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Sanctuary city mayor, police chief scold cops for assisting Border Patrol officers who asked for backup: ‘Against our policy’

  
Via:  Jeremy in NC  •  3 days ago  •  32 comments

By:   Chris Nesi

Sanctuary city mayor, police chief scold cops for assisting Border Patrol officers who asked for backup: ‘Against our policy’
Rochester city leaders scolded local cops for violating the city's sanctuary city policies after they responded to a request for backup from Border Patrol agents conducting a traffic stop.

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Rochester leaders scolded local cops for violating their sanctuary city policies after they responded to a request for backup from Border Patrol agents conducting a traffic stop.

Border Patrol asked for emergency police assistance on Monday after pulling over a van with an estimated eight people inside.

Rochester cops responded to the scene with lights and sirens, ordered the suspects out of the vehicle and helped put them in handcuffs, according to local WABC affiliate WHAM.

It was not immediately known why the van was stopped.

But the completely routine police response was enough to raise the ire of Democratic Rochester Mayor Malik Evans, who held a press conference on the incident Wednesday.

"The officers on the scene verbally directed the occupants to get out of the vehicle, and this is against our policy," he said.

"Our policy is crystal clear. City police officers do not help or participate in federal immigration activities," he added, noting he personally instructed Police Chief David Smith to remind every member of the force about the directive.

Smith, who also spoke at the press conference, threw his officers under the bus for responding to the call — as well as the Border Patrol agents who initiated the stop.

"From watching the body-worn camera footage, what is concerning to me is despite the fact that we were called, we went lights and sirens," he said.

"I see in the video a total lack of urgency on the part of multiple Border Patrol officers at the scene."

Smith then continued admonishing officers for following standard police procedure.

"We are not to be handcuffing subjects," he said. "We are not to be doing pat frisks on subjects, and we are absolutely not going to be detaining them or putting them into our cars."

The Rochester Police Locust Club union issued a press release defending the officers' actions and calling Evans' statements "a complete overreaction" to what happened.

"As with any law enforcement agency that indicates it has a critical situation in progress within the City of Rochester, officers responded under lights and sirens … expecting their fellow law enforcement officers to be in distress when they got there."

The union said the occupants of the van "were not complying with agents' request to exit the vehicle," which they eventually did "without resistance" when the local cops stepped in to help.

"The officers on scene asked no questions of the occupants about their immigration status or relevant documents. No force was used … Once the scene was secured, that ended RPD's involvement in the matter," the statement read.

"The Mayor's statements today about this incident represent a complete overreaction to what did (and did not) happen on Monday. The Locust Club members who responded did absolutely nothing wrong, other than to answer a call for help from another agency."

Rochester's sanctuary city resolution was first adopted in 1986 and reaffirmed in 2017, according to the outlet. The Rochester Police Department is prohibited — under General Order 501 — from enforcing federal immigration laws.


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 days ago
"Our policy is crystal clear. City police officers do not help or participate in federal immigration activities,"

So their policy isn't to enforce the law and provide mutual assistance?  This sanctuary shithole is worse than I thought.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    3 days ago
So their policy isn't to enforce the law and provide mutual assistance?

Immigration is federal only enforcement.  This has been long established.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    3 days ago

Federal and state law enforcement working together is long established practice.  Are you suggesting the police should not help a federal agency if they call for help?  What happens if they get hurt because of a lack of help.  Is that acceptable?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.2  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    3 days ago

What has also been long established is local law enforcement working with federal agencies.  I notice you left that part out.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.1    3 days ago
Federal and state law enforcement working together is long established practice.

Not with immigration.  That is optional for state, county, and local law enforcement.

Are you suggesting the police should not help a federal agency if they call for help?

Depends on what they are calling for help for.  Immigration round up turns violent?  Of course there are no law enforcement agencies that would not respond to an "officer needs help" situation.

However what is being denied is for the local law enforcement doing federal's job for them.  That type of request for help is purely optional for the local department.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.2    3 days ago
What has also been long established is local law enforcement working with federal agencies.  I notice you left that part out.

That's because you are trying to paint with a too wide brush.  The agencies working together is purely based on the situation, sometimes they do, sometimes they do not.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.5  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.3    3 days ago
Federal and state law enforcement working together is long established practice.
Not with immigration.

[] Depends on what they are calling for help for.

Sounds like you are suggesting that only certain laws should be enforced. Sorry, the days of picking and choosing what laws to enforce went out with Biden and his dumpster fire.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.3    3 days ago
Of course there are no law enforcement agencies that would not respond to an "officer needs help" situation.

From the article :Border Patrol asked for emergency police assistance .  The article also states it was a completely routine response.

What about emergency police assistance does not sound like officer needs help to you?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.7  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    3 days ago
That's because you are trying to paint with a too wide brush. 

Not at all.  I'm just not following the direction you are trying to take things.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    3 days ago

And they asked for some assistance from local law enforcement, who obliged and promptly left whey those LEO's had expended their needed assistance. Big fucking deal.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.8    3 days ago
Big fucking deal.

