Kansas Official Tells Black Woman He's Member of the 'Master Race:' 'Don't Ever Forget That'

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Kansas Official Tells Black Woman He's Member of the 'Master Race:' 'Don't Ever Forget That'
“I don't want you to feel like I'm picking on you. Because we are part of the master race,” he said in this week's meeting. “You have a gap in your teeth. We are part of the master race, don’t you forget that.”

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A Kansas County commissioner is facing calls to apologize after telling a black woman that he is part of the “master race” during a routine public planning meeting.

The remark was made on Tuesday by Leavenworth County commissioner Louis Klemp, a white man, and seemingly directed at a woman presenting for an architecture firm. It has been branded as racist—and local media reported it was not the first time Klemp has sparked controversy.

“I don't want you to feel like I'm picking on you. Because we are part of the master race,” he said in this week's meeting. “You have a gap in your teeth. We are part of the master race, don’t you forget that.”

Bob Holland, another Leavenworth County commissioner, told KCTV5 that Klemp—who is reportedly due to leave his position on January 15 next year—should make an apology.

“What’s this master race?" Holland said on Wednesday. “None of us are a master race. We are all Americans, we are all human beings. I think he is a racist. I do. I think he owes an apology to that woman. I think he owes an apology to the whole commission. And the county.”

KSHB-TV reported that Klemp was not elected to his role as commissioner but appointed by the Republican committee after another member resigned due to ill health. When approached by the news outlet, Klemp claimed his comment was meant as a joke.

But Holland told KSHB-TV: “I'm ashamed of one of our commissioners and what he has done. We shouldn't be labeled as Leavenworth County, the racist county. That's the way I feel we are being labeled.” It was not the first time he had criticized his Leavenworth colleague.

Last year, Klemp made local headlines after comments he delivered regarding Robert E. Lee and George Washington in a routine meeting set to approve the county's holiday schedule.

“Not everybody does them all because we have Robert E. Lee...Oh God, Robert E. Lee, wonderful part of history,” the commissioner said, referring to the Confederate commander during the American Civil War.

Klemp said in the meeting that his great, great grandfather had owned a slave and claimed that George Washington would never be given a holiday because he owned slaves.

"If we're going to have Martin Luther King Day, why don't we have a George Washington? I think George was a pretty important guy," he said, before going on to ask if Oprah Winfrey would be given a holiday. Holland said at the time Klemp had “embarrassed” the county with this remarks.

“Mr. Klemp certainly embarrassed Leavenworth County to the extreme,” Holland stated. “I just believe that he embarrassed himself, his family and our Leavenworth County taxpayers.”

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Trout Giggles
1  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago

Has this become normal?

 
 
epistte
1.1  epistte  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 weeks ago

Trump has legitimized this racist nonsense.

If we're going to have Martin Luther King Day, why don't we have a George Washington? I think George was a pretty important guy," he said, before going on to ask if Oprah Winfrey would be given a holiday. Holland said at the time Klemp had “embarrassed” the county with this remarks.

What calendar does this fascist dirtbag use because my calendar says that Presidents Day is February 18th.

The origin of Presidents’ Day lies in the 1880s, when the birthday of Washington—commander of the Continental Army during the American Revolution and the first president of the United States—was first celebrated as a federal holiday.
 
 
badfish hαηd ⊕ƒ †hε Ωuεεη
1.2  badfish hαηd ⊕ƒ †hε Ωuεεη  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 weeks ago

No it has not become normal and it certainly has not become acceptable. The majority of our fellow countrymen continue to reject racism and bigotry.

We are however obsessed with defaming one another with labels of such though for political gain. This man needs no help though, he is a self admitted bigot and should wear the label with the shame it deserves.

 
 
Studiusbagus
1.2.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  badfish hαηd ⊕ƒ †hε Ωuεεη @1.2    3 weeks ago
We are however obsessed with defaming one another with labels of such though for political gain.

Hmmm, doesn't seem to faze you when you make those very points on other threads.

Could it be the fact that the shooters, bombers, Nazi's all are directly tied to the right? 

 
 
devangelical
1.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 weeks ago

maybe the new governor of that state can expedite the departure of this neo-nazi asswipe, since he was a political appointee

 
 
Studiusbagus
1.3.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  devangelical @1.3    3 weeks ago

That's the kicker...he was placed in there by the Republicans and he had to do that more than once before they yanked him.

