasoning is beyond naive and unrealistic.

It is difficult to say what Harris will do.   As I noted, she is liberal and thus one should expect liberal policies.   I will likely disagree with a number of her policies.  I expect to also endorse some of her policies too.

Regardless, the Harris-Walz team is energetic, presidential, youthful and I am convinced will do what it thinks is best for the USA rather than for themselves.    In contrast, the Trump-Vance team is led by the oldest nominee for PotUS in US history, is rabidly unpresidential, and has a negative doom & gloom fear-mongering campaign.   On top of that, Trump is a vindictive curmudgeon, malignant narcissist, pathological liar and is the only PotUS in US history to engage in fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement in an attempt to steal a US presidential election.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  George @5.1.6    3 months ago
removed for context

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.7    3 months ago

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TᵢG
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5.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.9    3 months ago
My post clearly used the word "any", not "all", so not clear on why you would think differently or imagine that is what I thought.

I was explaining why problems that existed four years ago were not fixed.    In short, an administration will necessarily select the problems to tackle.   This should be obvious.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.10    3 months ago
I was explaining why problems that existed four years ago were not fixed. 

You failed then.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.4    3 months ago
I recommend you pay closer attention to reality and put less credence in fantasy

Oh, I am paying attention to reality.  Hence why I made the statement.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.11    3 months ago

Then you do not understand that the USA faces myriad problem and that every administration has to pick the problems it will work on.   Thus at the end of every administration in US history there are always problems that remain.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.13    3 months ago
Then you do not understand that the USA faces myriad problem and that every administration has to pick the problems it will work on.

Pretending I don't understand the clearly obvious is a weak, unsupported argument.

Thus at the end of every administration in US history there are always problems that remain.

You keep stating the obvious which I am not even disputing.

Why?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago

Sure just like he did against Biden......................./S

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2    3 months ago

Trump always makes a fool out of himself because he always makes outrageous lies.   He did so during the debate (just look at the fact checking of same).   If Trump behaves the same way with Harris instead of Biden, chances are better than average that Harris will be cogent while Trump will engage in lies, attacks and other petulant behavior.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.1    3 months ago
Regardless,

There is also an equal chance that the nation will be treated to a word salad from Harris.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.2    3 months ago

The word salad nonsense has been shown repeatedly to be nothing but partisan hyperbole.   If you think Harris is only capable of word salads then you clearly are not paying any attention to her many speeches this past month.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.3    3 months ago
 If you think Harris is only capable of word salads then you clearly are not paying any attention to her many speeches this past month.

You think her reading a teleprompter rebuts that claim?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.3    3 months ago
The word salad nonsense has been shown repeatedly to be nothing but partisan hyperbole. 

Your repeated defense of Harris is noted, but the fact is that her word salads are documented and widely available for viewing.

If you think Harris is only capable of word salads then you clearly are not paying any attention to her many speeches this past month.

You shouldn't assume what I think. If you want to know, ask. 

I know when she is oft-script her tendency to toss a word salad is greatly enhanced. This is and should be clearly obvious.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.6  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.4    3 months ago

Unbelievable...........

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.3    3 months ago
The word salad nonsense has been shown repeatedly to be nothing but partisan hyperbole.

I recommend you pay closer attention to reality and put less credence in fantasy.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.4    3 months ago

Again, if you think that all she does in her speeches is read from a teleprompter then you are not paying attention.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.8    3 months ago
Again, if you think that all she does in her speeches is read from a teleprompter then you are not paying attention.

If you have never heard her word salads at times when she is off-script then you haven't been paying attention.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.8    3 months ago

Without the teleprompter, she is as bad as Biden.  Quite a team you support there.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.11  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.8    3 months ago

She should and DOES. Here is an example of off teleprompter...........

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.8    3 months ago
lyou are not paying attention.

Zero interviews and zero press conferences since being selected as the nominee by party bosses six weeks ago. Only scripted appearances. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.12    3 months ago
Zero interviews and zero press conferences since being selected as the nominee by party bosses six weeks ago

I'm paying attention to that, as it is rather relevant.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.2.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.12    3 months ago
Only scripted appearances.

Yep, Kamala can’t seem to stray from script and Donald can’t stay on one.. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    3 months ago

Fox News is about 20 times more prejudiced against Democrats than ABC is against Trump, the only one I can think of on ABC is noticeably anti-Trump is Stephanopolous. Fox has at least 10 hosts that are more biased than ABC anchors. 

Yesterday Tom Cotton completely steamrolled Jonathan Karl, hosting ABC This Week. Karl let him get away with everything Cotton wanted to do. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6    3 months ago
tton completely steamrolled Jonathan Karl, hosting ABC This Week.

 Karl was desperately carrying water for Harris and got steamrolled because Cotton had receipts and didn't let Karl get away with lying.   Karl couldn't be more in the bag for Harris if he wanted to be. It's just the facts got in Karl's way. 

 

 
 

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