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Something the government did well

  
By:  Sparty On  •  Government  •  2 years ago  •  13 comments

Something the government did well

Renewal of a Michigan CPL

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Sparty On
PhD Principal
1  author  Sparty On    2 years ago

Basically how this works in Michigan for renewals.   You go into the county clerks office, pay your $115, fill out the form ..... more or less a ATF form 4473, they send it in to the Michigan State Police to background check if there are any disqualifying issues since last license.

I got my new license in less than a week.   Thats the way it should be but i'm just surprised it worked that way.   Last time it took nearly three weeks.

Color me pleasantly surprised

 
 
 
TTGA
Professor Quiet
1.1  TTGA  replied to  Sparty On @1    2 years ago

Mine is coming up again in 2020 and should be just about as fast.  Sometimes the time varies depending on the county you're in, but it's always fast.

Did you notice that the part on the application that said that you should bring a passport quality photo is no longer operative?  They (at least in Ionia County) are now equipped to take the photo and emboss it directly onto the card.

 
 
 
TTGA
Professor Quiet
1.1.1  TTGA  replied to  TTGA @1.1    2 years ago

You also have to certify that you have reviewed the laws regarding the use of deadly force (they give you an up to date CD) and that you have had at least one range session in the last 6 months.  That part is no problem.  Mine renews in October so I have the whole summer to go to the range.  Sometimes I think that, between the range and fishing, I don't do anything else.  I do spend a lot of time there, though; not so much for my own practice but to teach my grandchildren that a fast, loud noise has never yet been known to kill a rabbit.

 
 
 
Sparty On
PhD Principal
1.1.2  author  Sparty On  replied to  TTGA @1.1.1    2 years ago

Yeah since it’s already tied to your drivers license they figured out why not just us that picture and info.    Pretty seamless now

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @1    2 years ago

Check your spelling in  your title.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
PhD Principal
1.2.1  author  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    2 years ago

Thank you for the heads up

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Quiet
2  livefreeordie    2 years ago

Thankfully I choose to live in open carry states that still respect the right to keep AND carry arms. Government has no business authorizing or licensing a fundamental right

 
 
 
TTGA
Professor Quiet
2.1  TTGA  replied to  livefreeordie @2    2 years ago

Michigan has open carry with no need for a license.  Only concealed carry is licensed.  Even States with Constitutional carry like Vermont issue licenses to their residents if the person requests it.  That's because the resident might wish to visit another State that has reciprocity with the Constitutional carry State but needs the paperwork to comply with their laws.

Far as open carry is concerned, that's fine for those who like it.  It does not deter anyone who would attack you.  They would just shoot you in the back of the head and then steal your pistol and your wallet from your body.   I prefer to retain the element of surprise.  If the first time an assailant knows that I'm armed is when he sees the muzzle flash, that gives me a clean two to three second edge.  If you do it right, that means that you can take someone who is actually holding a gun on you.  I also don't believe in talking once it's time to shoot.  If someone threatens me with a weapon, the decision to pull the trigger has already been made before I ever touch the piece.

 
 
 
Sparty On
PhD Principal
2.2  author  Sparty On  replied to  livefreeordie @2    2 years ago

i hear what your saying but honestly have no problem with CPL program as long as they don’t make it to restrictive.    Basically if you can successfully purchase a weapon by filling out a form 4473 you get the CPL.

works for me

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Quiet
2.2.1  livefreeordie  replied to  Sparty On @2.2    2 years ago

I understand.  I just feel that you should not have to have a license for a fundamental right. Licensing means the government can take away what it gives

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Quiet
3  charger 383    2 years ago

I don't think you should have to pay for it, It is a numbered right

We hear some complaining about voter ID and there should be no charge for an ID to vote, well the same applies here.   

 
 
 
Sparty On
PhD Principal
3.1  author  Sparty On  replied to  charger 383 @3    2 years ago

Interesting, i agree.   I also suspect most of the people who have a problem with free voter ID's would have a problem with free CPL's.

And vice versa.

Such is the polarized world we live in today.

 
 
 
Sparty On
PhD Principal
3.1.1  author  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @3.1    2 years ago

Messed that up.   It should read:

Interesting, i agree.   I also suspect most of the people who don't have a problem with free voter ID's would have a problem with free CPL's.

And vice versa.

Such is the polarized world we live in today.