 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.3.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  devangelical @1.3    3 weeks ago

Klemp should have been fired and packing up his office within hours of making that stupid racist comment!

 
 
Kavika
2  Kavika     3 weeks ago

I'd love to see/hear that asshole tell that to Sharice Davids the new congresswoman from Kansas. LOL, a MMA professional.

 
 
MUVA
2.1  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @2    3 weeks ago

What would she but listen to and take it?

 
 
Kavika
2.1.1  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @2.1    3 weeks ago

I'm sure that she would handle it is a classy but in a very direct way to the asswipe...As she did with another very racist comment made to her during the run up to election day. 

BTW, that person no longer has his job.

 
 
PJ
3  PJ    3 weeks ago

She is exactly who I imagine a Trump supporter would be like  jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
Ender
4  Ender    3 weeks ago
Klemp claimed his comment was meant as a joke

Always some lame excuse. It was a joke, taken out of context, etc.

One thing, people like him are usually dumb enough to out themselves.

 
 
epistte
5  epistte    3 weeks ago

The governor says that he must step down,

LEAVENWORTH, Kan. — Kansas Gov. Jeff Colyer has called on a white county official to resign after the official said at a public meeting that he belongs to "the master race."

Leavenworth County Commissioner Louis Klemp cited the master race — the Nazi ideology of Aryan supremacy — at a board meeting Tuesday while responding to a presentation by a black official, Triveece Penelton, on road development options in Tonganoxie, just west of Kansas City.

 
 
Tacos!
6  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

Deep breath, America. Deep breath.

Apparently, it's something of an inside joke, which explains why everyone in the room didn't lose their minds.

But Mark Loughry, the administrator of Leavenworth County, which is just outside Kansas City, said in a statement that Mr. Klemp’s comments were misconstrued and had nothing to do with Nazism. Mr. Loughry said Mr. Klemp had used the term “master race” several times in the past year to refer to people with gaps in their front teeth, and his comment was meant to include both Ms. Penelton and himself [my bold].

If you still don't get the joke, he's referring to a cosmetic flaw, and rather than be embarrassed about it says it's a sign of being a member of the master race. Furthermore, he is including the African American woman in this master race, so the suggestion that this is an insult directed at her is not true. He actually appears to be trying to be friendly with her.

It might not be very professional (or funny), but it apparently is not racist either. Unfortunately, our leftist media (of which Newsweek is a shining example) spend their days trying to find ways to attack people as racist rather than looking for ordinary people making jokes.

Brief clips with no context make it easy to destroy a person. This is the kind of reporting we get from the "professionals" at Newsweek, CNN, and the like. I can do better, and I'm just sitting on a couch in my living room.

There is a video of the entire meeting. The lady comes to the podium about 1 hour, 7 minutes in. He starts making the joke about 1 hour, 35 minutes in and she laughs at the joke, which he then explains. No one in the room objected to it, but it clearly wasn't intended to be racist. She then remains at the podium until about 2 hours, 7 minutes. If no one in the room was offended, I think the rest of America can relax.

 
 
epistte
6.1  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @6    3 weeks ago

Fascism is not a joke, except to other fascists.

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  epistte @6.1    3 weeks ago
Fascism is not a joke, except to other fascists.

Tell it to Mel Brooks. You may think the joke is in poor taste, and I might agree with you. But it's still a joke and not an attempt to assert some dominant racist position. That's the point.

The most important thing about this story - the allegation that he was expressing racist, nazi intent - is not true. But it would tear you in half to admit that, wouldn't it.

 
 
epistte
6.1.2  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    3 weeks ago

Mel Brooks is a satirist. This guy is a politician who you are trying to spin his fascism. 

 
 
Studiusbagus
6.1.3  Studiusbagus  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    3 weeks ago
The most important thing about this story - the allegation that he was expressing racist, nazi intent - is not true. But it would tear you in half to admit that, wouldn't it.

Even more important is that this is not his first "joke" as you call it. He was appointed by Republicans and it took a second "joke" before they yanked him.

Tells much.

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  epistte @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
Mel Brooks is a satirist.

Yeah, and plenty of people are offended by his sense of humor, too. Do you think he could make Blazing Saddles today? I don't. All the self-righteous leftists would be too horrified to laugh.

This guy is a politician who you are trying to spin his fascism.

You literally know nothing about this guy except for this story and you have determined that he is a facist. And when presented with evidence that proves a non-racist context for the joke, you reject that evidence as irrelevant. All this tells me is that you're prioritizing being outraged at people. You would rather condemn people for being nazis rather than find out maybe you were mistaken about them.

