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Fox News' Greg Gutfeld Floats Civil War Because 'Elections Don't Work'

  
Via:  Gsquared  •  7 months ago  •  42 comments

By:   Justin Baragona (The Daily Beast)

Fox News' Greg Gutfeld Floats Civil War Because 'Elections Don't Work'
The right-wing network's resident comedian went full fascist on Thursday, warning that the only thing that can save America is another civil war.

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Fox News host Greg Gutfeld, supposedly the right-wing network's resident comedian, dove into extremely dark and violent territory on Thursday, seemingly urging for a new American civil war because "elections don't work" and the nation is in "peril and chaos."

Gutfeld, whose rhetoric has grown angrier and more extreme in recent years, declared during Thursday's broadcast of Fox News' The Five that American democracy was no longer feasible. Instead, because crime has supposedly spun out of control—despite homicide rates falling this year and crime just a fraction of what it was 30 years ago—he suggested a radically violent solution.

During a segment discussing the recent looting spree in Philadelphia, which resulted in dozens of people being criminally charged, Gutfeld took issue with some looters being let go with a slap on the wrist, calling it a "criminal mulligan." In his opinion, this was analogous to the Jan. 6 insurrection, but the Capitol rioters were given harsher criminal sentences due to their race and political affiliation.

"Only certain people get criminal mulligans and Jan. 6 protestors, they don't get criminal mulligans and here's why. They're the oppressor. So the oppressed get criminal mulligans," he exclaimed." The people who are complaining, like us, we're actually oppressors, and we're losing power so that's why we are upset. I just got a job at MSNBC," Gutfeld snarked, before comparing the "rights" of criminals to victims of crime.

"Criminals get a mulligan, they can steal up to $900 worth of stuff, they can loiter, sleep, and shoot up in public areas, including playgrounds, they can loot and burn and call it social justice," he declared. "They can pile up dozens of arrests and never do time. Meanwhile, what about us? Well, we have to change our lives to accommodate risk wherever we go. We have to move out of cities for the sake of the safety of our families and our own safety. That's what's happening."

Gutfeld continued: "We are being driven out of cities by the oppressed, so I return to my imperfect analogy from yesterday. We had a war over slavery. We knew slavery was inhumane and immoral, but somehow we couldn't solve slavery peacefully." Pointing out that slavery was "evil," Gutfeld then said "one side refused to acknowledge it was evil because it was too big of an admission for them to make." From there, he suggested that the United States was inevitably heading to another violent civil war.

"Doesn't that feel that way now?" Gutfeld rhetorically asked. "That this defiant refusal to reverse this decline argues against the survival of a country. What does that leave you with? It leaves you with 'you need to make war to bring peace' because you have a side that cannot change. Because then that means the admission that their beliefs have been corrupt all the time. So in a way, you have to force them to surrender."

Liberal co-host Harold Ford Jr., meanwhile, responded to Gutfeld that "we can have an election," prompting the so-called "King of Late Night" to seemingly go full fascist.

"No, elections don't work," Gutfeld retorted. "We know that. We know they don't work!"

After Ford said "they do work," Gutfeld went on a dystopian tirade before again insisting that democracy is no longer a viable path.

"Look what we have! We had a moderate president and we have crime exploding everywhere," he shouted. "We had a Democrat president promise that he was going to be moderate, promise that he was gonna unite the country and now we have a terrible education system. We have no border. We have crime everywhere. Every facet of society is in peril and in chaos because our elections don't matter!"

Gutfeld did not acknowledge the fact that the U.S. is 13 months out from a presidential election in which one party's frontrunner refused to accept the results of the previous election. He also failed to clarify that he was speaking on a network that had to pay $787.5 million to settle a lawsuit over allegations it had knowingly peddled voter fraud lies to boost ratings.


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Gsquared
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1  seeder  Gsquared    7 months ago

The reactionary right wing lunatic fringe is falling further into the abyss.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1  cjcold  replied to  Gsquared @1    7 months ago

Democracy elections worked until Trump said they didn't.

Ignorant, far right wing fascists need to be slapped down!

Trump is what Hitler was in the 30s. 

MAGA is the new Nazi party.

Fascism will always be fascism.

No matter how many evil times it comes around.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.1  CB  replied to  cjcold @1.1    7 months ago

This is what MAGA is all about. This is why MAGA follows Trump. He is expected to take them to the 'promised land' of taking back the country for conservatives who wish to preserve the past "glories" of a bygone world! Never mind the fact that such a past is gone—passed away for a good reason. 

No liberals worth their salt are going to serve a conservative like it was in the past. We're too smart and we know who we are!

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.2  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @1.1    7 months ago

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afrayedknot
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1.1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  bugsy @1.1.2    7 months ago

“Are there right wing fascists everywhere you look?”

Like cockroaches, they once lingered in the dark. The only positive thing about trumpism is that he has brought them into the light where we can, and must, acknowledge their existence and do our best to exterminate their pestilential ideology. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  bugsy @1.1.2    7 months ago

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1.1.5  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.4    7 months ago

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bugsy
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1.1.6  bugsy  replied to  George @1.1.5    7 months ago

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bugsy
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1.1.7  bugsy  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.3    7 months ago

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bugsy
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1.1.8  bugsy  replied to  bugsy @1.1.7    7 months ago

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devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @1    7 months ago

get in line for the geezus meet and greet thumper trumpers...

