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"Clear and brazen attack": Federal judge torches "Florida's latest assault on the right to vote"

  
Via:  Kavika  •  last year  •  74 comments


"Clear and brazen attack": Federal judge torches "Florida's latest assault on the right to vote"
 

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A federal judge on Monday blocked a provision of a recently enacted Florida law targeting migrants to the United States that the ACLU dubbed a "clear and brazen attack on civic participation in our democracy."

S.B. 7050, signed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis in May, would have allowed the government to fine community organizations $50,000 for every noncitizen person who collected or submitted voter registration forms for the group, even if the individuals were legally authorized to work in the United Stat

Chief U.S. District Judge Mark Walker, who presides over the Northern District of Florida, blocked the provision in a58-page order, calling it "Florida's latest assault on the right to vote" and asserting that the provision would have "substantially interrupted" organizations' community outreach efforts.

"Tomorrow, Floridians across the state will commemorate our nation's birthday," Walker wrote. "They will endure the heat of the Florida summer to celebrate the Fourth of July with family and friends at barbecues and picnics. They will gather with their communities at public parks for music and fireworks. They will cheer and sweat at parades and block parties. And amid these patriotic festivities, some may feel moved, for the first time, to embrace their solemn privilege as citizens by registering to vote."

"That's where plaintiffs come in," the judge continued, highlighting the testimony of Veronica Herrera-Lucha, a permanent resident who is the Florida state field director for nonprofit voter registration group,Mi Vecino

"Absent the challenged provisions at issue in these cases, individuals like Ms. Herrera-Lucha and [third-party voter registration organizations] like the Florida NAACP and Hispanic Federation would be engaging with their communities and registering new voters," Walker wrote. "Ms. Herrera-Lucha, a noncitizen who, herself, lacks the right to vote, has spent years registering and encouraging citizens to exercise that solemn right. She may, at least for now, continue to do so and add more voices to the millions of others singing a more perfect union into existence."

The president and CEO of the Hispanic Federation, Frankie Miranda, heralded Walker's decision for confirming "what we knew from the very beginning: Florida's latest voter registration law was unconstitutional and served no other purpose than to silence our communities."

"This ruling is a win for all Floridians—especially for underrepresented communities who rely on nonpartisan organizations like us to help make their voices heard," Miranda said. "We applaud this ruling, and will not rest until everyone's right to participate in our democracy is protected."

The Hispanic Federation was one of several community groups that sued the state over the provision, which was part of the governor and the Republican-led legislature's broader voting restrictions. The law also includes provisions that place restrictions on mail-in voting and allow DeSantis to run for president without having to resign as Florida's governor.

In his Monday order, Walker admonished the state's political leaders for their alleged difficulty governing "within the bounds set by the United States Constitution."

"When state government power threatens to spread beyond constitutional bounds and reduce individual rights to ashes, the federal judiciary stands as a firewall," Walker added. "The Free State of Florida is simply not free to exceed the bounds of the United States Constitution."

Daniel Tilley, the ACLU of Florida's legal director, praised Walker's ruling in a statement, saying that it "fortifies the idea that all Floridians have a right to participate in building a stronger democracy through civic engagement."

"While this is a step in the right direction, our work is not finished," Tilley said. "People in our communities, including noncitizens, work tirelessly to assist in voter registration efforts to empower Floridians to vote on issues that impact their daily lives. We applaud the court's decision, but we must ensure this harmful law is struck down altogether."

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Kavika
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1  seeder  Kavika     last year

Things are not going well for DeSantis in the courts.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @1    last year

Or in his presidential campaign.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Gsquared @1.1    last year

Indeed, the presidential campaign is floundering.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Kavika @1.1.1    last year

I read a report/poll the other day that shows how DeSantis is losing Hispanic support and his unfavorable rating is quite high.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1.1.2    last year
DeSantis is losing Hispanic support

zero situational awareness...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1    last year

free and fair elections, as long as you're white xtian conservatives...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @1.2    last year
free and fair elections, as long as you're white xtian conservatives...

That sure seems to be the case especially with DeSantis.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Kavika @1.2.1    last year

That sure seems to be the case especially with DeSantis.

At this point, they should just ask who is going to vote for who, then go back to congress and block those SPECIFIC people who won't vote republican. It really is down to that.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.3  seeder  Kavika   replied to  MrFrost @1.2.2    last year

Sounds about right, MrFrost.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2  Ender    last year

Some people seem to be against having more people vote.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Ender @2    last year
Some people seem to be against having more people vote.

They sure seem to be, and to think that they would want as many people to participate in our elections as possible. Strange, or is it, that they don't. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
2.1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Kavika @2.1    last year

“…think that they would want as many people to participate…”

The ultimate goal one would think.