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.1.3    3 weeks ago
Even more important is that this is not his first "joke" as you call it.

Yes, that is actually is important. It proves his claim of it being a joke is true and not something he made up because he got some heat for it.

He was appointed by Republicans

Who cares? Was everyone else in the room a nazi also? Because not one person - including the person it was directed at - thought it was a comment worthy of being insulted over.

 
 
epistte
6.1.6  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.4    3 weeks ago
You literally know nothing about this guy except for this story and you have determined that he is a facist. And when presented with evidence that proves a non-racist context for the joke, you reject that evidence as irrelevant. All this tells me is that you're prioritizing being outraged at people. You would rather condemn people for being nazis rather than find out maybe you were mistaken about them.

His own party is telling him to step down. 

Add the Kansas governor to the list of people who say they believe a county commissioner’s “master race” comments to a black city planner were Nazi-tinged, racist and crossed the line — not a bizarre, orthodontic-themed joke that somehow landed wrong.

As did his co-workers,

The county’s other two commissioners, Doug Smith and Robert Holland, called this week for Klemp’s resignation.

“In the best interest of the county, he should resign,” Smith said in a statement.

The Leavenworth City Commission also condemned Klemp’s language and said his comments had “harmed the overall perception of residents, businesses, cities, organizations and agencies in Leavenworth County.”

Why are you defending it when no one else is? Do you agree with his fascist comment?

I'm not offended by satire because I understand the goal of satire. 

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  epistte @6.1.6    3 weeks ago
His own party is telling him to step down.

What is that supposed to prove? 8 days a week, you think Republicans are idiots, but now you think they're wise??

As did his co-workers

History has lessons for us. Do you not understand how the various inquisitions and witch scares worked? Or the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution, for that matter? People become so terrified of being accused, that they waste no opportunity to accuse others. It keeps the focus off of them. And you dare not speak up in defense of anyone because then you yourself will be labeled the heretic, or the racist, or the nazi. It takes courage and an open mind.

It's not my purpose to defend racism or nazis. If I thought this guy was genuinely a racist or a nazi, I would support calls for his resignation. But I don't go around assuming people are evil or looking for ways to condemn them, and genuine nazis are pretty rare.

So, the news comes out and says this guy is a nazi. Wouldn't it be wonderful if it turned out that it wasn't true? I think so, but no one wants to give anyone the benefit of the doubt anymore.

Why are you defending it when no one else is?

I'm not the only one defending his words as a joke. I offered links to that effect in my original comment. I'll repeat one here from the County Administrator:

I will say though that what is being reported in the media is not an accurate representation of what was said during our meeting. Commissioner Klemp has a gap in his front teeth and so did the person presenting to the Commission on Tuesday. On several occasions over the past year Mr. Klemp has made reference that those with a gap in their front teeth are members of the master race. At Tuesday’s meeting he stated that he and the lady presenting to the Board were both members of the master race due to the gap in their teeth. The use of the term “Master Race”, as ill-advised as it may be, was not a reference to Nazis or used in a racist manner in this instance.

I'm taking both men at their word as I know nothing else about them or how they live their lives. A real nazi would be proud of it, wouldn't he? What genuine nazi have you ever heard of who would include a black woman in his master race?

I understand the goal of satire

Can you understand the concept of people with embarrassing cosmetic flaws (or any physical characteristic outside the mainstream) pretending those "flaws" are actually signs of superiority?

 
 
epistte
6.1.8  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.7    3 weeks ago
What is that supposed to prove? 8 days a week, you think Republicans are idiots, but now you think they're wise??

Even the members of his own party aren't buying his claim of it being a joke because this has gone beyond what even his partisan allies are willing to defend. It's time for this fascist to step down and crawl back under his rock. This supposed joke might have been funny if it were between two white guys at a party but obviously, it is not, so he needs to apologize,  admit that he made a horrific mistake and resign.

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.9  Tacos!  replied to  epistte @6.1.8    3 weeks ago
but obviously,

"But obviously" is not a compelling argument. I gave you evidence. All you have is your bias.

 
 
epistte
6.1.10  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.9    3 weeks ago
"But obviously" is not a compelling argument. I gave you evidence. All you have is your bias.

His co-workers and the governor have thrown this bigot under a bus and told him to resign, so I have to wonder why you continue to defend this bigot who makes Nazi jokes at work? [Removed]

 

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.11  Tacos!  replied to  epistte @6.1.10    3 weeks ago

This has been explained to you.

