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To keep immigrants from fleeing, Florida GOP focus on immigration law loopholes : NPR

  
Via:  Kavika  •  last year  •  23 comments

By:   Vanessa Romo (NPR)

To keep immigrants from fleeing, Florida GOP focus on immigration law loopholes : NPR
Republican lawmakers in Florida are scrambling to convince established immigrant workers who already have jobs to stay, while making it inhospitable for newly arrived migrants.

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Florida lawmakers say SB 1718, a new anti-immigration law set to take effect on July 1, was written to scare migrants from moving to the state. Now, they're trying to convince people to stay. Lynne Sladky/AP hide caption

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Florida lawmakers say SB 1718, a new anti-immigration law set to take effect on July 1, was written to scare migrants from moving to the state. Now, they're trying to convince people to stay.

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Florida Republicans who voted to pass the state's imminent anti-immigration law are trying to curb a potentially disastrous mass exodus of undocumented residents by touting the legislation's many "loopholes."

GOP Rep. Rick Roth, a third generation farmer, told NPR on Tuesday that state Senate Bill 1718, which goes into effect on July 1, was designed to "scare migrants." But he admitted that he and his colleagues were unprepared for the destabilization it would cause among the state's more established immigrant communities.

Roth and a handful of other Republicans, including state representatives Alina Garcia and Juan Fernandez-Barquin, are scrambling to allay fears of job losses or deportation, which they say are already driving workers out of the state.

"It's very dangerous for agriculture. We desperately need more legal workers and this is going to make it worse," he warned.

Among the legislation's many provisions is a new mandate for all businesses with 25 or more employees to run new hires through E-Verify, a database that tracks whether individuals are legally able to work in the U.S.

It also limits social services for undocumented immigrants, allocates millions more tax dollars to expand DeSantis' migrant relocation program, and requires hospitals that get Medicaid dollars to ask for a patient's immigration status. Another provision makes it a human smuggling felony to transport an immigrant who has not been "inspected" by authorities into Florida. The latter is striking deep fear among mixed-status families who may travel across state lines together.

But by delving into the bill's details in public forums, Roth said, he hopes to persuade long-time immigrant residents who already have jobs not to flee the state because the law "is not as bad as you heard."

He added: "The bill really has a lot of loopholes in it that gives you comfort. And the main purpose of the bill is to deter people from coming and to tighten the enforcement in the future."

Had the bill been intended to be fully enforced, it would have included funding for enforcement, according to Roth. "So that's why I'm trying to tell people that it's more of a political bill than policy."

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During a faith-based event addressing the implications of the new law on Monday, Roth was captured on video urging attendees not to leave the state despite the bill's intimidating language.

"This bill is 100 percent supposed to scare you," Roth said. "I'm a farmer and the farmers are mad as hell. We are losing employees that are already starting to move to Georgia and other states. It's urgent that you talk to all your other people and convince them that you have resources, state representatives, other people that can explain the bill to you."


State Rep. Alina Garcia starts by saying she came unprepared, admits the bill is meant to "scare people from coming to Florida" and irresponsibly lies and says the anti-immigrant law has "no teeth." She should have prepared by actually reading the bill she voted for. https://t.co/LzsV2qgG0Fpic.twitter.com/yHTxNArAR4
— Thomas Kennedy (@tomaskenn) June 5, 2023

At the same event, Rep. Garcia, a Cuban immigrant who arrived in the U.S. as a 2-year-old, said the new law has already "done its purpose" of preventing new arrivals across the state.

"This bill really doesn't have any teeth," she added.

Neither representative addressed questions aboutwhat undocumented workers might do if they were to get laid off from an existing job after the law goes into effect.

When asked about provisions in the bill that would make it a felony for mixed-status families to travel into Florida together, Roth suggested it would be unlikely that anyone would be charged.

"I think people are are extrapolating the situation into the worst case scenario," he said.

Garcia and Fernandez-Barquin did not immediately respond to NPR's requests for comment.

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Kavika
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1  seeder  Kavika     last year

LOL, yes it's true the GOP are encouraging illegals to keep breaking the newest DeSantis law. 