But alas, they know all too well their demographic and thus their brand is rapidly shrinking. Through the combination of simply dying off and worse, propagating populist policy decisions that ignore the realities of this ever evolving world.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Dinosaurs. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.1    last year
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Dinosaurs. 

agreed.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.1    last year
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Dinosaurs.

human relics of a white supremacist past...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.2  shona1  replied to  Ender @2    last year

Morning Endy.....one of the reasons why it is compulsory to vote here...turn 18 and an Aussie citizen and it doesn't matter what ethnicity you are you vote..if you don't you are fined so better have a damn good reason why you didn't..

It's a privilege to vote here and we do it well... everything is done to make sure where you live in this country you can get to a polling booth...if not it will come to you... from Antarctica to the Outback...

No dramas, no hassles and certainly nothing like what goes on over there.. basic and simple for everyone to use and get off their arses and vote...and that applies to both Federal and State..

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
2.2.1  afrayedknot  replied to  shona1 @2.2    last year

“…basic and simple…”

Sadly two words that have little use and even less application hereabouts. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  shona1 @2.2    last year

That is one of the things (probably the most) I admire about Australia. 

Many men and woman have fought and died for the right to vote and it seems to me that people can get off their ass and take time to excerise their rights and IMO, there is nothing more important than the ''right to vote''.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.2.3  shona1  replied to  Kavika @2.2.2    last year

Morning..yep go to bed Saturday night with one mob in power wake up Sunday morning a new mob in power...

No one gives a stuff the next majour decision is what to have for breakfast that morning..🤣

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.4  seeder  Kavika   replied to  shona1 @2.2.3    last year

LMAO, sounds perfect to me.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  shona1 @2.2.3    last year
go to bed Saturday night with one mob in power wake up Sunday morning a new mob in power...

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.6  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.5    last year
Meet the new boss...same as the old boss

Just with a different line of BS.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.2.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  shona1 @2.2    last year

Apparently Australia is a country that wants its citizens to vote. In France, citizens vote on a non-working day - usually a Sunday - at a polling place a few minutes walk from home, with a wait-line that never exceeds a few minutes. France also wants its citizens to vote.

Meanwhile, in the self-acclaimed "world's most democratic nation" voting is on work days, with hours-long waiting times. Wanna draw any conclusions about that?  jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.8  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Bob Nelson @2.2.7    last year

Sadly, it seems that in the US they make it more difficult to vote, not easier. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2.9  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @2.2.8    last year

it levels the playing field for them.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
3  Perrie Halpern R.A.    last year

When you are having problems finding people to work on the farms in Florida, making them feel less welcome is always a good thing to do/ sarc. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3    last year

That is true but we are not dealing with a person that thinks that far ahead, it's all ''culture wars'' with DeSantis.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @3.1    last year

they may all go broke, but at least they won't be woke. /s

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    last year

LOL, no they won't.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @3.1.2    last year

thankfully for americans, the maga movement is following organized religion's death spiral...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.4  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @3.1.3    last year

... good riddance to both impotent groups.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    last year

Great slogan for the willfully ignorant: "I will never be woke!"

Says it all....

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.6  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.5    last year
"I will never be woke!"

And I am going to stay comatose no matter what.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kavika @3.1.6    last year

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devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @3.1.6    last year

yeah!

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4  cjcold    last year

Looks like Florida just doesn't care for tourist dollars anymore.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  cjcold @4    last year
Looks like Florida just doesn't care for tourist dollars anymore.

DeSantis's ''culture war'' campaign is all he has and it becomes more obvious the the courts also believe that is all he has since his ''laws'' keep getting thumped by the courts.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @4.1    last year

his followers won't know the difference...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @4.1.1    last year
his followers won't know the difference...

Lemmings rarely do.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @4.1.2    last year

the great white dope is doing a nose dive in the polls.... bummer.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @4.1.2    last year
Lemmings rarely do.

they need directions to the nearest cliff...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.5  seeder  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @4.1.4    last year

Talk about leaving Florida:

Florida construction and agricultural workforces diminished after new immigration law takes effect

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @4.1.5    last year

so people not allowed to work here are upset Florida won't let them work.

Meh.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.7  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.6    last year

The employers are the ones upset. Not enough labor and very high wages are hunting their business raising prices on the general public.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @4.1.7    last year
Not enough labor and very high wages are hunting their business raising prices on the general public.

Don't we want wages increasing higher than inflation?

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
4.1.9  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.8    last year
Don't we want wages increasing higher than inflation?

Only for the wealthy ...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @4.1.7    last year

well that's too bad.

illegal aliens should not work here.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @4.1.9    last year

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year

I guess enforcing the law is a bad thing now:

Who can and cannot vote

Who can vote?

You can vote in U.S. federal, state, and local elections if you:
  • Are a U.S. citizen (some areas allow non-citizens to vote in local elections only)
  • Meet your state’s residency requirements
    • You can be homeless and still meet these requirements.
  • Are 18 years old on or before Election Day
    • In almost every state, you can register to vote before you turn 18 if you will be 18 by Election Day.
  • Are registered to vote by your state'svoter registration deadline. North Dakota does not require voter registration.

