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Judge in Trump's 'hush money' trial considers tossing felony conviction

  
Via:  Jeremy in NC  •  one week ago  •  22 comments

By:   Emily Crane Published

Judge in Trump's 'hush money' trial considers tossing felony conviction
The Manhattan judge who oversaw Donald Trump's hush-money criminal trial will now consider whether to toss the president-elect's historic felony conviction before he re-returns to the White House.

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The Manhattan judge who oversaw Donald Trump's "hush money" criminal trial is expected to announce next week if the president-elect's historic felony conviction will still stand.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan had already delayed sentencing by more than four months to come after the election — and gave himself until next Tuesday to decide if the conviction should be tossed.

Trump's overwhelming election win will further embolden his legal team "to make sure that sentencing never happens," CNN chief legal affairs correspondent Paula Reid noted late Wednesday.

"Here, they're going to argue to the judge that the sentencing should never happen because now that Trump is president-elect," Reid noted.

"They will say that he is entitled to the same constitutional protections as a sitting president and should be protected from state actors, and in this case, state prosecutors."

Trump, 78, faces up to four years in prison after being convicted of 34 counts of felony falsifying business records to cover up payments to porn star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 election.

Legal experts have already predicted Trump won't face hard time.

"Merchan doesn't have the stomach to imprison a former president or president-elect," former prosecutor Neama Rahmani said.

"Now that Trump has won, his criminal problems go away."


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    one week ago

Must not have been all that important of a case if the presiding judge is looking to toss the conviction.

Could it be that he doesn't have the top cover of the Democrats?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    one week ago

I dont approve, but I think he's doing it out of respect for the presidency. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    one week ago
I think he's doing it out of respect for the presidency. 

I think he's doing it to save his own cowardly ass.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.1    one week ago

Yeah, he could be fearing retribution.  We're going to see a lot of that in the coming months. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.3  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    one week ago
Yeah, he could be fearing retribution

It's called judicial review.  If the case was as legal as claimed, there would be no reason to toss it.

We're going to see a lot of that in the coming months. 

That's one opinion.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.3    one week ago
If the case was as legal as claimed, there would be no reason to toss it.

I believe the jury might dispute that.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.5  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    one week ago

It's not up to them now is it.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.5    one week ago

It's not up to them now is it.

Do you think that a president elect should be immune to criminal charges?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.7  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.6    one week ago

I never remotely indicated that. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.1    6 days ago
I think he's doing it to save his own cowardly ass.

I think he is doing it because he had full backing of high ranking democrats before the election and knew he could get away with all the bullshit he did, and he only wanted to make a name for himself in the high end democrat circles,  but since many of those same democrats will be unemployed in January, he knows none of that will come to fruition.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.7    6 days ago
I never remotely indicated that.

I never remotely claimed that.

You can tell questions by when what I write is followed by a question mark (?).  If I'd claimed that you did, it would have been followed by a period (.).

Now that I've explained the English language to you, are you going to answer the question???

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    one week ago
"Now that Trump has won, his criminal problems go away."

He doesnt believe in God but his prayers were answered. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago
He doesnt believe in God but his prayers were answered.

Avoiding criminal prosecution is the only reason Trump ran.  Well that and his overwhelming narcissism.

 
 
 
George
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3  George    one week ago

And this my pretend lawyers is why you are not a CONVICTED felon until you are sentenced.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3    one week ago

Does that mean because he won the election he is innocent ? 

LOL. This argument is so stupid. 

 
 
 
George
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3.1.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one week ago
Does that mean because he won the election he is innocent ?

That is an ignorant fucking comment/question.

LOL. This argument is so stupid.

Nobody made it except you.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    one week ago

The entire farce was a god send for Trump. Another example of how getting what you want is sometimes the worst thing for you, at least from the democrat's perspective.  They got their "conviction" and looked likes fools for prosecuting a political enemy on laughable charges.  It only made Trump more popular and probably sealed his nomination.  It no doubt cost Trump money and stress, but who knows if he could have won without it.

If Biden had pardoned Trump in 2021 and made it seem like Trump was getting special treatment and part of the swamp, it probably would have ended Trump's political career.  Instead, Democrats legitimized his outsider status. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    one week ago
"Here, they're going to argue to the judge that the sentencing should never happen because now that Trump is president-elect,"

So what? He’s a convicted felon. He should be sentenced. That’s our law. It doesn’t apply to him because he won an election? That’s bullshit. Where is that exception in the law? Plenty of elected officials have been convicted and sentenced.

"They will say that he is entitled to the same constitutional protections as a sitting president and should be protected from state actors, and in this case, state prosecutors."

Nothing about the New York case has anything to do with him being president. Such constitutional protections are irrelevant to this case.

Legal experts have already predicted Trump won't face hard time.

No. Some “legal experts” have predicted that. Others predict the opposite. Legal experts are not monolithic.

Again, his supporters don’t care that he broke the law. They just don’t want him held accountable for it. And this is the self proclaimed party of law and order. What a joke.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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5.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Tacos! @5    one week ago

“What a joke.”

Indeed. As we are supposedly on the doorstep of a “golden age”…

For our friends who like to consider themselves ‘christians’, revisit the verse in Ecclesiastes where we learn there is ‘nothing new under the sun…’

Less a golden age and more a rebirth of ‘the gilded age’,  where political corruption, increased income inequality, dangerous workplace environments, no concern for the environment, and blatant discrimination reign. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1    one week ago
ss a golden age and more a rebirth of ‘the gilded age’,  where political corruption

Yes, it is incredibly corrupt that a Democratic Prosecutor prosecuted the leader of the Republican  party using a statute no one had ever been convicted under ever before despite Hillary Clinton committing the exact same "crime" in the exact same jurisdiction. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    6 days ago

As long as you dont try to claim he is innocent. 

four court cases and no claims of "i didnt do it". 

Its all free on technicalities, immunities, and the ever popular "you're picking on me"

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.3  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    6 days ago
As long as you dont try to claim he is innocent. 

NOBODY claimed that.  It's how the charges were brought and the "conviction" was achieved that is in question.  And that has had the TDS driven anti-Trumpers triggered from the start.

 
 

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