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     7 months ago

If we are going to have a civil war I suggest that we put Gutfield on the front line with a musket. End of problem.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @2    7 months ago

That is an excellent suggestion.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2  cjcold  replied to  Kavika @2    7 months ago

Unfortunately, the upcoming American civil war won't be fought with muskets. The far-right would have it be fought with sniper rifles.

Intelligent folk would have it be fought with ideas and words.

The low IQ far right don't have those tools in their armory.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.1  CB  replied to  cjcold @2.2    7 months ago

I have asked. . .before. What does MAGA think liberals will be doing while they 'hold' civil war? There will be no thumb-sucking or time for crying. Liberals can fight too. Best believe that. 

Also, you won't here the "silent republicans' come out and condemn this fool's remark cast across the airways. Hell, you won't even here the MAGA "team" squarely on this site condemn him. And you damn sure won't read or hear Trump condemn him.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @2.2    7 months ago

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2.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2.2.1    7 months ago

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JBB
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3  JBB    7 months ago

No wonder Gutfeld's nickname is "Short Bus"...

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @3    7 months ago

short buses always seem to drive off the road...

 
 
 
CB
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4  CB    7 months ago
"Doesn't that feel that way now?" Gutfeld rhetorically asked. "That this defiant refusal to reverse this decline argues against the survival of a country. What does that leave you with? It leaves you with 'you need to make war to bring peace' because you have a side that cannot change. Because then that means the admission that their beliefs have been corrupt all the time. So in a way, you have to force them to surrender."

The thesis statement. 

The question: Is Gutfeld taken off the air yet? Is it allowable freedom of speech to aspire to insurrection and civil war on a national network to a specific audience which caters to guns?

(Albeit, MAGA needs to wrap its mind around the notion that liberals will not sit around and be massacred to satiate MAGA's bloodlust. No not at all!)

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  CB @4    7 months ago

You asked a very good question, CB.  On right wing media, it's allowed.

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.1  CB  replied to  Gsquared @4.1    7 months ago

If someone is hurt or a group is hurt, can FOX NEWS be criminally or civilly sued about it? 

It is time to begin putting some teeth (action) behind these discussions, apparently talking to MAGA gives them a false strength that they are able to say and do anything they wish-when they wish to liberals. 

If they wish to play hardball then bring it on.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    7 months ago

This is what we get for not getting rid of Trump 8 years ago. 

RWNJ would have still been with us, but not like this. 

 
 
 
CB
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5.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @5    7 months ago

This bastard named Trump has the unmitigated gall to think that he can suppress or repress over half the country because he talks tough or even gets his MAGA supporters to march and fire on liberal families and friends. 

If there is to be a civil war it won't be like anything like the first one. This ain't then. 

In fact, many conservatives have already left MAGA. Many more will leave too, because wrong can't turn itself into right no way no how.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6  cjcold    7 months ago

What Gandhi did doesn't actually apply to far-right wing fascism taking over America. 

Trump and his far-right wing fascists are the opposite of what America should be.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    7 months ago

How will this work, exactly? Do we have a dozen states where crime is legal? And they want to secede to protect their right to have rampant crime? Did Gutfeld spend even half a second thinking this through?

They can pile up dozens of arrests and never do time

Yeah, not so much.

We have to move out of cities for the sake of the safety of our families and our own safety.

Haven’t families moved from the cities to the suburbs for generations, if they had the means? That’s not new.

By the way, statistically, it’s the predominately red states that tend to have higher crime rates.

The ten states with the highest crime rate are the District of Columbia, Alaska, New Mexico, Tennessee, Arkansas, Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri, South Carolina, and South Dakota.

Other than DC, we’re not exactly looking at bastions of liberal permissiveness. New York - where Gutfeld works - ranks 27th.

 
 
 
Dig
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8  Dig    7 months ago

I've said it before, these people don't want a republic anymore. They want to rule, and if they can't win elections they're open to just taking power by force, which is about as un-American as you can get. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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8.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Dig @8    7 months ago

That's what we are dealing with.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.1  CB  replied to  Gsquared @8.1    7 months ago

Yep. That's what it comes down to.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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Hal A. Lujah
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12  Hal A. Lujah    7 months ago

I like comedy.  There has never been a funny thing come out of this guy’s mouth.  Anyone who labels this guy as a comedian seriously knows nothing about comedy.

 
 
 
devangelical
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12.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @12    7 months ago

meh, what do you expect from a network that labels itself as news...

goober comedy is somewhere between slapstick and an elementary school knock knock joke.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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12.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  devangelical @12.1    7 months ago

Fake news, meet fake comedy.

 
 
 
devangelical
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12.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @12.1.1    7 months ago

... for fake americans.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @12    7 months ago

There has never been a funny thing come out of this guy’s mouth

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Gsquared
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12.3  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @12    7 months ago

There has never been a word of truth coming out of his mouth, either.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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13  Tacos!    7 months ago

Elections work just fine. Unfortunately for the regressive right that wants to control what everyone else does, elections mean they don’t get to force their will on the majority. So we get tantrums like we see from Gutfeld or the Matt Gaetz types.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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