 
 
epistte
6.1.12  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.11    3 weeks ago
This has been explained to you.

You have tried to defend this fascist, but his words are not defensible.  He isn't a satirist.

 
 
epistte
6.1.13  epistte  replied to  epistte @6.1.10    3 weeks ago
[Removed]

Badfish, My argument was directly relevant to Tacos' previous reply. He might not like it but when he decides to defend people who make references to facism, then he needs to accept the consequences of that action.  It is perfectly in line with the discussion to ask if he defends fascism.  This isn't a First Amendment situation because Klemp is not being threatened with fines or jail for his speech. 

I'd like for my reply to be restored.

 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1.14  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @6.1.13    3 weeks ago

Your comment wasn't even flagged, bf just removed it on his own.

 
 
epistte
6.1.15  epistte  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.14    3 weeks ago
Your comment wasn't even flagged, bf just removed it on his own.

That is a nice superpower to have. Can I edit replies that I don't like? 

 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1.16  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @6.1.15    3 weeks ago

You can edit your own within a window of time

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.17  Tacos!  replied to  epistte @6.1.12    3 weeks ago

I haven't tried to defend anyone I think is a racist. I will not continue to debate someone who refuses to respond to what I actually write and instead engages in absurd personal attacks.

 
 
epistte
6.1.18  epistte  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.16    3 weeks ago
You can edit your own within a window of time

I often do that when I catch a typo within the time allotted.

 
 
epistte
6.1.19  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.17    3 weeks ago
I haven't tried to defend anyone I think is a racist. I will not continue to debate someone who refuses to respond to what I actually write and instead engages in absurd personal attacks.

This man is not a comedian or a satarist, so your attempt to spin it by comparing him to Mel Brook is a red herring. He is a low level political hack.  There is no reason to defend him if you don't somehow agree with his racist views. His own co-workers and his party has told him to step down so why are you still defending him?   If it was a tasteless joke gone bad his coworkers would  be the first to know that.

His racist views are well known,

But really, maybe Klemp wasn’t using this well-known Nazi language in a racist way. Maybe he was just—ah, wait. From the Star:

In December 2017, Klemp spent several minutes opining on a disjointed group of topics during a discussion about setting the holiday schedule, including historical figures he felt should be honored.

Not everybody does them all, because we have Robert E. Lee, who, God, Robert E. Lee, wonderful part of history,” Klemp said about the commander of the Confederate States Army. “We don’t have Washington anymore. He may be removed anyway because he had slaves.”

Klemp also spoke about how his great-great grandfather owned a slave, questioned why those who are not veterans get off for Veterans Day, asked whether global personality Oprah Winfrey would be given a federal holiday and said President Abraham Lincoln’s legacy would not be fully realized because the Confederacy had lost.
 
 
nightwalker
6.1.20  nightwalker  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.7    one week ago

Not discussing any of his other rather strange uninformed ramblings, the sin he committed that is so terrible is using the term "master race," one of the terms the GOP is desperate to avoid association with, even when they seem to be following the same "master race" plans.

Somehow it has become "bad" to use the OTHER "N" word, (Nazi) in conversation, especially if you draw parallels between them and GOP tactics now. Anyway...

Back at the ranch, this guy said "we", not "I," and should have said something like "you know, those of us with gaps in our teeth are supposed to be a little smarter than average." Maybe, but at one time the gap in your teeth could mean you were touched by evil and get you killed or raised in a church too.

He was trying to be glib, lovable and humorous, but politicians seem to have lost the art.

It's a hard act when you don't really give a shit. 

 
 
Tacos!
6.1.21  Tacos!  replied to  nightwalker @6.1.20    one week ago
He was trying to be glib, lovable and humorous, but politicians seem to have lost the art.

Yeah, they're not all disarming and clever. Especially at the local level. Nevertheless, I feel a lot like we, as a people, have lost much of our sense of humor. We used to be not nearly so threatened by these things.

Or maybe people aren't threatened at all, but like to tell themselves they are under assault by hate speech because they imagine it gives them the elite social status "enjoyed" by actual victims of discrimination.

I think you can observe that something is intended as a harmless, even well-intentioned joke. That doesn't make it an exceedingly funny joke by any means. Nor does it necessarily need to be in language we might condone. But it's still a joke and not a racist attack.

 
 
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