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Robert in Ohio

Ancient Egyptian Wisdom for Modern Life

  
By:  Robert in Ohio  •  life choices  •  11 months ago  •  40 comments

Ancient Egyptian Wisdom for Modern Life
"The tongue of experience holds the most truth"

As many other cultures have done throughout time and   across the world , ancient Egyptian culture generated its fair share of proverbs. Rooted in a history that spans millennia, these proverbial gems have passed down wisdom through countless generations.

Many of these ancient proverbs are 100% applicable to the society we live in and the problems we face.  Here are a couple of my favorites.

As regards the "Entitlement Society" and what is owed to us.

"Good fortune will not happen to you: good fortune is given to him who seeks it."

or 

"The value of each man consists in what he does well."

And a couple of more recent figures have offered - 

"Success is getting what you want, happiness is wanting what you get",  W. P. Kinsella

"All happiness depends on courage and work",  Honoré de Balzac

Read the whole article at - Ancient Egyptian Wisdom for Modern Life | Inspiring Quotes

I look forward to feedback and ideas on this subject

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JohnRussell
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1  JohnRussell    11 months ago
As regards the "Entitlement Society" and what is owed to us. "Good fortune will not happen to you: good fortune is given to him who seeks it."

Given by who? 

the "Entitlement Society" 

Capitalism creates opportunity and wealth, and it also creates poverty.   We should just admit that and stop pretending that a 'meritocracy' applies to everyone.  Since there will always be poor there must always be a welfare state. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    11 months ago
s opportunity and wealth, and it also creates poverty

SO there is no poverty without capitalism?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    11 months ago

We live in a capitalist country. What some other system does is irrelevant. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    11 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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1.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    11 months ago

You claimed capitalism creates poverty. So without capitalism, poverty doesn't exist?  

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George
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1.1.4  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.3    11 months ago

You underestimate the moderation.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.3    11 months ago
You claimed capitalism creates poverty. So without capitalism, poverty doesn't exist?   The moderator must have accidently deleted this. There's no way he can be ignorant enough to believe this is trolling.  

I'm sure Robert will be happy to see whats happened to his seed. 

I did not say that ONLY capitalism causes poverty, for christs sake.  Why do we have to go through this crap on every article? 

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.6  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    10 months ago
We live in a capitalist country.

That's a common misconception. Its actually a mixed system! 

There are some Capitalistic aspects to our system-- but also some Socialistic aspects (for example, Social Security).

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.7  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    10 months ago

"We live in a capitalist country. What some other system does is irrelevant. "

John - that is simplistic and dismissive - one cannot take a position and then dismiss challenges to that position as irrelevant due to inaccurate and arbitrary assertions.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.8  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Krishna @1.1.6    10 months ago

Krishna - can you not see that Social Security (funded by employers and employees) is the ultimate of a capitalist effort

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.9  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    10 months ago
"Why do we have to go through this crap on every article? "
Perhaps because you and others make a grand statement of the absolute and dismiss any challenges to that statement - the idea is to discuss the aspects and differing views of a point rather than to dismiss the positions of others and claim absolute accuracy for your position.
One can be "right" without being "condescending" to those that express a differing view.  I am sure you agree with that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.7    10 months ago
John - that is simplistic and dismissive

No its not, its accurate. How is the type of economic system they have in China or India or anywhere else relevant to whether capitalism creates poverty in America ?   And I never said that only capitalism causes poverty elsewhere.  I am talking about here, and the idea that everyone can succeed. A small percentage of "failure" is baked into our system and cannot be eliminated , ever. That is why we need a welfare state. Should individuals do all they can to get off welfare ? Of course, but there will always be people who need help. You are the one who brought up the "entitlement society".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.9    10 months ago

Oh, bs. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.12  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.10    10 months ago

You are the one who brought up the "entitlement society".

John Indeed I did, but I brought it up as being a bad thing.  No one should feel that society, the government, of their neighbors (ironically those three things are actually one entity) owes them anything that they do not or are not willing to work for - I know it is not a popular position in the contry these dys but that is how I was raised.                         

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.13  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.11    10 months ago
Oh, bs.

Now that is the intellectual input and insight that you provide so often - do not discuss an issue, simply dismiss it if it does not agree with your narrow view

Thanks for sharing that wisdom

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.12    10 months ago

Having a "welfare state" is the price that has to be paid for having a society where people can become billionaires. 

