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Bill Barr Says He Suspected Trump's Election Fraud Claims Were 'Bullsh-t' From The Start

  
Via:  Trout Giggles  •  3 years ago  •  46 comments

By:   Jemima McEvoy (Forbes)

Bill Barr Says He Suspected Trump's Election Fraud Claims Were 'Bullsh-t' From The Start
Though he ultimately did speak out, the former attorney general nonetheless did not publicly dispel the lies for a number of weeks.

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Topline


In his first public comments about his break from Donald Trump following the presidential election, former Attorney General Bill Barr says in an interview published Sunday by The Atlantic that he was skeptical of the ex-president's election fraud claims long before he publicly dispelled them and green-lighted a Justice Department probe, which he claimed he did in part to help him stand up to Trump.

Attorney General William Barr arrives to testify before the Senate Appropriations Committee in the ... [+] Dirksen Senate Office Building on April 10, 2019 in Washington, DC.

Key Facts


Barr, who was widely considered one of Trump's closest allies throughout his time in office, said he thought the election fraud claims were "bullsh-t," according to an interview conducted by ABC News' Jon Karl that appears in The Atlantic.

"My suspicion all along was that there was nothing there," Barr said, noting he also personally looked into several of Trump's claims—including supposed "ballot dumps" in Detroit—which he quickly found not to be true.

Nonetheless, in addition to his own search, Barr green-lighted a Department of Justice probe into the lies, giving them a veneer of validity, before publicly declaring there was no widespread voter fraud nearly a month after the election., in a Dec. 1 interview with the Associated Press.

Though Barr publicly described the fraud claims in November 2020 as "substantial allegations" that could "potentially impact the outcome" of the election," he asserts in the new interview that he actually allowed prosecutors to investigate so he would have evidence to show Trump when he ultimately had to confront him.

The ex-attorney general also said he was under mounting pressure to dispel the lies from top Justice Department officials and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who was concerned Trump would mess up the GOP's chances in the runoff elections in Georgia and deemed Barr "the only one who can do it" (an account McConnell confirmed with The Atlantic ).

Crucial Quote


"My attitude was: It was put-up or shut-up time," Barr said of when he finally came out against Trump. "If there was evidence of fraud, I had no motive to suppress it. But my suspicion all the way along was that there was nothing there. It was all bullshit."

Surprising Fact


The article also details the conversation between Trump and Barr that followed his bombshell Associated Press interview. Barr recalled an angry Trump asking: "How the f-ck could you do this to me? Why did you say it?" "You must hate Trump. You must hate Trump," the ex-president then said, according to Barr's account.

Key Background


Barr's departure from the Justice Department was announced two weeks after he publicly contradicted Trump. According to The Atlantic , it was Barr's decision to leave (representatives for Trump did not immediately respond to a request from Forbes to confirm this account) . Though his comments were critical in slaying the conspiracy theory of a stolen election, the weeks of silence from him and other top Trump officials allowed these false claims to fester and contributed to still lingering-disinformation. Lawmakers have also cited the entertaining of election fraud lies as the cause of the deadly riots at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

Tangent


The interviews with Barr were conducted in the spring for Karl's upcoming book, "Betrayal," which is slated to explore the aftermath of the presidential election. The book is set to be released in November of this year.

Further Reading


"William Barr Speaks" (The Atlantic)

"Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud" (The Associated Press)

"Attorney General Bill Barr Will Leave Office Next Week" (Forbes)

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Trout Giggles
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1  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 years ago
The article also details the conversation between Trump and Barr that followed his bombshell Associated Press interview. Barr recalled an angry Trump asking: "How the f-ck could you do this to me? Why did you say it?" "You must hate Trump. You must hate Trump," the ex-president then said, according to Barr's account.

My respect for the former AG just went up a notch

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

he'll never be able to climb out of that toilet he so willfully dove into.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1    3 years ago

No, he won't, that's for sure. I understand he's trying to retrieve his reputation but even this isn't going to cut it

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    3 years ago

autocrats always leave such nice legacies for their family members,... that live...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    3 years ago

No, he won't, that's for sure. I understand he's trying to retrieve his reputation but even this isn't going to cut it

I'm sure his only reason for not running with the fraud claim was purely selfish. 