Only to those that may rather see ICE officers hurt than helped by local police.  A certain mayor comes to mind

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.10  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.5    3 days ago
Skirting the CoC [Split Personality]    
 "Violating your own red box rules is not a good look"

Comment doesn't violate RBR.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.11  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    3 days ago

So let’s say local law enforcement calls for assistance and ICE is in the area and ready to help. 
What would your response be if ICE says…..nope…not our job and a local cop gets killed?

My guess is you would blame Trump for the local cop getting killed. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @1.1.11    3 days ago
My guess is you would blame Trump for the local cop getting killed. 

Quite possible. 

I would also guess the mayor would not have an issue with it.  I mean a few less cops is a good thing in some liberal sanctuary shitholes, isn't it? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.5    3 days ago
Sounds like you are suggesting that only certain laws should be enforced.

Sounds like you didn't actually read my response.  Federal laws are outside local law enforcement's jurisdiction.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.6    3 days ago
From the article :Border Patrol asked for emergency police assistance .

Assistance with what?  Once again you refuse details.

What about emergency police assistance does not sound like officer needs help to you?

The fact that they requested it thru channels, AND if you'd bother to read the seeded article you'd see that this was not the case.  You are ignoring the facts presented in the article and attempting to add fictionalized accounts to support your claims.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.14    3 days ago

So what did I say that was incorrect?  They didn't ask for help or asking for help does not sound like asking for help?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.16  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.13    3 days ago
Sounds like you didn't actually read my response

Read it and responded.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.17  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.16    3 days ago

Pretty sad that we see many on the left pissy that local law enforcement asked for help fro the feds for something. 
They get pissy when a terrorist sympathizer gets picked up and held for deportation. 
They get pissy when ICE picks up ACTUAL illegal gang members and holds them for deportation. 
They get pissy when we get illegal criminals out of the country and sent to another country. 
It’s almost as if they are hoping these illegal criminals take control of this country

They get pissy when they defend illegals getting into the country and you ask them how many of them they have taken i to their home to take some financial burden off the taxpayer. 

What sick individuals many of them are.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.18  George  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.13    3 days ago
Federal laws are outside local law enforcement's jurisdiction.

So local law enforcement won't respond to a bank robbery? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.19  Ozzwald  replied to  George @1.1.18    3 days ago
So local law enforcement won't respond to a bank robbery?

That question is too ignorant to respond to, other than to state that it is too ignorant to respond to...

 
 
 
George
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1.1.20  George  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.19    3 days ago

So states will enforce some federal laws just not others, seems the left is a bit hypocritical on which federal laws they want to help enforce. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.21  Tacos!  replied to  George @1.1.18    3 days ago
So local law enforcement won't respond to a bank robbery? 

Bank robbery is actually a state crime under our basic system. It becomes a federal crime when the bank is insured by the FDIC or is part of the Federal Reserve System.

18 USC 2113 defines “bank” thus: 

(f) As used in this section the term “ bank ” means any member bank of the Federal Reserve System , and any bank, banking association, trust company, savings bank, or other banking institution organized or operating under the laws of the United States, including a branch or agency of a foreign bank (as such terms are defined in paragraphs (1) and (3) of section 1(b) of the International Banking Act of 1978 ), and any institution the deposits of which are insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    3 days ago

Nothing like a little virtue signaling from a dem mayor.

Hopefully the PD will continue to give him the middle finger and answer the call for help from any department in need.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    3 days ago

It’s legitimately hard to understand the craziness of the left and their hatred of ordinary Americans.  They’ll fight to the death to protect foreign child molesters here illegally but ask them to perform the most minimal acts possible to protect actual  Americans and they flip out. 

 
 
 
George
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4  George    3 days ago

The Feds should immediately end all funding and grants to the city and bar Rochester from AIFIS and CODIS. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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5  charger 383    3 days ago

Then Rochester gets no federal money 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    3 days ago

Police should respond if federal agents are having an emergency. It’s not clear from this story that they actually had an emergency, though. If they are abusing the emergency call just so they can get a little backup, then that’s bullshit. Federal agents should have sufficient resources to handle their own business under normal circumstances. Drawing local police away from their normal duties just to be a few more sets of hands could result in local agencies ignoring all calls for help from federal officers.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tacos! @6    3 days ago

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zuksam
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6.2  zuksam  replied to  Tacos! @6    3 days ago

There were eight people in the vehicle, and they were going to arrest all of them so they or any law enforcement officers would automatically call for backup. It isn't because something already happened it's because with so many people even if they were only going to arrest one person they would still be outnumbered and so they call for backup to prevent something from happening. I've seen a single cop pull over four guys in a car hundreds of times and they'll just sit there till backup arrives before doing anything.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  zuksam @6.2    3 days ago

If all they needed was more guys, why not call federal officers for backup? Local guys responding code 3 makes it seem like there was an actual emergency. I wonder where they got that impression?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7  Robert in Ohio    3 days ago

But I supposed if these guys request backup from the FBI or the DEA they would sure expect someone to come running and bail their asses out of trouble

 
 

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