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President Donald Trump said Tuesday he would approve Florida’s plan to expedite deportations by having qualified National Guard members work as immigration judges.

  
Via:  John Russell  •  last year  •  26 comments


President Donald Trump said Tuesday he would approve Florida’s plan to expedite deportations by having qualified National Guard members work as immigration judges.
 

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President Donald Trump said Tuesday he would approve Florida’s plan to expedite deportations by having qualified National Guard members work as immigration judges.

Trump made the announcement during his visit to a new state-run immigration detention center in South Florida   dubbed Alligator Alcatraz .

For months now, Gov. Ron DeSantis has sought the   approval of the federal government   to deputize Florida National Guard Judge Advocate General Corps officers to act as immigration judges.

On Tuesday, Trump said he is in favor of the plan.

“He didn’t even have to ask me. He has my approval,” Trump said during a roundtable discussion at the immigration detention center in the Everglades.

DeSantis on Monday said having the National Guard work as immigration judges on site at the detention center could fast-track deportations.

On Tuesday, DeSantis said his goal was to cut through “bureaucracy.”

Unlike federal judges, who work for the judicial branch and are independent of the President, immigration judges work under the direction of the U.S. Attorney General.

Because the detention center is   built on an old airstrip , DeSantis and others have also said it will speed up the deportation process by allowing the federal government to   fly migrants out of the site.


Attorney General James Uthmeier, who was instrumental in the detention center’s planning, said on social media Tuesday that it was a “one stop shop for immigration enforcement.”

“Come in, get your ‘process,’ and fly out,” Uthmeier said.

According to Florida’s proposed immigration plan from earlier this year, there are nine Judge Advocate General officers in the National Guard who could be trained as immigration officers and training would take six weeks.

A spokesperson for the National Guard said it has not yet received formal word to begin training the judge advocates but was “standing by to provide support to this mission as needed and directed by Governor DeSantis.”




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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Now we are going to use the military to determine immigration status. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

we need to solidify the oath of enlistment and remove all maga domestic terrorists from our military.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year
Attorney General James Uthmeier, who was instrumental in the detention center’s planning, said on social media Tuesday that it was a “one stop shop for immigration enforcement.” “Come in, get your ‘process,’ and fly out,” Uthmeier said.

Sounds more than a little like a kangaroo court. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year

what do you think a military tribunal is?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    last year

there are nine Judge Advocate General officers in the National Guard who could be trained as immigration officers and training would take six weeks.

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[✘] The idea that they are somehow unqualified but judges who win their seats by donating enough money, having the right family and skin color to be slated by the democratic machine are legitimate judges is bizarre.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.3    last year

Do you not know what a kangaroo court is?  You literally claimed  military lawyers would run one. If that's not despising them,  I don't know what is. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.5    last year
Attorney General James Uthmeier, who was instrumental in the detention center’s planning, said on social media Tuesday that it was a “one stop shop for immigration enforcement.” “Come in, get your ‘process,’ and fly out,” Uthmeier said.

why is 'process' in a scare quote ? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.6    last year

Why don't you ask Romy Ellenbogen or Ana Ceballo, the people who put it there? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.3    last year
judges who win their seats by donating enough money, having the right family and skin color to be slated by the democratic machine

Oh yeah, right, and I'm sure you could prove your horse shit claim and list a bunch of them just like you can list all the members of the 'deep state'. Just more rightwing conservative conspiracy theory lunacy. Are there ideologically left or right Americans who go through law school and become judges? Yes! Does this mean they're all partisan shills willing to subvert the law to help their brand of politics get ahead? Only in the minds of the gullible and the deluded. Are there a handful out there that might be partisan shills? I'm sure they exist on both sides but are not the norm.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.8    last year

Ask John how judges in Cook County end up on the bench. 

 
 
 
Freefaller
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1.1.10  Freefaller  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.2    last year
what do you think a military tribunal is?

Lol, so true and I'm speaking from personal experience unfortunately

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

If the Feds deem it to be legal, why not? The detainees won't have to be their very long to get their due process,

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

My daughter's father-in-law acted as a "judge" during hearings/tribunals in Iraq when determining what to do with the prisoners. And he was a Sr NCO not an officer

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.4  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

Are military lawyers substandard?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Why doesnt he just name himself as the Supreme Leader of Immigration Judging  and we can dispense with all the rigmarole.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

One step at a time, Young Padawan 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    last year

Sounds good.  Justice delayed is justice denied.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year
Justice delayed is justice denied. 

... with the perfect example of that cliche' occupying the oval office now.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year

The faster the deportations, the better America will be……well….except those that thought they would be a good voting base one day

 
 
 
George
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4  George    last year

And the supreme court says 3rd party countries are okay, Ukraine could definitely use the help, and it is harder to sneak back in from there.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  seeder  JohnRussell    last year
Do you not know what a kangaroo court is?

would you like to see the definition? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

You just claimed putting JAG lawyers in charge will make it one.  Own your insult of them. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    last year
having qualified National Guard members work as immigration judges

So, assuming they actually are qualified - i.e. they are experienced lawyers - I assume this would allow the government to simply order Guard members to do the work, rather than hiring new people. This would mean they would get to bypass whatever normal procedures, requirements, and vetting are usually required when hiring judges. They could probably get to work sooner, like right away. And perhaps best of all, they could pay them whatever ordinary Guard pay is instead of paying them whatever a judge usually makes. Sounds pretty typical for Trump.

It sounds sloppy and irresponsible - and maybe it is - but the alternative at the moment is that people will spend longer times in cages in the middle of the Everglades.

 
 
 
GregTx
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7.1  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @7    last year

Or they could self-deport....

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @7.1    last year
Or they could self-deport....

Who could? The Guard? People already locked in cages? To what purpose? What are you talking about?

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Tacos! @7.1.1    last year

He is saying that in order to not put themselves in the position that they are in detention center in Florida, they could self deport and avoid all the problems.

And have a chance to come back legally later.

 
 

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