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United Methodists lose one-fifth of U.S. churches over defiance of LGBTQ+ bans

  
Via:  Ender  •  last year  •  15 comments

By:   PETER SMITH

United Methodists lose one-fifth of U.S. churches over defiance of LGBTQ+ bans
 

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M ore than 6,000 United Methodist congregations — a fifth of the U.S. total — have now received permission to   leave the denomination   amid a schism over theology and the role of LGBTQ+ people in the nation's second-largest Protestant denomination.

Those figures emerged following regular meetings in June of the denomination's regional bodies, known as annual conferences. The departures began with a trickle in 2019 — when the church created a four-year window of opportunity for U.S. congregations to depart over LGBTQ+-related issues — and cascaded to its highest level this year.

Church law forbids the marriage or ordination of “self-avowed, practicing homosexuals,” but a growing defiance of those bans by many U.S. churches and conferences has led many conservatives to leave.

Many of the departing congregations are joining the Global Methodist Church, a denomination created last year by conservatives breaking from the UMC, while others are going independent or joining different denominations.

Some 6,182 congregations have received approval to disaffiliate since 2019, according to an unofficial   tally by United Methodist News Service , which has been tracking votes by annual conferences. That figure is 4,172 for this year alone, it reported.

Some annual conferences may approve more departures at special sessions later this year, according to the Rev. Jay Therrell, president of the Wesleyan Covenant Assn., a conservative caucus that has advocated for the exiting churches. While most UMC congregations are remaining, many of the departing congregations are large, and denomination officials are bracing for significant budget cuts in 2024.

The numbers of exiting churches are higher than conservatives originally estimated, Therrell said.

Legal wrangles have largely been resolved over how much compensation the departing congregations must pay for their property and other financial obligations.

“For the most part, bishops and other annual conference leaders have been very gracious, and I deeply appreciate that,” Therrell said. “There have been some small exceptions to that, and those are unfortunate, but we’re grateful that cooler and calmer heads have prevailed.”

Bishop Thomas Bickerton, president of the UMC’s Council of Bishops, said the departures were disappointing.

“I don’t think any of us want to see any of our churches leave,” he said. “We're called to be the body of Christ, we're called to be unified. There’s never been a time when the church has not been without conflict, but there’s been a way we’ve worked through that.”

But for those who want “to go and live out their Christian faith in a new expression, we wish God’s blessings on them,” he said.

The split has been long in the making, mirroring controversies that have led to splits in other mainline Protestant denominations. United Methodist legislative bodies, known as general conferences, have repeatedly reinforced bans on LGBTQ+ marriage and ordination, on the strength of coalitions of conservatives in U.S. and overseas churches.

But amid increased defiance of those bans in many U.S. churches, many conservatives decided to launch the separate Global Methodist Church, saying they believed the sexuality issues reflected deeper theological differences.

The departures have been particularly large in the South and Midwest, with states such as Texas, Alabama, Kentucky and Ohio each losing hundreds of congregations.

In some areas, United Methodists have designated “lighthouse” or similarly named congregations, with a mission for receiving members who wanted to stay United Methodists but whose churches were leaving. The GMC has begun planting new churches, including in areas where United Methodist congregations have remained in that denomination.

With these departures, progressives are expected to propose changing church law at the next General Conference in 2024 to allow for same-sex marriage and the ordination of LGBTQ+ people.

The United Methodist Church has about 6.5 million members in the United States and at least that many abroad, according to its website. The U.S. membership has been in steady decline, while the overseas membership has grown, particularly in Africa.

Therrell said there will be efforts at the 2024 General Conference to provide overseas churches a legal way to disaffiliate, similar to what U.S. congregations have had.

The GMC says about 3,000 churches so far have affiliated with the new denomination, with more expected.

Bickerton said it's time for United Methodists remaining in the denomination to refocus their work.

“Quite often, when you’re pressed, you begin to exhibit creativity,” he said. “We’re pivoting away from what we were into what our next expression is going to be." Budgets will be smaller, but "this is our opportunity to refashion the church for relevance in the 21st century and really focus on evangelism.”


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Ender
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1  seeder  Ender    last year

This was the religion I grew up with. My Grandfather was a minister and went to these conferences.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Ender @1    last year

I can't even remember what faction of the evangelical cult my family belonged to when I was a kid. looks like part of this church is actually devoted to following the teachings of their savior, while the other part is going to fake it and continue worshiping at the altars of their republican false idols. meh, whatever... it does make me a bit nostalgic for the past when religious schisms usually resulted in tossing out the 10 commandments and mass inter-religious carnage.  

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

Maybe it is just me but I don't remember churches back then practicing politics as much as they do now.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    last year

that shit started back in 2008 when obama ran. the IRS should have cracked down on it then, because look where we are now. the major churches are shills and money launderers for the GOP.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.3  cjcold  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    last year

Can't help but think that religions have always been as political as they were spiritual. The early popes had as much or more power as kings.

Seems churches are rapidly losing attendance these days, however, with median attendance down from 137 in 2000 to 65 in 2020 among all denominations. 

Their seeming power just might be a reflection of internet presence. Going from a very silent majority to a really noisy minority.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.4  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.1.3    last year

The wounded beast fights all the harder and louder when faced with its own mortality and insignificance.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1.5  bbl-1  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    last year

It was Reagan who brought the christians into the GOP fold for the 'block vote' and the money that was avaliable.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1.6  bbl-1  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

My church as a youngster was the Evangelical United Brethern.  This was back in the 1960s.  Their main message was pro war (Vietnam) and anti communism.  After I served in Vietnam 67-69 I never entered their doors again.  And have stayed away since.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1.7  bbl-1  replied to  cjcold @1.1.4    last year

The 'wounded beast' can also become dangerous, desperate and willing to do everything against the very principals of its reason for being.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.1.8  cjcold  replied to  bbl-1 @1.1.5    last year

I believe it was Nixon who coined the term "silent majority."

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1.9  bbl-1  replied to  cjcold @1.1.8    last year

Yes he did.  Falwell did it.  But Reagan brought them into the Oval.

 
 
 
Ender
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2  seeder  Ender    last year

So reading it again, it was in the rules opposing gay marriage and gay ordained ministers and some churches I guess ignored those rules.

So even though they had the rules they wanted, it wasn't enough for them because how dare some churches flaunt their rules, so they left...

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Ender @2    last year

yeah, protestants should've kept the coin operated sunday rinse and repeat approach to sin when martin luther split away from the mackerel snapper church.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    last year
on the strength of coalitions of conservatives in U.S. and overseas churches

Yeah, it’s mostly those overseas churches (especially Africa) and congregations from the southern US. A few years back, at their global conference, they voted on inclusion and acceptance of LGBT individuals and pastors. But for that conservative coalition, a more progressive plan would have been approved.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4  bbl-1    last year

Religion depends on division and exclusion.  For a time that approach was successful but the plus side is definately waning.  As the 'organized christian religions' splinter their influence will decrease and some will devolve in simple supremacy groups causing religious influence to decrease even more.  

 
 

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