You cannot make this shit up. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1    last year

xenophobes apparently have a difficult time drafting coherent legislation...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

It seems that the GOP could screw up a one-car funeral.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.2  SteevieGee  replied to  Kavika @1    last year

Seems like a clear violation of the 14th to me. 

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
2  evilone    last year
...it's more of a political bill than policy.

Big Ron D is the Great White Savior and if you are afraid of the brown hoards overwhelming the boarders of FL you should send Big Ron D all your money for his Presidential Campaign. This message was brought to you by Big Ron D and Friends Afraid of the Brown Hoards.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  evilone @2    last year

LMAO

DeSantis loves to say ''Florida is where woke goes to die'' I'm sure that that will be changed to ''Florida is where GOP intelligence is dead''..

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
2.1.1  evilone  replied to  Kavika @2.1    last year

I suppose this depend on how well the current and impending court cases go. Most look to be overturned or rendered toothless. I see so much virtue signaling and very little action from almost all of these controversial bills. Those that do stick have the potential of pissing off the electorate enough to vote a few GOP out of jobs. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  evilone @2.1.1    last year

DeSantis has spent to date over $17 million in tax payer monies on his laws that require fighting numerous lawsuits and the Disney one is just getting started which the state is on the hook for $1200 hour in legal fees. 

Yesterday a federal judge shot down his anti-trans bill.

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — A federal judge delivered a stinging rebuke to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Republican-controlled Legislature over rules and a new state law that banned minors from receiving “puberty blockers” and other types of gender-affirming care.

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.3  evilone  replied to  Kavika @2.1.2    last year

I don't think enough voters are aware of how much bad laws cost a state to litigate and most of these lawmakers are lawyers. They have to know they will be challenged and often overturned. I suppose as long as they continue to get re-elected and they get to live fat on their campaign donor cash its justified.

EDIT: I gotta run. I'll be out of town today getting WiFi access points installed in a new office... 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
2.1.4  SteevieGee  replied to  evilone @2.1.3    last year
I don't think enough voters are aware of how much bad laws cost a state to litigate

The states should take it out of their campaign coffers.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3  Trout Giggles    last year

They have nobody to work the orchards. What did they think was going to happen when they started all this anti-immigrant stuff?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year
They have nobody to work the orchards. What did they think was going to happen when they started all this anti-immigrant stuff?

That would require thinking which for the GOP is Florida is dead, Trout.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

gee, I guess they didn't think of that until after they passed the law. maybe they can get all the people they kicked off medicaid, all the people that get welfare, and all the kids that need daycare or school lunches to pick fruit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.2    last year

don't give those slimy bastards any ideas

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.2.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @3.2    last year

Or they could get their dead asses out of the chair and do some field work. 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
3.3  SteevieGee  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

The lawn at the Governor's mansion is getting awfully long.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.3.1  cjcold  replied to  SteevieGee @3.3    last year
The lawn

Possibly a few immigrant sheep could be employed.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.3.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  SteevieGee @3.3    last year

Ha, I'm sure that DeSantis won't notice since he is traveling outside the state of Florida regularly.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  cjcold @3.3.1    last year

they could turn some horses loose on that grass...that would be fun

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    last year

"Among the legislation's many provisions is a new mandate for all businesses with 25 or more employees to run new hires through E-Verify, a database that tracks whether individuals are legally able to work in the U.S. It also limits social services for undocumented immigrants, allocates millions more tax dollars to expand DeSantis' migrant relocation program, and requires hospitals that get Medicaid dollars to ask for a patient's immigration status. Another provision makes it a human smuggling felony to transport an immigrant who has not been "inspected" by authorities into Florida." 

Can anyone care to explain why this such a bad thing?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @4    last year
Can anyone care to explain why this such a bad thing?

You should address your question to Florida state GOP reps Garcia and Fernandez-Barquin.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Kavika @4.1    last year

""I think people are are extrapolating the situation into the worst case scenario," he said."

Yep...no mass exodus happening now nor likely in the future.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    last year
""I think people are are extrapolating the situation into the worst case scenario," he said."

First thing is ''I think'' he has no idea at all of what is happening, and if he believes that then why the concern and him saying there are a lot of loop holes?

 
 

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