Who cannot vote?

  • Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents, cannot vote in federal, state, and most local elections.
  • Some people following felony convictions or who are currently serving time for other types of crimes. Rules are different in each state.Check this guide from the Department of Justice to understand the laws in your state.
  • Some people who are mentally incapacitated. Rules vary by state.
  • For president in the general election: U.S. citizens residing in U.S. territories

Check with your state or local election office for any questions about who can and cannot vote.

So SOME AREAS can allow non-citizens to vote in locla elections only.  That leaves it up to that area / state.  If Florida decides not to then they can do just that.  It's not an attack on anybody.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    last year

Did you read the article? The provision that the judge blocked had nothing to do with your comment.

From the article:

A federal judge on Monday blocked a provision of a recently enacted Florida law targeting migrants to the United States that the ACLU dubbed a "clear and brazen attack on civic participation in our democracy."

S.B. 7050, signed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis in May, would have allowed the government to fine community organizations $50,000 for every noncitizen person who collected or submitted voter registration forms for the group, even if the individuals were legally authorized to work in the United Stat

Chief U.S. District Judge Mark Walker, who presides over the Northern District of Florida, blocked the provision in a 58-page order, calling it "Florida's latest assault on the right to vote" and asserting that the provision would have "substantially interrupted" organizations' community outreach efforts.

So SOME AREAS can allow non-citizens to vote in locla elections only.  That leaves it up to that area / state.  If Florida decides not to then they can do just that.  It's not an attack on anybody.  

Once again it's best to read and understand the article before commenting that way you won't embarrass yourself.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.1    last year

.... and break a lengthy history of embarrassing comments?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.1    last year

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Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.3  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.2    last year
Makes the headline a lie!

The headline is accurate and certainly not a lie since nowhere does it say it prevented anyone from voting. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.1.3    last year
The headline is accurate and certainly not a lie since nowhere does it say it prevented anyone from voting. 

The law prevents no one from voting.

The law doesn't make anyone jump through hoops to vote.

Where is this "attack" on the right to vote?

How is anyone being attacked over the right to vote?

Who attacked them?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kavika @5.1    last year
Did you read the article?

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Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.6  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.4    last year

It is all quite clear if you read and understand the article. If you don't that's on you and no one or nothing will help you understand the judge's decision or the wording he used.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @5.1    last year

All some have is PD&D plus delusion.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.1.6    last year

he was probably referring to white people in general with his comments...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.1.6    last year

I read the damn article and still don't see any of these imaginary "attacks".

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.11  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.10    last year
I read the damn article and still don't see any of these imaginary "attacks".

That is your problem not mine.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.1.11    last year

that's not the first time today...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.1.11    last year

I don't have a problem with the article except for the "attack" part which is nothing more than hyperbole to enrage the base .

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.14  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.13    last year
I don't have a problem with the article except for the "attack" part which is nothing more than hyperbole to enrage the base .

No, it isn't the judge stated: 

Chief U.S. District Judge Mark Walker, who presides over the Northern District of Florida, blocked the provision in a58-page order, calling it "Florida's latest assault on the right to vote" and asserting that the provision would have "substantially interrupted" organizations' community outreach effort

If you want to quibble over attack and assault have at it and debate the judge. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.1.14    last year

the judge can certainly say whatever he wants but I see no attack on voting here.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6  seeder  Kavika     last year

Because of DeSantis new ''laws'' many conventions are pulling out of Florida, especially central Florida. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @6    last year

rwnj's excel at f'ing up an economy.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
6.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @6.1    last year

The economy has done well during Democratic administrations, and not so during Republican ones. For decades.

Draw whatever conclusions you will.  jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Bob Nelson @6.1.1    last year

rwnj's helping the wealthy loot the economy after a democratic administration is a GOP tradition.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7  Texan1211    last year

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devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @7    last year

LOL

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
8  cjcold    last year

So the fascist criminal Trump will likely be nominated over the fascist criminal DeSantis.

Seems that the GOP has gone down the rabbit hole with Alice.

Still an independent centrist but the right just keeps going more extreme.

The lies and propaganda from the far right just keep going more fascist.

This centrist will likely never vote for a republican ever again.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @8    last year

Same here cj

Yet they are delusional and funny how I don't hear much about red waves though anymore.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @8    last year
Seems that the GOP has gone down the rabbit hole with Alice.

more like climbed up their hero's ass and taken residence...

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
9  Thrawn 31    last year

Desantis is all headlines and zero substance. Pretty much every single one of his "wins" in florida are either tied up or have been struck down in court. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
10  Bob Nelson    last year
                  is all headlines and zero substance.

Fill in the blank with any current Republican "leader".

 
 

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