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Bill Clinton Blames ' Media' For Hillary's 2016 Loss

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  2 weeks ago  •  26 comments

By:   David Gilmour (Mediaite)

Bill Clinton Blames ' Media' For Hillary's 2016 Loss
Bill Clinton blamed the "mainstream media" for Hillary Clinton's loss in the 2016 election to Trump over its focus on her use of a private email server.

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David GilmourDec 9th, 2024, 9:54 am Twitter share button

Former President Bill Clinton blamed the "mainstream media" for his wife Hillary Clinton's loss in the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump over its focus on her controversial use of a private email server for official correspondence during her time as Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

The saga of Hillary Clinton's emails dominated headlines during her tenure as a Democratic presidential candidate and first gained national attention in March 2015 when The New York Times reported that Clinton's private email setup at her home "may have violated federal requirements" and raised alarm among archivists and transparency advocates.

What followed was a years-long investigation, culminating in the FBI's 2016 conclusion that Clinton and her team had been "extremely careless" with classified information but that no criminal charges were warranted—a decision reaffirmed just days before Election Day. The controversy, however, cast a shadow over her campaign and became a flashpoint in a deeply polarized election cycle.

In an interview recorded Friday and aired on MSNBC on Monday, Bill Clinton took aim at all media outlets - "not just Fox!" - for making the email controversy the election's "biggest issue" during a ranging sit down with Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough.

Scarborough began by reading an extract from Clinton's new memoir Citizen, in which he described the 2016 election as the "darkest" period that left him "so angry" and prone to "outbursts of rage" for years afterward. Reflecting on what he'd written he said to Scarborough:

It's easier for us to know what happened in 2016 in some ways than it is what happened in 2024, in terms of all that. Because in 2016, you had two highly unusual things. First of all, the mainstream media told the American people repeatedly that the biggest issue was Hillary's emails. That's what they said, not just Fox! When in fact, even the Trump State Department said she neither sent nor received a single solitary email on her personal advice, marked classified, one. And two, she followed the rules as they then existed. The rules were changed after she left office. And yet the whole story was written as if she had done something hideous and then [former FBI director] James Comey made it worse.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    2 weeks ago

Sure, sure it did............/s.

Ever stop to think she was her own worst enemy? Of course not.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago
culminating in the FBI's 2016 conclusion that Clinton and her team had been "extremely careless" with classified information but that no criminal charges were warranted

Funny how opinions change depending on the party.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    2 weeks ago

“Funny how opinions change depending on the party.”

Less funny and more indicative of the world in which we find ourselves.

Partisan politics are inherently destructive and in their most extreme forms, where we find ourselves today, create an environment of mutually assured destruction. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1    2 weeks ago

Opinions can change, but facts are forever. What she did was wrong, and trying to cover it up is why the people didn't like the stink of the whole episode. Plus....she was just not likeable

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

Plus....she was just not likeable’

This was the primary reason

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
Plus....she was just not likeable

Initially that was the general census.  Then the Democrats started to pathetically attempt to cover up her mishandling of classified material and that was added to growing list of reasons not to vote for her.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

It's amazing how entitled Democrats like Clinton are with media.  They can't fathom stories not being framed to their demands. 

 
 
 
George
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4  George    2 weeks ago

FFS, she lost because she isn't likeable, the same reason Kamala lost, you can't tell people they are ignorant fascists and then say you want their vote.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.1  afrayedknot  replied to  George @4    2 weeks ago

“…you can't tell people they are ignorant fascists and then say you want their vote.”

And conversely, you can tell them you are for them, ignoring all evidence to the contrary, and contend there is a ‘mandate’ in putting forward a self-serving policy that has absolutely no consideration for the people who enabled the consequences… 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1    2 weeks ago

You're speaking in "what if"" and "maybe'" hypotheticals.