He knew there was 0 evidence for it, and he would end up in the same situation as Giuliani.  He also knew that Trump had lost the election, so his chance for a pardon had also disappeared.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

Why does trumpturd speak in the third person so often?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    3 years ago

Who knows? Ego? I do know he likes to use the royal "we" a lot, too

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    3 years ago

he's speaking for the 2 BB's and a tiny mushroom huddled in his tighty whiteys

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.3  Veronica  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    3 years ago

eiwwwww - now that image is stuck in my head - thanks.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Veronica @1.2.3    3 years ago

2 beans and a vienna sausage?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    3 years ago

Thanks for the guffaw!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.6  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    3 years ago

Even comparing it to a vienna sausage is too generous.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.6    3 years ago

jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif I think that's one of the reasons whatshisname is so angry and impotent all the time - he's been cheated!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.8  Veronica  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    3 years ago

That is no better.  

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.9  Veronica  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.7    3 years ago

I think it is his female companions were the ones that were cheated.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  Veronica @1.2.9    3 years ago

Yeah and Marla Maples said that he was the best lover she ever had.  She must not have gotten around much.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.11  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    3 years ago

He must have had some damn fine tongue action....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.12  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @1.2.8    3 years ago

He's on a roll....

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.13  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.12    3 years ago

Unlike Trump who would get swallowed by a roll????  

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.14  Veronica  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    3 years ago

I never quite understood Marla.... especially after the way he has treated their daughter.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.15  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @1.2.13    3 years ago

DSKI used to do that. He called them rim shots when someone said something particularly funny

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.11    3 years ago

Do you think such a selfish turd like him would do that?  I'm sure he would demand Marla do the deed though to him.  

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.17  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.15    3 years ago

It is effective to get the point across that it is a "funny".

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.18  Veronica  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.16    3 years ago

Oh god, please stop - now that is in my head along with his beans and vienna sausage - damn - I need a drink.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.19  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.16    3 years ago

Then she must have been a sheltered virgin when she met him, coz you're right, I can't imagine him doing any woman a favor

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.20  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @1.2.18    3 years ago

OOOOO....we know which buttons to push now! LOL!

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.21  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.20    3 years ago

Oh you would, wouldn't you......

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.22  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @1.2.21    3 years ago

It's Dev's fault. He's a bad influence

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.23  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.22    3 years ago

I can see that.  He is sooo bad.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.24  Tessylo  replied to  Veronica @1.2.23    3 years ago

How about we all punish him?

What's your pleasure dev?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.11    3 years ago

I bet it was in the prenup.  

 
 
 
Veronica
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1.2.26  Veronica  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.24    3 years ago

Make him look at pictures of beans & vienna sausage?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.27  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.24    3 years ago

We have to get permission from Sister Mary Agnes first

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  Veronica @1.2.26    3 years ago

"I bet it was in the prenup."

"Make him look at pictures of beans & vienna sausage?"

No, you silly goose!  Saying he was the best lover she ever had.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.29  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.27    3 years ago

Makes me think of this Rhianna song for some reason . . .

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

My respect for the former AG just went up a notch

So, 1 notch up still means he is still eyebrows deep in his own shit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3    3 years ago

yeah...pretty much

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     3 years ago

He's trying to save what little is left of his reputation. 

It's really got Trump's attention since he went on the attack against Barr for those comments.

 
 
 
Veronica
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3  Veronica    3 years ago
It was put-up or shut-up time,"

I think he was a little late on that.  AND he should have been more vocal as the lies continued leading up to Jan. 6.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    3 years ago

A certain NT conservative once declared that Barr would go down as the greatest US Attorney General in history.  I believe Trump once said something similar. 

I guess those thoughts are now inoperative. 

 
 
 
Veronica
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4.1  Veronica  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago

I can just hear them screaming "RETRACT!!!! RETRACT!!!!!"

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @4.1    3 years ago

More like...

"You're putting words in my mouth"

"You're taking things out of context"

"I never said that"

 
 
 
Veronica
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4.1.2  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    3 years ago

I hear that here so often.  

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    3 years ago

What was his first clue? He knew and didn't care...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6  Tessylo    3 years ago

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Hal A. Lujah
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7  Hal A. Lujah    3 years ago

And this is a man who knows a little sumpin sumpin about bullshit.

 
 

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