Liz Cheney: Donald Trump's meeting with the Taliban "set all this in motion" | Salon.com
By: Leah Foreman (Salon)
there she goes telling the truth again, the thumpers and trumpster faithful aren't going to like that...
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Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., spoke on "The Brian Kilmeade Show" about the devolving situation in Afghanistan and appeared to lay some of the blame on the Trump administration.
"The fact that Mike Pompeo was the first Secretary of State to meet with the Taliban, the fact that they were considering inviting the Taliban to Camp David on 9/11 -- that set this all in motion," Liz Cheney said of former President Donald Trump and his administration.
She continued to say that she, as well as other ranking members of the party, were told by the former president and Pompeo that "we were going to renounce the Taliban, we were going to renounce Al-Qaeda...none of that happened."
As the well-known war hawk warned in early 2020, as the Trump administration left the Afghan government out of negotiations with the Taliban, "Any deal that the United States would contemplate entering into with the Taliban should be made public in its entirety." The peace agreement, she warned, may be lopsided in the Taliban's favor without a verification mechanism. "I've expressed my serious concerns about the lack of verification mechanism, about the commitment and the agreement that we would go to zero and primarily about the fact that what we have here are a number of promises by the Taliban."
She continued: "Many of them are promises that have been made before, and I think that the decisions about American troop levels in Afghanistan have to be made based on America's national security interests, not based on empty promises from the Taliban and an agreement that doesn't have any disclosed verification mechanism."
On Monday, however, after Afghan President Ashraf Ghani fled the country, Cheney still laid the ultimate blame on the Democrat currently occupying the White House. "What we are seeing today absolutely is the responsibility of Joe Biden."
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first of many foreign policy time bombs previously planted and set to detonate by trump and his accomplices
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But I have a question-- why do you think people here also do the opposite-- by continually comment on seeds by some of the MAGA-lunatics?
Why do some so-called "Progressives" spend so much time trying to keep the MAGA craziness on the frot page?
What to do, what to do, what to do - I know - push it on down the road for the next guy.
Liz Cheney is such a fucking TDS driven imbecile.
Who the fuck else were we going to negotiate our withdrawal with? It was the Taliban or nothing. The worthless weak corrupt Afghan government would have been useless at any negotiations with the Taliban. Their backbone lasted as long as the US troop presence was there and money was filling the coffers. The second one was gone those in power used the other to flee the country. Seems they had more brains than Biden; whose utter disconnect from reality should have him under professional observation for job fitness.
Think that Biden didn't know what was in the deal, it has only been out since Feb 2020? Think he couldn't have at least attempted to renegotiate it or void it if it was that bad? Biden chose to do nothing outside of unilaterally extending the withdrawal date to 8/31; pretending there wouldn't be any consequences. His administration is once colossal all consuming blunder.
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Wouldn't the government of that country (Afghanistan) want a say?
It's their country!!!
Renegotiate with the Taliban? Policy says that we don't negotiate with terrorists.
So you're saying that leaving that pit of never ending war is doing nothing?
That is utterly disconnected from reality. Donald Trump should not have EXCLUDED the Afghan government from proper negotiations of withdrawal. Because how can you properly withdraw without ENSURING your friends are in whatever probable and BEST position they can be in?
I don't know what is wrong with the Afghan president (incompetence?) or the Afghan 'forces" (collusion with Taliban?), but it is most surely better we find it out now than to be there decades longer while they 'sponge' and "rest on their laurels" depending on the U.S.A and the U.N. to be their sole military 'arm.'
No this problem appears to rest on Afghan soldiers and leaders who do not have the fortitude or esprit de corps to fight and die (if need be) for Afghanistan: The Taliban seem to be willing to do just that!
Well one thing is obvious: that they suddenly realized that the U.S. no longer backed them...when Trump decided to negotiate with the Taliban-- and deliberately left the Afghan gov't out of the negotiations!!!
And yet-- we never agreed to end WWII by trying to negotiate with Nazi Germany...nor Imperial Japan.
(IIRC Nazi Germany wanted to negotiate with us-- they wanted a negotiated compromise with the U.S.
(But of course FDR refused-- he insisted on nothing but Unconditional Surrender").
Was FDR's approach right?
Or do you think Trump's negotiated with the Taliban the best way?
(And of course that was a party deal-- Trump deliberately refused to let the Afghan gov't be part of the negotiations...and you know how that made them feel!
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Liz, you clearly line out how trmp made all of this worse...and then blame Biden entirely?????
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Why do you so dislike Liz Cheney?
Why disregard what she said?
(After all, she is a Republican-- and a very Conservative one at that!!!)