 Trump is still several weeks until taking over

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

I wonder how much Bill is collecting from the extended ‘blame everybody but Hillary’ tour

 
 
 
George
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4.1.3  George  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

It's amazing how trump is all powerful and democrats are just poor victims. Why would anyone vote for such a feckless group?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.1.4  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

“Trump is still several weeks until taking over”

Do you doubt the intentions of him instigating his oft stated agenda? And more telling, do you have any qualms? 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.5  bugsy  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1.4    2 weeks ago

We will see if your ‘predictions’ are true as he is being far more presidential……much less seen far more, than the current basement dweller and his cackling losing sidekick are visible. 
I wonder if Joe went ahead and ceded the office to Trump. Sure seems that way

 
 
 
squiggy
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4.1.6  squiggy  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1    2 weeks ago

Stated Claim: And conversely, you can tell them you are for them, ignoring all evidence to the contrary, and contend there is a ‘mandate’ in putting forward a self-serving policy that has absolutely no consideration for the people who enabled the consequences…

No Google fact-check information was found for claim: 'And conversely, you can tell them you are for them, ignoring all evidence to the contrary, and contend there is a ‘mandate’ in putting forward a self-serving policy that has absolutely no consideration for the people who enabled the consequences…'

Try expressing the claim in terms of a few strong keywords and avoid full sentences.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.1.7  afrayedknot  replied to  squiggy @4.1.6    2 weeks ago

“Try expressing the claim in terms of a few strong keywords and avoid full sentences.”

Jesus, I have never felt the need to express my opinion, as just an opinion, to fit some nebulous criteria. Take it or leave it, comment upon it, but opinions are subjective and if someone needs outside confirmation, they miss the entire point of this site.

Avoid a full sentence? strong keywords? Just how is one supposed to respond? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.8  Greg Jones  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1.4    2 weeks ago

"Do you doubt the intentions of him instigating his oft stated agenda? And more telling, do you have any qualms?

What parts of his agenda? He won't have time to get into any retribution issues. If all Republicans support his presidency, then real and positive progress should be made. But there are still some rogue establishment members of the Republican party in both Houses of Congress

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.1.9  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

“He won't have time to get into any retribution issues.”

Day one will be a nightmare. Four years will seem like an eternity. 

 
 
 
evilone
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5  evilone    2 weeks ago

And why should I care what Slick Willy has to say?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilone @5    2 weeks ago

Who said you had to?

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.1  evilone  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1    2 weeks ago
Who said you had to?

Sorry. I was assuming you had some motive to put it an opinion of old news by a has been. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilone @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

Actually, it is ongoing news. Note the date on the article. 12-9-2024 and still whining.

And I don't believe the article was directed at you. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.3  bugsy  replied to  evilone @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

For someone who doesn’t care you sure are showing otherwise.

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.4  evilone  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
Actually, it is ongoing news.

It's stupid. 

Note the date on the article.

Largely irrelevant. 

12-9-2024 and still whining.

So it's relevant to those who are either still whining, or those laughing at those still whining? If true it's a depressing commentary on our society. 

And I don't believe the article was directed at you. 

I am part of TNT, correct? But you're probably correct - the constant assignine partisan bickering is a waste of time...  Unless there is more to than just that going on here? Hopefully I'll ask the question one day and get a more substantive answer. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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5.1.5  afrayedknot  replied to  evilone @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

“Unless there is more to than just that going on here?”

Nothing more, nothing less.

Be grateful the usual suspects are conspicuously absent or it would be exponentially worse. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

Yeah, it's the media's fault.  Pay close attention, folks.  Bill Clinton is not claiming the media got the story wrong about the illegal basement email server.  Bill is blaming the media for covering the story.  And the story of Clinton's email server wasn't the only inconvenient news being reported.

Let's just ignore the official emails found on Anthony Weiner's laptop.  Let's just ignore the mishandling and coverup of Russia hacking the DNC computers.  Let's just ignore Clinton's involvement in the Steele dossier and pushing for a bogus FBI investigation.  Let's just ignore that Clinton spent more time talking to donors than voters.

Other than those few things, Hillary Clinton ran the perfect campaign and should have won the election.  (The United States really did dodge a bullet in 2016.)

 
 

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