You can disagree, but that is still the truth of it. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.13    10 months ago

I AM discussing the issue. The bs is you telling me that I am not. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.14    10 months ago

What, in your opinion, is preventing some folks from becoming financially independent?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.14    10 months ago
Having a "welfare state" is the price that has to be paid for having a society where people can become billionaires. 

Exactly, tit for tat, yin and yang, quid pro quo...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.17    10 months ago

Looks like the idea is to punish successful people and reward those not as successful, and, by God, income redistribution is the way to make everyone equally poor.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.18    10 months ago

ROFL.  Please tell us how successful people can be made poor. This should be good. 

 
 
 
George
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1.1.20  George  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.18    10 months ago
income redistribution is the way to make everyone equally poor.

The rich have the ability to relocate, just ask California or any of the other Blue states that are seeing an exodus of tax payers.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.19    10 months ago

Perhaps you may have heard of something called taxes in your time on earth.

I asked you earlier what is preventing people from becoming financially independent but somehow you overlooked that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  George @1.1.20    10 months ago

Aren't California, New York and Illinois all facing budget deficits despite their high taxes?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    10 months ago
not say that ONLY capitalism causes poverty, for christs sake. 

But again, you said it creates poverty, which illustrates your backwards approach to economics.  Capitalism doesn't create poverty. Poverty is the default standard of human existence. Capitalism has done more to eradicate poverty than any other system in human history.   

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.22    10 months ago

Perhaps, but you won't see any homeless there.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.25  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.23    10 months ago

What he is unable to say is how capitalism creates poverty.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.26  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.23    10 months ago

There are numerable articles and books that describe how capitalism creates poverty. I dont have time right now but I may post something later.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.27  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.26    10 months ago

What is preventing folks from becoming financially independent?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.26    10 months ago
capitalism creates poverty

Exactly, if we had family farms and small craft shops and used the barter system instead of money, poverty would be eliminated.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.29  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.27    10 months ago

I can answer that as JR is really busy.

Capitalist plutocrats and lucky running dog lackeys like myself, steal the profits extorted from the sweating brows of the oppressed workers, to make people poor and politically powerless. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.30  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.14    10 months ago

You can disagree, but that is still the truth of it. 

A perfect example of what I mean - what you the present is not the "truth of it", but rather your opinion on the subject.  And many do disagree with you.  I am 100% in favor of a "hand up" to those that need it as they "learn to walk" and to "ride the bike", but that hand does not remain forever. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.31  Texan1211  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.30    10 months ago

Some folks would like for you to pay for the bike, teach them how to ride it, maintain it for them, and then will eventually complain that you didn't buy them a car instead.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @1    10 months ago
Capitalism creates opportunity and wealth, and it also creates poverty. 

Unlike every other system of government . . .

/sarc

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.2.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Krishna @1.2    10 months ago

Krishna

Well said - Chruchill (I believe) said Democracy is the worst possible kind of government except for all the rest of the options.  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2  author  Robert in Ohio    10 months ago

The point I was trying to raise for discussion was that people will succeed or not in our society, but that only those that want to succeed and work hard to succeed will do so.  There are many people who need only a hand up to achieve success, but there are also people who would rather get by with a handout than get a hand up and have to work hard for success.

 
 
 
George
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2.1  George  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    10 months ago

I couldn't agree more with this statement, it is also has to do with personal choices, can you differ instant gratification for long term desires? Do you have the self-control and self-respect to avoid drug use?  Alcohol to excess? and are you smart enough to better yourself? and take responsibility for your actions or is it always somebody else's fault you failed? Failure is part of life, giving up or blaming others for those failures shouldn't be. that is the difference in successful people, they persevered.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2.1.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  George @2.1    10 months ago

George

Very well put

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    10 months ago

IMO, that's correct to a certain point. There will always be people who are held back from "success" due to their intellect or lack thereof. I'm not talking about people who are too lazy to educate themselves. We've all known people who, shall I dare say it, slow. They can't grasp certain concepts because they have a low IQ. And there are people who are born physically disabled or become disabled. Their success rate is either slowed or slowed down.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    10 months ago

The only thing worse than being oppressed by capitalism is not being oppressed by capitalism.